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DeBaliviere wrote:Laclede Street Bar and Grill and the old Billiken Bench Club are slated for demo as well - a developer has bought both properties and is planning a new development on the site. BBC is pretty non-descript, but Laclede St. is a very cool building.

Is Laclede Street the old Caleco's?

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:Laclede Street Bar and Grill and the old Billiken Bench Club are slated for demo as well - a developer has bought both properties and is planning a new development on the site. BBC is pretty non-descript, but Laclede St. is a very cool building.

Is Laclede Street the old Caleco's?

Yep. It will always be Caleco's to me.

DeBaliviere wrote:

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:Laclede Street Bar and Grill and the old Billiken Bench Club are slated for demo as well - a developer has bought both properties and is planning a new development on the site. BBC is pretty non-descript, but Laclede St. is a very cool building.

Is Laclede Street the old Caleco's?

Yep. It will always be Caleco's to me.

Not for much longer.



I've always figured anything between the main campus and Forest Park Parkway is living on borrowed time. Either being torn down or folded into the campus. Heck: I get the feeling that Biondi has his eyes on everything within the Compton, Lindell, Vandevender (sp?), Hwy 40 boundary.

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dweebe wrote:I wonder for how long will I be receiving mailers from SLU begging for money for the new arena?

If you are an alumni, they will beg for money the rest of your life.

dweebe wrote:
What next: a football stadium?

No.

Why not a football stadium...i've always wondered why they have no football team...What University doesn't have a football team! I am no SLU alum, but i'd love to see the enrollment increase or even double...and for SLU to add a football program

We were actually discussing our lack of football team over at billikens.com. Many similar schools have non-scholarship Division I-AA teams, and I wish that we did too. Marquette has a club team, and I'd be totally happy with that as well.

dweebe wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

Is Laclede Street the old Caleco's?

Yep. It will always be Caleco's to me.

Not for much longer.



I've always figured anything between the main campus and Forest Park Parkway is living on borrowed time. Either being torn down or folded into the campus. Heck: I get the feeling that Biondi has his eyes on everything within the Compton, Lindell, Vandevender (sp?), Hwy 40 boundary.

I suspect he owns a lot of it already.

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:We were actually discussing our lack of football team over at billikens.com. Many similar schools have non-scholarship Division I-AA teams, and I wish that we did too. Marquette has a club team, and I'd be totally happy with that as well.

It takes a hell of a lot of dough to start a football team. I just don't see it on the SLU radar.

Actually, it's not as bad as you might think, at least when done on a smaller scale. There was an article in the NY Times last month about colleges that are bringing back their football programs in an effort to attract more male students. Most are able to cover the startup costs through alumni donations, which I thought was surprising.

DeBaliviere wrote:

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:We were actually discussing our lack of football team over at billikens.com. Many similar schools have non-scholarship Division I-AA teams, and I wish that we did too. Marquette has a club team, and I'd be totally happy with that as well.

It takes a hell of a lot of dough to start a football team. I just don't see it on the SLU radar.

Actually, it's not as bad as you might think, at least when done on a smaller scale. There was an article in the NY Times last month about colleges that are bringing back their football programs in an effort to attract more male students. Most are able to cover the startup costs through alumni donations, which I thought was surprising.

OK.



Next question - where do they play?

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OK.



Next question - where do they play?

Uh...I'll get back to you on that one.

Edward Jones Dome until they can build a field.... Its not ideal, but not much different than SLU playing at Saavis... and it would be one day a week (saturday) 5 times a year.... not to hard to schedule...

I'd be more in favor of using Hermann Stadium on campus than the dome.

DeBaliviere wrote:I'd be more in favor of using Hermann Stadium on campus than the dome.

But I doubt Coach Donigan would go for that.

DeBaliviere wrote:

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:We were actually discussing our lack of football team over at billikens.com. Many similar schools have non-scholarship Division I-AA teams, and I wish that we did too. Marquette has a club team, and I'd be totally happy with that as well.

It takes a hell of a lot of dough to start a football team. I just don't see it on the SLU radar.

Actually, it's not as bad as you might think, at least when done on a smaller scale. There was an article in the NY Times last month about colleges that are bringing back their football programs in an effort to attract more male students. Most are able to cover the startup costs through alumni donations, which I thought was surprising.

It's not just a question of funding, but how the funding is disbursed -- Title IX, you know. Football programs, from what I understand, cost significantly more than other sports because the teams have larger rosters, equipment is more expensive, and so forth. To create male/female parity, that means some of the smaller men's programs are dropped -- like gymnastics, baseball, and so forth. I realize they may not be as high profile as football, but I like schools that support these other sports.

I think title IX is meant to provide equal #'s (male/female), not equal $'s. Either way, football's a tough thing to balance out. Does it apply to private schools anyway?



Major college football in St. Louis would be great! I think you need a new stadium + a couple practice fields etc. Not cheap. But hasn't Biondi stated that he wants SLU to be more like Boston U??? Maybe football's on his mind . . .

I know at Mizzou - football and basketball are the only two programs that break even, and basketball barely brakes even with their new arena. I heard football profits over $1 million per home game and well over $3 million on days with a national audiance (Nebraska/Texas type opponits) - which more than funds the budget for nearly every other sporting program at Mizzou.



In that sense - if SLU could get some big name teams, (Notre Dame being an Independant and another Catholic institution might be a possibility) SLUs Football program could not break even, but eventually pay for the other sporting programs at SLU. Not to mention be good for STL with hotel nights and tailgaters etc.

tbspqr wrote:In that sense - if SLU could get some big name teams, (Notre Dame being an Independant and another Catholic institution might be a possibility) SLUs Football program could not break even, but eventually pay for the other sporting programs at SLU. Not to mention be good for STL with hotel nights and tailgaters etc.

The odds of SLU starting a football program and getting a coveted slot on Notre Dame's schedule any time in the next 20 years are exactly ZERO.

Right. The chances of us ever playing big-time football are slim and none. ND and BC are the only Catholic schools that field Division I-A programs, and there are way too many barriers to entry for us.



Now a club team or a non-scholarship I-AA team, that's a totally different story. I don't sense any interest on the part of the administration though, but perhaps if Xavier and a few of our other Jesuit counterparts are successful in bringing football back, that might change things.

ya maybe if Xavier, marquette, depaul, and slu etc. were all interested they could form their own league...and it could grow from there

Totally. Marquette has a club team right now (www.marquetteclubfootball.com), and Xavier is looking into starting one. If SLU and say, Loyola, DePaul, Detroit Mercy and Creighton were to jump into the fray, we could have a nice little league.

I'd be in support of that.

Alright, Matt - start circulating a petition on campus.

I'll talk to the President of blue Crew on Monday at the ground breaking and see if we can get anything going. And the President of Legion 1818, the new soccer cheering group is in urban affairs as well. What am i talking about, we already have a great football team.

^...YES!!! I might have started something here...RUN with it... get a small time program started now...and maybe 10,20,50 yrs down the road we have a div. 1 team playing in midtown.. Picture it now...50,000 plus seat football stadium in midtown....(oh if i ruled the world for one day...)