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PostMay 15, 2008#126

CSBA commercial district did not have any input on this bill!

How does prohibiting liquor prevent all the crime in the area?

Are all the offenders drunk when they are arrested?

From what I can tell the general consensus of neighborhoods DOES NOT supports the bill.

I know people that live one block off of Manchester, it is safe!

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PostMay 16, 2008#127

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How does prohibiting liquor prevent all the crime in the area?


Didn't you know that the amount of nightlife in an area is directly correlated to the amount of drug trafficking and assault? Patrons of these establishments routinely spread $50 a might on alcohol and then go down the street, buy drugs and beat the crap out of people. I'm being sarcastic of course.



Bill, I have to say that I don't think FPSE is a good example here. I have been visiting that neighborhood my entire life and to say that those bars have a negative effect on the neighborhood is totally off base. The neighborhood was bad long before these places came along. They are the ticket to FPSE's future. They are improving the area more and more every day.



Consider the two murders behind rBar a few weeks back. That was big news! People actually seemed surprised that this happened there. Five years ago the same incident would have been a blurb on the fifth page of the paper. I just wish BPW could embrace businesses rather than shun them.

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PostMay 19, 2008#128

Understand that when I say that the idea to adjust the alcohol/food percentanges did bubble up from the surrounding neighborhoods to the stretch of Cherokee this ordinance would affect.



I initially told Craig that all stakeholders needs to be a the table.



When sharing with Craig...both BPW and Gravois Park, expressed concerns over certain issues...I asked Craig why there weren't representatives from CSBA. I was told that he wanted to hear from the neighborhoods, then he would follow-up with CSBA Board.



I contacted Craig several times in Jan/Feb asking about a follow-up meeting and when CSBA would be brought in. I was told that it was being handled.



Only after the events are where they are is it realized that there was not any follow-up with any groups or individuals.



However, I still believe that the re-write is a good idea...just the details needs to be evaluated with regard to the issues mentioned. I do not propose to open Cherokee Street without any ties to a liquor licenses, but we must provide space for economic growth on Cherokee while protecting the residential area.

PostMay 21, 2008#129

Conurbation.



BPW is not shunning businesses.



BPW is happy to work with both sides of the situation...protecting residential areas as well as promoting business and economic growth.



I personally have attempted to work with the Board of CSBA in promoting the area to attract shoppers and businesses.



Again, BPW chose to work with the alderman on this issue to reduce the %'s to open up more opportunity for businesses that would like to have alcohol.



The details of this bill are well beyond the scope of what BPW supports.

PostMay 28, 2008#130

Community building begins with residents. Neighborhood Associations organize and form the residents into a driving force.



Saturday, May 17, two neighborhood associations (Benton Park West and Benton Park) collaborated to have the "Blues in Benton Park" concert. Attended by almost 400 people, this first event in the Park for 2008 was a great success.



Watch for more events in the Park for 2008....word has it there might even be a schedule of events for 2009. Just depends on if enough residents step up with the excitement and passion to be part of the events in the Park.



Watch also for the continued placement of corner planters throughout Benton Park West. The large planters along Gravois and the new planter at the corner of Arsenal/Jefferson are still scheduled to be flowing with beauty.



TRIVIA NIGHT - June 14th. All are invited for a FUN evening of trivia. Cost is $ 20/person or a table of 8 for $ 160. CALL TODAY to reserve your table - 314-771-0803.



Don't forget the neighborhood meetings are the third Thursday of each month...for June, the meeting is Thursday, June 19th with Jennifer Joyce, Circuit Attorney for the city of Saint Louis speaking about fraud.

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PostMay 28, 2008#131

BPW,



A few years back, the city issued RFPs for a bunch of properties along Texas, just south of Gravois - I seem to remember them being all within one or two blocks, and it seemed like it could have a big impact on the neighborhood. Were they ever redeveloped?

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PostMay 30, 2008#132

DeBaliviere.



Yes, there has been a lot of development in the 2800 block of Texas. One property (town house) is currently on the market, but all other properties have either been pre-sold or sold soon after it went on the market.



The most recent property was 2800 Texas. It was a terrible building and the developer has done wonderful work.



Look for the June edition of The Porch Review (should be on the website by early-mid June) for the story and pictures about this rehab.



I do have to say that the Treasurer of the neighborhood association lives in that block. If I'm not mistaken, her house was the first one re-developed. She says constantly that with each re-development, the block gets that much better. She was a pioneer, as a single woman, but she is so glad that she stuck it out.



This block was one which the City focused the development. Virtually every block in BPW has had some re-development, either by individuals or by developers. The 2600 block of Wyoming (five years ago was the worst block in South City...as detailed by police and the NSO), since then, there have been two major developers working several buildings, two individual rehabbers and a LOT of cleanup.



Even today, rehabbing is occurring. Unfortunately, not at the rate it was happening even last year. But, re-development is happening. From the individuals (living rehabs) to developers such as Blue Brick Construction...development continues. But, I do have to say that the development companies can only work when there is a pre-sale.



It takes resides willing to "do the right thing" and step up to take back their space, keep up the space, and be proud of where they live.



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PostJun 22, 2008#133

Update on Trivia Night 2008!



From Membership Chair Chad Johnson and Co-Chair of the event, Carrie Sleep, to the neighborhood:



"Last Night (Saturday June 14, 2008) was a HUGE SUCCESS, and could not have been done with the help of the Board and residents. I am so very proud to announce that the neighborhood association raised about $ 2,800.00 after expenses. These funds will be used for National Night Out activities, youth activities, as well as funding projects in Beautification, Gardens, the Dog Park, etc.



We already have been talking about Trivia Night 2009. So get on your thinking caps and start thinking of a good Emcee, as well as possible judges."



Mr. Johnson went on to say "The big questions is can we TOP Trivia Night 2008?"

PostMar 04, 2009#134

2009 - New year, New activities for Benton Park West!



The first major public event was participation in a "beverage" booth at Mardi Gras. Additionally, Benton Park West was the first neighborhood in the history of Mardi Gras to offer a neighborhood shuttle, along with a partnership of Five Star Senior Center, Park West Grille, and Luvy Duvy's.



Activities for 2009 are numerous:



Monthly meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month at 7p – 2832 Arsenal (Five Star Senior Center). Board meetings are typically held the first Tuesday of each month at 6:30p – 2832 Arsenal.



For more information contact the neighborhood office at 314.771.0803, or on the web at www.bentonparkwest.org.



March



8th Movie @ Cherokee Rec Center (# 1)- WALL E – 4p

20th Membership Social @ Tower Taco 5pm-?

21st Soft opening for the Dog Park



April



4th Garden Opening

11th Eggstravaganza

25st Grand Opening for the Dog Park

25st Bingo Night



May



2nd Cinco de Mayo booth

9th Operation Brightside

22nd Membership social at Park West Grille 5pm-?



June



20th Trivia Night



July



TBA Master Composter – Community Classes

August

1st NNO Movie in the Park, #2

15nd BBQ/Back to School Event w/ Salvation Army

29th Yard Sale



September



12th Movie in the Park #3

17th board nominations

25th Membership social at El Torito 5pm-?

27th For Sale House Tour



October



15th board elections

31st Trunk or Treat @ Salvation Army lot



November



TBA Membership Appreciation Dinner



December



**Cancel Neighborhood Meeting for month

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PostMar 04, 2009#135

Maybe I should move to BPW...

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PostMar 18, 2009#136

Dog Park Initial Opening – March 21st, 8-10a – 3300 Nebraska (Corner of Utah and Nebraska)



Come and pickup applications and find out more about the NEW Benton Park West Dog Park for BPW residents.





Dog Park Grand Opening – April 25th, Time to be announced – 3300 Nebraska (Corner of Utah and Nebraska)



Join neighbors and friends for this milestone event in the life of Benton Park West. After nearly 9 years of a dream, the Dog Park is a reality. Come and celebrate this next step for Benton Park West. Plans are to have such people as the Mayor, other major City officials, alderman, NSO’s, Police, etc. in attendance.



This day will truly make a mark in the history for the neighborhood.

PostJul 31, 2009#137

Fall activities for Benton Park West are abundant.



August 1 - Movie in the Park - Kung Fu Panda. Starts about 8:45p



August 15 - Back to School. BPW is partnering with The Salvation Army to bring school supplies and a BBQ to the kids and families.



August 29 - Annual Yard Sale. Come one, come all to 2832 Arsenal (Five Star Senior Center) to find your next treasure.



September - For Sale House Tour



September - Movie in the Neighborhood (Oregon and Crittendon)



October 31 - Trunk or Treat for Adults and kids (2720 Arsenal - The Salvation Army parking lot)



November - Annual Membership Appreciation Dinner



Come and explore Benton Park West and enjoy the community development/building promoted by the Neighborhood Association.

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PostJul 31, 2009#138

Thanks for posting.



I had a question for you. I recently posted the quote below to my blog. Can you shed some light on it?


“Most of the neighborhood residents in BPW don't go down to Cherokee street because they don't agree with what's happening or not happening in that stretch.”

by Bill Byrd


That's on the Cherokee Street News site's rolling quotes feature.

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PostAug 04, 2009#139

Matt Drops The H wrote:Thanks for posting.



I had a question for you. I recently posted the quote below to my blog. Can you shed some light on it?


“Most of the neighborhood residents in BPW don't go down to Cherokee street because they don't agree with what's happening or not happening in that stretch.”

by Bill Byrd


That's on the Cherokee Street News site's rolling quotes feature.


I hope there is some clarification because I'm very confused. I ended up buying elsewhere partially because of the lack of clarity of the neighborhood on this issue. It sounds like until then, its going to be outsiders supporting Cherokee Street, but I don't know that is the entire story right now.

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PostMay 14, 2014#140

I check in with realtor.com occasionally to see what's shaking mostly in the Benton Park, BPW, Cherokee, Fox Park and McKinley Heights areas. It appears there's a flood of two-families and a few single families that have recently hit the market mostly in the BPW and Cherokee areas.

Somebody might be getting out the slumlord business all at once. Many of the listings say "Already set-up for Section 8!". It sort of pisses me off to see these smiling West County realtors proudly note how the properties are "Section 8 ready!". It's rather insulting.

I mention this so that the growing amount of people out there who are looking for property or rentals in these areas can take a look. It's also a great opportunity to get the properties out of the hands of the slumlords and all that goes with it. Being previously Section 8 many of the properties are beat to hell on the inside of course but most of the buildings look solid from the outside as they almost always do in beautiful South St. Louis USA!

Do your part to keep making it better everyone and buy a property today!

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PostMay 15, 2014#141

leeharveyawesome wrote:I check in with realtor.com occasionally to see what's shaking mostly in the Benton Park, BPW, Cherokee, Fox Park and McKinley Heights areas. It appears there's a flood of two-families and a few single families that have recently hit the market mostly in the BPW and Cherokee areas.

Somebody might be getting out the slumlord business all at once. Many of the listings say "Already set-up for Section 8!". It sort of pisses me off to see these smiling West County realtors proudly note how the properties are "Section 8 ready!". It's rather insulting.

I mention this so that the growing amount of people out there who are looking for property or rentals in these areas can take a look. It's also a great opportunity to get the properties out of the hands of the slumlords and all that goes with it. Being previously Section 8 many of the properties are beat to hell on the inside of course but most of the buildings look solid from the outside as they almost always do in beautiful South St. Louis USA!

Do your part to keep making it better everyone and buy a property today!
http://cherokeestreetnews.org/ also recently started posting a weekly list of homes and commercial spaces available in BPW on Fridays; the most recent one also included LRA properties.

-RBB

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PostMay 15, 2014#142

Hopefully someone like UIC will do for the area what they've been doing near the Shaw/Botanical areas. Their work is tighter than dick skin.

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PostSep 17, 2014#143

No need to start a new thread for this but just wanted to give a tip of the cap to Benton Park. We had some friends in town from Memphis and they've been to STL multiple times before but we tried to take them around to some places they hadn't been. They are huge urban supporters and basically the Memphis version of contributors to this forum.

Anyway, we went to Blues City Deli for lunch before strolling through the World's Fare Festival in Forest Park and Benton Park put on a great show. BCD is always hopping on Saturdays, I think, but it was a great afternoon. The music was cool, the local residents came walking up with chairs, dogs, kids, etc. Bikers came riding up to listen for awhile, eat, drink, hang out. We had a great lunch sitting on the curb and I was so glad to show off just one tiny little wrinkle in the urban fabric of STL. They were impressed with the architecture and different neighborhood feels as you ride through the near southside. To all the Benton Parkers, I realize I'm not saying anything you don't already know, but well done.

The rest of the day after Forest Park included shopping at Dick Blick on the Loop, drinks on the roof of Moonrise, dinner at Dressels, ice cream at the new place at 39th and Shenandoah (Shaw).

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PostAug 28, 2020#144

Is Benton Park West doing okay? I see a bunch of activity there, but nothing here. Are they selling?

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There was one at about 3217 Penn. that got a full rehab into two townhomes, but they seemingly never hit the market.

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Also, the three seen here, just south of Wyoming on Minnesota, are all getting full rehabs (the weird alley house is re-sided in blue siding).

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PostAug 28, 2020#145

I see plenty of rehabs ongoing immediately east of Compton. Not sure if that counts as BPW (or TGE).

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PostAug 31, 2020#146

The alley house is, apparently going to be sold (rented?) separately





They didn’t fix the roof of that alley house properly, though. Disappointing rehab of it, from the exterior standpoint.

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PostAug 31, 2020#147

that chain around the AC condenser ain't gonna protect sh*t.

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PostAug 31, 2020#148

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that chain around the AC condenser ain't gonna protect sh*t.
We've learned over time to put AC condensers on the roof. Have had no theft since. (if you have a flat roof of course).

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PostAug 31, 2020#149

^ definitely. unfortunately it's more expensive to do so, and we were told—after our condensers were pillaged twice in a row despite rather expensive cages—that putting them on the roof can shorten their lives due to higher temperatures and the fact that the pump has to work harder to circulate the refrigerant. for a short time we explored putting them in our basement and constructing an elaborate circulation system. instead we just GTFO.

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PostAug 31, 2020#150

I put condensers and heat pumps (mini splits) on roofs. I find it works great.

Red Bird Crane Service is a great craning option and not expensive. $500 bucks for them to come out and crane the big stuff onto a roof. Multi-unit dwelling, that makes even more sense. And that $500 buys peace of mind and lack of dealing with the theft later.

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