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PostFeb 16, 2006#1

Cahokia Mounds to expand

By Jim Suhr

Associated Press

Thursday, Feb. 16 2006



COLLINSVILLE, Ill. (AP) -- For years, Cahokia Mounds' administrators longed

to snatch up more property near the ruins of the prehistoric city but lacked

the money to do it, fearing all the while that artifacts on the coveted private

land could be forever lost to development.



Their concerns eased a bit Thursday, when the state finally released funds

-- $837,800 -- earmarked years ago for expanding the Cahokia Mounds State

Historic Site, now spanning 2,200 acres of the 4,000 that comprised the

once-thriving city of up to 20,000 American Indians.



"We're so proud of Cahokia," Bob Coomer, the Illinois Historic Preservation

Agency's director, said during a news conference at the historic site just west

of this St. Louis suburb. Land-acquistion "funds have been extremely difficult

to come by; we feel very fortunate to get these funds at this time."



Officials declined to specify how many of the 1,800 acres the state looks to

buy or where those parcels are, insisting that revealing such details could

prompt landowners to inflate their selling prices. Coomer said officials have

targeted for possible purchase three or four "primary points that have a

significant relationship to the site," with negotiations to begin "as soon as

possible."



Mark Esarey, the site's manager, said the state funds -- earmarked in 2000

but held until now as the state wrestled with budgetary issues -- represent the

largest amount of money for Cahokia Mounds land acquisition in about 15 years.

"It's a big deal," he said.



Believed to have been inhabited from 700 to 1400 A.D., Cahokia was among the

most complex, sophisticated societies of prehistoric North America. Its

enduring collection of mounds served as ceremonial sites, residences and tombs

for Cahokia's leaders and servants. Evidence retrieved from burial mounds and

other sites suggest a hierarchical political structure, a specialized economy

and significant scientific knowledge.



The prehistoric city originally had 120 mounds, and the locations of 109

have been recorded. The state historic site includes about 70 of the mounds,

ranging in height from about five to 100 feet. Many others have been altered or

destroyed by modern farming and urban sprawl; in 2000, one such mound was

plowed under to make way for a new subdivision near Edwardsville.



At its peak around 1100 to 1200, researchers say, the city covered nearly

six square miles and had as many as 20,000 inhabitants. The site was abandoned

by 1400 and remained uninhabited until Illini Indians moved into the area

around 1650.



Its tallest existing landmark, the 100-foot-tall Monks Mound, is made up of

22 million cubic feet of dirt. It is the largest pre-Columbian structure north

of Mexico and the largest all-earthen pyramid in the New World. The site also

includes an unearthed wooden sun calendar similar to Stonehenge.



Cahokia was designated a World Heritage Site by a United Nations agency in

1982, joining the likes of the Great Wall of China, Egypt's pyramids, the Taj

Mahal, Grand Canyon and the Statue of Liberty.



Over the years, the mounds' caretakers have implored police to stop

interlopers who have torn down fences and run over the remote mounds.



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On the Net:



Cahokia Mounds, http://www.cahokiamounds.com



Illinois Historic Preservation Agency, http://www.state.il.us/HPA

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Considering the real estate market of State Park - that money should go pretty far.  I'm happy as hell to see that they were finally able to get it.  Hopefully, they can finish Woodhenge now that they have the money to buy the tiny strip of land necessary to do so.

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PostFeb 16, 2006#2

i always thought it was a crime the way that site was treated. Its a majot historical ruin ... and the St. Louis area seems totally oblivious.

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PostFeb 16, 2006#3

markofucity wrote:i always thought it was a crime the way that site was treated. Its a majot historical ruin ... and the St. Louis area seems totally oblivious.
It's surroundings don't really help. State Park to the east. Fairmont City and East St. Louis to the west. What's sad is the fact that it is between two interstate exits and it's close proximity to downtown - you can't say that it is hard to get to.

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PostFeb 16, 2006#4

I'm glad for this.



My then new bride and I visited there about 12 years ago and we were impressed with the then new visitor's center and disappointed with the trailer parks, shuttered gas stations and quonset huts near it.



Hopefully, this will go to clean up and beautify the surrounding area. And it would nice if more was made of out the disignation?flags, additional signage on the highway, something.

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PostFeb 16, 2006#5

Right, this treasure should be treated like a treasure.

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PostFeb 17, 2006#6

I bet Becky's Carpet and Tile Superstore is on a former mound.



It seems, alll over the metro east, they have been discovering artifacts as construction occurs in and around the area. A lot of artifacts were discovered before the building of MidAmerica Airport, which now features them in a glass case in the terminal building. Some were found in Shiloh, O'Fallon, and up in Edwardsville, as the article states.

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PostFeb 17, 2006#7

St. Louis isn't known as 'Mound City' for nothing. Then again, after bulldozing them all, maybe it is.

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PostFeb 17, 2006#8

Xing wrote:I bet Becky's Carpet and Tile Superstore is on a former mound.
I'm fairly certain that the warehouse (the old Grandpa's) just east of the maintenance building is on the site of a former mound - from what I heard it was quite big at one time.



There is a conical mound on the bluff just south of Sugarloaf Road (in northen Collinsville). It's very easy to see in the winter time when you are already on top of the bluff.

PostFeb 17, 2006#9

Cahokia Mounds gets funds to expand

By Doug Moore

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

Thursday, Feb. 16 2006



COLLINSVILLE



Over the last 80 years, Illinois has gradually reclaimed more than half of the

4,000 acres that made up the American Indian civilization of Cahokia, once the

largest community in what is now the United States.



The area on the western edge of Collinsville is now referred to as Cahokia

Mounds State Historic Site, and efforts are under way to buy more of the land

that was the center of Mississippian Indian culture for 300 years before the

town mysteriously vanished.



Six years ago, the state appropriated $837,800 for Cahokia Mounds to buy more

land. On Thursday, the funds were finally released.




Robert Coomer, director of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency, which

manages the site, said the money would be spent as quickly as possible so that

it does not get frozen in next year's budget. It won't be nearly enough to

purchase all 1,800 acres, but it's a good chunk of money to head in that

direction, he said.



Coomer said the state has its eye on "three or four" pieces of land abutting

Cahokia Mounds. But exactly how much land the state funds would buy will not be

determined until negotiations get under way with landowners, he said.



Developed property would probably cost more than farmland. Eminent domain, a

tool used to take property when an agreement cannot be reached, would not be

used, Coomer said.



"There is enough land out there to acquire if someone is not willing to sell,"

Coomer said.



Pam McCanless, who owns Johnson's Floor Covering just east of Cahokia Mounds,

listened closely to Coomer's announcement, made inside the site's interpretive

center.



For 30 years, the floor covering company has grown its business on its site on

Collinsville Road, McCanless said, and now has a 10,000-square-foot warehouse.

She anticipates that her property is in the targeted area, but no offers have

come her way yet.



"I'm game," McCanless said. Still, the unknown makes her anxious.



Cahokia Mounds sits in Collinsville, but most of the land surrounding the

historic site lies in unincorporated areas. To the east is the State Park Place

area, a mix of businesses, mobile home parks and modest single-family homes

tucked between Cahokia Mounds and Fairmount Park horse racing track. To the

west is Fairmont City. Caseyville sits to the south, and property to the north

and across Interstate 55-70 is near Pontoon Beach.



Historians have recognized Cahokia Mounds as one of the most significant sites

in the world.



Named a World Heritage Site by the United Nations 23 years ago, Cahokia Mounds

shares that designation with the Great Wall of China, the pyramids of Egypt,

the Taj Mahal, the Grand Canyon and the Statue of Liberty.



Historians say there were more than 120 mounds, but only 109 locations have

been recorded. Many were altered or destroyed by farming or modern development

including housing subdivisions. About 70 mounds are preserved within the

historic site boundaries.



The Cahokians, a sub-tribe of the Illinois Indians, built mounds for various

uses. Flat-topped mounds were used as a base for ceremonial buildings or to

elevate homes of the elite. Other mounds were used for burials of important

people or to mark important locations. Most Cahokians, however, were probably

buried in cemeteries, not mounds.



The centerpiece of the historic site is Monks Mound, 100 feet high, the largest

prehistoric structure north of Mexico. The city's ruler lived in a house atop

the mound, which today provides impressive views of the St. Louis skyline and

is a popular place for exercisers to climb.



William Iseminger, public relations director for Cahokia Mounds, said acquiring

as much of the land as possible can perhaps help solve the mystery of what

happened to the area that once had as many as 30,000 people living on six

square miles around 1200 A.D. But 200 years later, the city was abandoned. No

evidence of an epidemic disease or catastrophic war has been found.



"Their trash is our treasure and can tell us all we need to know about them,"

Iseminger said.





Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site



It is in Collinsville, not Cahokia. The city of Cahokia took the name before

the historic site was set up and named.



The prehistoric Cahokia held the title as largest city in what is now the U.S.

until 1800, when the population of Philadelphia grew to more than 30,000.



Monks Mound was named for the French Trappist monks who lived nearby in the

early 1800s.



To find out more about Cahokia Mounds, call 618-346-5160 or visit

www.cahokiamounds.com

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PostAug 21, 2007#10

Re-creation of Cahokia climbs another mound

By Doug Moore

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

08/21/2007



COLLINSVILLE — Underneath the shuttered Grandpa's store on Collinsville Road lies part of a civilization from 1,200 years ago.



Two mounds thought to be building platforms for political or religious leaders of the Mississippian Indians were destroyed by modern construction — a common occurrence in this area before the Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site began an aggressive effort 40 years ago to reclaim the land.



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument





This is good news. I've always been bummed out by all the lousy, shuttered development surrounding this.



How many of us would be willing to go out and tear down the old Grandpa's oursevles? I'd give up a couple of weekends.







BTW-how to you change the url to 'link' or 'read full story'?

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PostAug 21, 2007#11

I just read that, and thought it was great news. And yep, I'd go help out.



As for making links into words, most things in BBCode use the square brackets [][/] format. For links:

1. The first part to start the command is:

ex. [url=http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument]

2. After that, you put in the word(s) you want to represent the link

3. And then close the command with




The full thing:

Link

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Read Full Story

and just to add another example with a different url

Urban St. Louis Forums



So the main difference from the built in URL tag is adding the "=link]words" part instead of just putting the url between the opening and closing tags.



Just for anyone wondering, used the "Disable BBCode in this post" option below the box where you type your post so that the code shows up.

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PostAug 21, 2007#12

Um, since when is grandpa's shuttered? It was turned into Value City and I don't think that's closed.

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PostAug 22, 2007#13

^ Looks pretty shuttered in the P-D story photo.



This is great news - why this isn't a National Park I have no idea. It's under-promoted, under-visited and under-appreciated.

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PostAug 22, 2007#14

I love Cahokia Mounds, and I would love to see it really developed into what it should be. They've already got a really nice museum; I highly recommend the orientation movie. At the end, it morphs into a life-like "you are there" transition, which really sets the mood for further exploration.



BTW, the TV series "Highlander" once featured a character that came from Cahokia. Pretty cool episode (yep, I'm a dork).

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Grover wrote:^ Looks pretty shuttered in the P-D story photo.



This is great news - why this isn't a National Park I have no idea. It's under-promoted, under-visited and under-appreciated.


Great point Grover. Why isn't this a national park? Or at least a national monument or national historic site or something? The leftover houses of the Navajo in the cliffs is a national something or other in Arizona. That would give this place the kind of funding it deserves and I am sure Illinois would not mind handing it over for a relatively small price. That is a great, great question, seems like one Shimkus should answer. The only National Park run thing I can think of in Illinois is the Lincoln Home in Springfield. I think that is NPS. Are there any others? The Shawnee Forest I don't think is NPS. Illinois deserves another one. This thing should be a National Park.

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PostAug 22, 2007#16

Shimmy wrote:Um, since when is grandpa's shuttered? It was turned into Value City and I don't think that's closed.
This is the original Grandpa's store that is just east of the maintenance building on the north side of the road. It has been used as a warehouse off and on for years.



I heard about this a few weeks ago and was eagerly anticipating an announcement.

PostOct 23, 2007#17

The small parcel of land is being acquired to finally complete Woodhenge. I would think it will be finished by next spring.



And it looks like they have finally begun some demo work on the old Grandpa's store that was acquired this summer.

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PostJan 26, 2008#18

Restoring, revamping Cahokia Mounds



http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/ar ... ds.ii1.txt



By Elizabeth A. Lehnerer

Friday, January 25, 2008 8:57 AM CST





Each year, Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site attracts tourists from throughout the country and around the world who are interested in learning of the Cahokia Native Americans who worked, lived and thrived on the site starting around 650 A.D.



The problem is, residents in the Metro East tend to think that if they've been to Cahokia Mounds once, they've been there a dozen times.



A group of engineers, archeologists, designers, public relations professionals and local residents are looking to change that.Over the last year Woolpert Inc., an engineering firm out of St. Louis has been working with different groups to develop a master management plan for the site. On Tuesday, the firm held an open house to show those interested their first draft of ideas for the site.



The plan, which Woolpert engineers hope to have finalized by the end of February, includes short-, mid- and long-term plans. The concepts range from new signage and more advertising to a new exhibition wing at the Cahokia Mounds visitors center, 30 Ramey Drive in Collinsville, and expanding the gift shop to include food and beverage service.



"A master management plan was created in 1980 and the people here were able to accomplish a lot of the goals, but there's still work that needs to be done," said Scott Emmelkamp with Woolpert. "This building hasn't been updated at all since then and its boiler system is past its life."



With Cahokia Mounds being one of only 20 World Heritage Sites in the county, Emmelkamp said its easy to get people from across the country to come here.



"But people from St. Louis don't come to see it," he said.



So, enticing area residents back to the site is also a main goal of the plan.



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PostJan 28, 2008#19

As I said in a different thread - Woodhenge will be finished by the summer. The final portion has already been fenced off. They just need to tear down the old fence, set the poles and put new ground cover in place.



They have torn down the two small structures at the old Grandpa's location, but the main warehouse still remains. One or two other places nearby are for sale as well - hopefully the park buys them.



An additional wing for traveling exhibits is a great idea.

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PostJan 28, 2008#20

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An additional wing for traveling exhibits is a great idea.


I totally agree. They could make the site into a regional location for Native American history by adding a few improvements.



I have been to the Eiteljorg in Indy and it is a really great museum, but imagine if that museum was actually surrounded by another, living museum. The Eiteljorg serves traditional Native American cuisine in their lovely restaurant (I think I had a Bison soup or something last time I was there). It benefits by being in downtown Indy and getting business clients for lunch, since they also have exhibit and meeting space. But, why can't we do something similar at Cakohia? I realize it might be a few years away, but it seems like it would be a cool place to hold wedding receptions and stuff like that.



One thing that the Eiteljorg did that seems like it would be relatively easy is to create a garden with native plants and native themed artwork. It is a small garden, but it is a place to spend 15 min. and another thing to see and do while there.

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PostFeb 20, 2008#21

B.A. wrote:As I said in a different thread - Woodhenge will be finished by the summer. The final portion has already been fenced off. They just need to tear down the old fence, set the poles and put new ground cover in place.
The old fence and most of the brush is gone. The only thing left standing are a handful of fully-developed trees, but I think a few of them are going to have to come down since they are in the way of completing the 'henge.

PostJun 04, 2008#22

They finally hauled in some dirt and fixed the grade of the Woodhenge addition.



They might finish it by the fall at this rate.

PostJun 18, 2008#23

They planted a few rows of spruce (?) trees around the fence-line last week and it looks like they seeded for grass yesterday.



A complete Woodhenge may see the light of day sooner than I thought.



This may attract five or six more people to the park a month.

PostAug 24, 2008#24

Mounds supporters hope for a takeover

Budget crisis prompts talks about site




By Chris Coates

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:09 PM CDT





Timothy R. Pauketat, a University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign archaeology professor, has spent close to 25 years poking around the earth near Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site in Collinsville looking for relics of the centuries-old village that once dominated the site.But with a state budget crisis, massive cost concerns and reduced staffing, Pauketat and others who support the ancient ruins are asking why state leaders don't hand Cahokia Mounds over to a new, better-funded owner: the federal government.



"Given the recent efforts with state economy and the cuts, yes, I think that would be a good idea," Pauketat said.



Pauketat is part of a simmering effort to urge cash-strapped Illinois to shift ownership of Cahokia Mounds to the National Parks Service, the federal agency that runs 391 sites, including the Grand Canyon, Alcatraz Island and the Gateway Arch.



Pauketat and other archaeologists have written letters to state and federal officials urging an agreement. They say the federal government is far better funded to take care of the 2,200-acre property, home to the world's largest prehistoric earthworks and the centerpiece of a village that once housed 10,000 people.



The suggestion was prompted, Pauketat said, by continued haggling over the unbalanced state budget and worries that further cuts will harm what's left of the Mounds.



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PostAug 26, 2008#25

I pray the federal government takes this over.



This is one reason to elect Obama because as President he has the power to declare Cahokia Mounds a National Monument without an Act of Congress. Obviously, McCain could do the same but for several reasons, he would be far less likely than Obama to do so.

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