Bellevegas wrote:..more likely the MacArthur bridge
My bad. You're right.
My bad. You're right.
SMSPlanstu wrote:What does it qualify for to recieve federal funds?
Brownfield?
Environmental somthing?
CDBG?
Funds for which it could qualify off the top of my head are the newly passed land assemblage in distressed areas tax credit, brownfield, possibly wetlands restoration money. Aldermen can use CDBG money for pretty much anything that they feel would benefit their wards (the way I understand it), so 6th ward might be able to contribute, what other wards are we dealing with, 5th? Other ideas for funding sources/wards involved?
All I know is that the rendering is a little exciting. That's why it's my favorite project. Such potential.
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That rendering seems to lack all of the development along the northern side of the lake that MB included in their previous renderings. I know all of the development was hypothetical anyway - but still.
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What will happen first?
A. Bottle District is built.
B. Chouteau Lake/Greenway is completed.
C. St. Louis City Fire Chief gets his head out of his ***.
A. Bottle District is built.
B. Chouteau Lake/Greenway is completed.
C. St. Louis City Fire Chief gets his head out of his ***.
is there a current link to a rendering etc? i started flipping through the old posts but they seem to be obsolete.
Tuesday, October 9, 2007 - 2:03 PM CDT
Bond pledges support of funding for Chouteau Lake
St. Louis Business Journal - by Lisa R. Brown
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... rround=lfn
Bond pledges support of funding for Chouteau Lake
St. Louis Business Journal - by Lisa R. Brown
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... rround=lfn
Speaking to a group of St. Louis business leaders today, Sen. Kit Bond pledged his support for $10 million in federal funding for Chouteau Lake and the St. Louis Regional Greenway Project.
President George W. Bush has threatened to veto the Water Resources Development Act, which authorizes $10 million for the St. Louis Regional Greenways Project. The House passed the WRDA bill in August and the Senate passed it in late September.
Knowing that this bill is so important to our infrastructure and enviromment, I am surprised and disappointed at the veto threat," Bond said. "The good news is that we have more than enough votes to override the veto." The WRDA bill needs 67 votes in Congress to overcome a presidential veto. Bond said he has the support of 80 Congressional members to pass the bill.
Bond made the comments at a press conference at McCormack Baron Salazar's headquarters in downtown St. Louis. Developer Richard Baron, chief executive of McCormack Baron, has been a leading proponent of the project since the project began to take shape seven years ago. Other business leaders who spoke in favor of federal funding at the press conference were Cindy Brinkley, president of AT&T-Missouri; David Kemper, chairman of Commerce Bancshares Inc.; and Dick Fleming, president of the St. Louis Regional Chamber and Growth Association.
The proposed Chouteau Lake greenway covers nearly 200 acres and links the downtown riverfront to Forest Park with bike paths and landscaped areas. A 16-acre lake is planned south of the new Busch Stadium. Forty acres are planned for downtown, bordered by Union Pacific railroad tracks on the south, Highway 40 to the north, Seventh Street on the east and Tucker Boulevard on the west. Baron said he has about four fifths of the property in the development area under contract.
Bond said the project could spur as much as $15 billion in private investment in the form of office, residential and retail space, including the creation of as many as 10,000 new or rehabbed homes and 50,000 jobs. "We hope it will be a catalyst for private development in the adjacent areas," Bond said.
The proposed Chouteau Lake greenway project is a part of the Metropolitan Greenways Master Plan that includes several improvements to Missouri waterways. A funding bill making its way through Congress authorizes $10 million in federal funds for those projects, a portion of which will go toward the Chouteau Lake project
tbspqr wrote:Tuesday, October 9, 2007 - 2:03 PM CDT
Bond pledges support of funding for Chouteau Lake
St. Louis Business Journal - by Lisa R. Brown
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... rround=lfn
Speaking to a group of St. Louis business leaders today, Sen. Kit Bond pledged his support for $10 million in federal funding for Chouteau Lake and the St. Louis Regional Greenway Project.
President George W. Bush has threatened to veto the Water Resources Development Act, which authorizes $10 million for the St. Louis Regional Greenways Project. The House passed the WRDA bill in August and the Senate passed it in late September.
Knowing that this bill is so important to our infrastructure and enviromment, I am surprised and disappointed at the veto threat," Bond said. "The good news is that we have more than enough votes to override the veto." The WRDA bill needs 67 votes in Congress to overcome a presidential veto. Bond said he has the support of 80 Congressional members to pass the bill.
Bond made the comments at a press conference at McCormack Baron Salazar's headquarters in downtown St. Louis. Developer Richard Baron, chief executive of McCormack Baron, has been a leading proponent of the project since the project began to take shape seven years ago. Other business leaders who spoke in favor of federal funding at the press conference were Cindy Brinkley, president of AT&T-Missouri; David Kemper, chairman of Commerce Bancshares Inc.; and d*ck Fleming, president of the St. Louis Regional Chamber and Growth Association.
The proposed Chouteau Lake greenway covers nearly 200 acres and links the downtown riverfront to Forest Park with bike paths and landscaped areas. A 16-acre lake is planned south of the new Busch Stadium. Forty acres are planned for downtown, bordered by Union Pacific railroad tracks on the south, Highway 40 to the north, Seventh Street on the east and Tucker Boulevard on the west. Baron said he has about four fifths of the property in the development area under contract.
Bond said the project could spur as much as $15 billion in private investment in the form of office, residential and retail space, including the creation of as many as 10,000 new or rehabbed homes and 50,000 jobs. "We hope it will be a catalyst for private development in the adjacent areas," Bond said.
The proposed Chouteau Lake greenway project is a part of the Metropolitan Greenways Master Plan that includes several improvements to Missouri waterways. A funding bill making its way through Congress authorizes $10 million in federal funds for those projects, a portion of which will go toward the Chouteau Lake project
I really hope this Chouteau Lake greenway gets off the ground, because this has the potential to be a region changing project. What a lot of people in STL don't understand is that big projects like this is what redefines cities and makes a permanent impact, IT JUST TAKES TIME. A prime example is metrolink, people are so pessimistic about metro sometimes, but think about what metro has brought to the region and all the future development it will spark.
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Wow, Baron has 4/5ths under contract? Thats awesome, since land acquisition for a 40 acre tract like that can usually be pretty tough.
That fact alone immediately pushes this past The Bottle District in relevance.
That fact alone immediately pushes this past The Bottle District in relevance.
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great news - but - 10 million? I would suspect that the project would need a LOT more money than that
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^ That was my reaction too, but looking at the plans again the project is really a gigantic landscaping effort: a lake where there's a parking lot, a stream and bike path in what's basically a drainage ditch and possibly a park at the west end. The exisiting Greenway project has quite a budget already, another $10M to acquire land and help with the project could be enough to get off to a good start. The development $$ cited with the project are very misleading as much of it is assumed to come from private and other sources and be spent on adjacent development.
my understanding is there will be huge infrastructure costs involved in relocating the rr and the underground sewers that run the length of the old creek. $10m just keeps the planners planning the project alive as we await another gephardt who can bring home the bacon.
I don't think they are planning on relocating the largest, oldest, and most logically placed trunk sewer in the city. I think that a shallow lake coupled with raising the surrounding ground level with nice clean fill is the likely solution. Also, the 10 million is specific to waterways aspect of the project, other funds are available for portions like environmental cleanup and land assemblage. I think it is funny how Kit Bond is brushing off his buddy George's veto threat with such nonchalance. Lets get this thing done.
While I don't always agree with Bonds social politics, he is a beast at getting money for Missouri. And for that I give him great credit. He's a great advocate for this state in the Senate. I hope McCaskill follows his lead.
alphalfa wrote:my understanding is there will be huge infrastructure costs involved in relocating the rr and the underground sewers that run the length of the old creek. $10m just keeps the planners planning the project alive as we await another gephardt who can bring home the bacon.
I may be wrong, but I would assume that UP would pay for the RR relocation out of their own pocket. Also, I suspect that they wouldn't necessarily lay any more track elsewhere. With all the large railyards around the city they will probably be able to reroute these trains to existing track, not to mention the fact that the last few times I have been DT the yard was fairly empty anyhow.
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The last graf makes the first one a little squishy: "$10 million in federal funds for those projects, a portion of which will go toward the Chouteau Lake project."
The Wall Street Journal editorial page isn't one I'm very likely to heed, but it does make a pretty good case against this bill.
I'm not sure if a few mil towards the pond is worth advancing the Alaskan bridge to nowhere.
I'm not sure if a few mil towards the pond is worth advancing the Alaskan bridge to nowhere.