urbanSTL

The police are above the law. They know the truth will come to light, they just don't care, which is why they drive like a**holes and then half-ass the cover up when something goes wrong. People will complain about it on social media for a week, maybe a local news network will air a segment on TV, perhaps there will even be a press conference from the Chief and/or the Mayor, and then it will go away without consequence.

Tough couple of days

StlToday - School bus overturns in hit-and-run crash on I-44 in St. Louis, driver arrested


https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 0208a.html

StlToday - Man dies after driving car off road in Manchester


https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 7f7b3.html

StlToday - Troy, Mo., motorcyclist killed in crash in St. Charles County


https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... d745f.html

StlToday - 2 dead after car crashes into vehicles, pedestrians in St. Louis' Downtown West neighborhood


https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 13e61.html

StlToday - Woman dies after being struck by two cars in St. Louis' Academy neighborhood


https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... eff77.html

And there was a bad accident last night Downtown after the Drake concert.

Makes you wonder how somebody was that fast and out of control in a spot where it's mostly just one lane in each direction, in addition to all the vehicle and pedestrian traffic.

https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/02/14/ ... ouis-city/

It’s baffling. And not an irregular occurrence downtown.

The victims were were a mother and daughter from Chicago.

So frustrating that anyone who has been downtown at night lately could have foreseen this.

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

It’s baffling. And not an irregular occurrence downtown.

people getting killed by cars in downtown is a very irregular occurrence, my source is me walking 15,000 miles in and around downtown since 2020 and data that shows the last one almost 2 years ago (March 8 2022)

dbInSouthCity wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

It’s baffling. And not an irregular occurrence downtown.

people getting killed by cars in downtown is a very irregular occurrence, my source is me walking 15,000 miles in and around downtown since 2020 and data that shows the last one almost 2 years ago (March 8 2022)

I was referring to people driving incredibly recklessly downtown. I walk and drive downtown 5-6 days a week and it happens all the time.

We are lucky people aren’t killed more often. If we ever get to a point where we have any meaningful pedestrian traffic downtown, it will be more of a problem.

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

dbInSouthCity wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

It’s baffling. And not an irregular occurrence downtown.

people getting killed by cars in downtown is a very irregular occurrence, my source is me walking 15,000 miles in and around downtown since 2020 and data that shows the last one almost 2 years ago (March 8 2022)

I was referring to people driving incredibly recklessly downtown. I walk and drive downtown 5-6 days a week and it happens all the time.

We are lucky people aren’t killed more often. If we ever get to a point where we have any meaningful pedestrian traffic downtown, it will be more of a problem.

There were over 30,000,000 pedestrians in downtown last year and not a single one was killed by a car.

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

dbInSouthCity wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

It’s baffling. And not an irregular occurrence downtown.

people getting killed by cars in downtown is a very irregular occurrence, my source is me walking 15,000 miles in and around downtown since 2020 and data that shows the last one almost 2 years ago (March 8 2022)

I was referring to people driving incredibly recklessly downtown. I walk and drive downtown  5-6 days a week and it happens all the time.

We are lucky people aren’t killed more often. If we ever get to a point where we have any meaningful pedestrian traffic downtown, it will be more of a problem.

This is not a uniquely downtown problem (nor is it markedly worse downtown than other areas), it's nationwide

_nomad_ wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2024

dbInSouthCity wrote: people getting killed by cars in downtown is a very irregular occurrence, my source is me walking 15,000 miles in and around downtown since 2020 and data that shows the last one almost 2 years ago (March 8 2022)

I was referring to people driving incredibly recklessly downtown. I walk and drive downtown  5-6 days a week and it happens all the time.

We are lucky people aren’t killed more often. If we ever get to a point where we have any meaningful pedestrian traffic downtown, it will be more of a problem.

This is not a uniquely downtown problem (nor is it markedly worse downtown than other areas), it's nationwide

That doesn’t make it any less of a problem for our Downtown. And I do think our DT has more reckless drivers than most areas of our region.

Another police crash with zero accountability: https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/02/15/once-thought-be-work-vandals-pastor-says-photos-show-church-sign-damaged-by-slmpd-cruiser/?tbref=hp. 

Not good.

StlToday - Fourth pedestrian killed this month in St. Louis County


https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 0b28e.html

Very hard to watch. Sorry if this was already posted.

Video of Laticha Bracero and Alyssa Cordova being hit by a reckless driver downtown.

https://x.com/max_fightzz/status/176199 ... KjVjNb_Kng

Jesus. I wish I hadn’t seen that.

HOW fast was that vehicle going?  That is just ridiculous.  I realize this isn't unique here, but what is the solution?

70 mph.
Speed governors

 drivers are now even more distracted by their phones. Pedestrian deaths are soaring.
https://urbanstl.com/car-crash-thread-t11931-s925.html#p384730

Sheesh

RFT - Maserati Driver Who Killed St. Louis Man Gets 120-Day Sentence


https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/ma ... e-42042262

"At the end of those 120 days, the Missouri Department of Corrections will make a recommendation to the court in St. Louis if Mahdi Gayar should serve a full four-year sentence."

So, MDC gets to decide? If the driver behaves in prison, what are the chances he gets out with probation after 4 months?

StlToday - Driver in Janae Edmondson crash should serve up to nearly 19 years in prison, jury says

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 1c715.html

StlToday - Janae Edmondson fought for her life after crash. ‘Don’t close my eyes. Stay awake.’

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... b4cce.html

StlToday - St. Louis man admits to causing crash that killed a 'one-of-a-kind' husband, father

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... e5373.html

StlToday - Wellston man charged with killing 72-year-old man in hit-and-run

Police later found a sock belonging to the victim underneath the SUV's front bumper.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 26a41.html

This thread is getting increasingly morbid. 

^ morbid is the reality of US car culture, and people need to see it.