I swear that Centene is as bad as my fiance when she goes shoe shopping.
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The SLBJ has an article with more info on the negotiations with Clayton:
<a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... l">Centene resumes negotiations with Clayton officials</a>.
<a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... l">Centene resumes negotiations with Clayton officials</a>.
Barry Pessin, a private developer, has the three buildings on Forsyth Boulevard under contract and is poised to transfer the properties to Centene.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
Highlights:
- Centene's plan is to redevelop the one-half block area bounded by Hanley Road, Forsyth Boulevard and Carondelet Avenue, expanding its current world headquarters.
- The office and retail project is expected to be strikingly similar to — but smaller than — the $210 million development the company proposed there in 2005.
- Initial construction of 560,000 square feet of office and 30,000 square feet of retail space.
- Environmentally sound certification of the building for "green" purposes.
- Clayton has not approved any financial incentives, Goldstein said, but is considering partial tax abatement on real and personal property and sales tax exemption on construction materials.
Nothing much of a surprise here, but it is unfortunate to hear the headquarters will be smaller than originally planned.
Highlights:
- Centene's plan is to redevelop the one-half block area bounded by Hanley Road, Forsyth Boulevard and Carondelet Avenue, expanding its current world headquarters.
- The office and retail project is expected to be strikingly similar to — but smaller than — the $210 million development the company proposed there in 2005.
- Initial construction of 560,000 square feet of office and 30,000 square feet of retail space.
- Environmentally sound certification of the building for "green" purposes.
- Clayton has not approved any financial incentives, Goldstein said, but is considering partial tax abatement on real and personal property and sales tax exemption on construction materials.
Nothing much of a surprise here, but it is unfortunate to hear the headquarters will be smaller than originally planned.
^Yeah, but still, 560,000 sq. ft. is a pretty good sized building. I'd guess one of the largest in Clayton. They're supposed to present the plans tonight; hopefully we'll see a rendering soon.
A half million sq. ft. is no doubt sizable. Broken into two separate buildings, as the renderings will show, is just a downgrade from the downtown proposal. This isn’t criticism though – I’m happy this is moving forward.
Yeah, I'm unsure as to whether they are talking about one building or two initially, since Centene said they want to build 560,000 SF first and then gauge their needs and the market and build more later. I'm not sure they have enough space for three buildings, but that depends...
I'm confused too. I thought they were talking about one large tower in the first phase.
I guess none of us went to the presentation Wednesday.
I guess none of us went to the presentation Wednesday.
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Someone, take pictures:
Source: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocumentCentene will unveil Clayton HQ plans
By Margaret Gillerman
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
05/13/2008
Centene Corporation officials will unveil plans tonight for building an expanded corporate campus in the heart of the Clayton business district in the one-half block area bounded by Hanley Road, Forsyth Boulevard and Carondelet Avenue.
The city will hold a public forum at The Center of Clayton, from 5:30 - 7 p.m. to review the proposal by Centene to redevelop the mixed use headquarters campus, which also will include shops and restaurants.
Afterward, the Board of Aldermen will hold its regular meeting, where aldermen are expected to adopt a resolution to move the project forward. It would arrange for documents to be provided, at Centene's cost, for further review before the city considers final approval.
Centene won approval from Clayton of a $210 million project in 2005 but it was never built. That proposal was derailed in a court challenge by some property owners to the city's use of eminent domain to take their land. Those owners have since sold the parcels to a third party, which eliminated the obstacle.
The health care management company decided last year to become part of the Ballpark Village development beside Busch Stadium in downtown St. Louis , but that plan fell through in March.
Centene is seeking financial incentives from the city, state and county, which may get some discussion at tonight's meeting.
It looks like I incorrectly assumed that the 560,00 sq. ft. would be split between the two buildings, but it seems that will in fact be the size of the first, 24 floor building. The second building is part of phase two and is planned to be 14 floors.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument
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Sounds good except for the "large public plaza" 
Wish the PD would have posted a new rendering in the article.
Wish the PD would have posted a new rendering in the article.
The PD has a new rendering of the new headquaters in the print edition today. If someone has the capability of being able to scan and show on here that would be great.Moorlander wrote:Sounds good except for the "large public plaza"
Wish the PD would have posted a new rendering in the article.
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definately an improvement from earlier designs. But it still leaves much to be desired.
I wish they'd switch the buildings, so the taller one is at the high point of the site. That would make a bigger impact on the skyline.
I don't see this design to be an improvement in any way whatsoever, quite the opposite in fact.
^Well, I guess Centene hopes to lure more high-powered executives: "Corner offices for everyone!"
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Framer wrote:I wish they'd switch the buildings, so the taller one is at the high point of the site. That would make a bigger impact on the skyline.
They did switch them...
New
Old
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^ I don't know about that. I don't think glass enclosed boxes have an architecturally specific era when it comes to office buildings. An improvement, surely, although I deffinitely hoped for more. I'm glad they placed the larger tower on the corner. Guess that's it.
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Gonna go BACK in time!
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those zig-zagging layered corners do look very 1978.
those zig-zagging layered corners do look very 1978.