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PostSep 20, 2022#5301

Laife Fulk wrote:
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DeWitt also ended the BPV part of his interview by directly stating that there are no concrete plans at the moment, and no announcements to be made. So he was just talking in general with vague updates.  Don't hold your breath for any major BPV news anytime soon.
Considering that Bill Dewitt runs an organization that is notoriously guarded about its business, I’m not surprised he closed with that

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PostSep 20, 2022#5302

Right - just trying to pump the breaks on expectations here before people misinterpret what was said.

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PostSep 20, 2022#5303

RockChalkSTL wrote:
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I'm hoping that they will go bigger and better with the remaining lots, though I'll take towers of comparable size to One Cardinal Way if that's what it will take to get it done. 
The height of the next building to rise should be the same as the number of home runs Albert Pujols winds up hitting in his career... so approximately 700'.  Call it The Albert. The other two should be The Waino and The Yadi. And nothing but the best design.

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PostSep 20, 2022#5304

STLrainbow wrote:
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RockChalkSTL wrote:
Sep 19, 2022
I'm hoping that they will go bigger and better with the remaining lots, though I'll take towers of comparable size to One Cardinal Way if that's what it will take to get it done. 
The height of the next building to rise should be the same as the number of home runs Albert Pujols winds up hitting in his career... so approximately 700'.  Call it The Albert. The other two should be The Waino and The Yadi. And nothing but the best design.
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PostSep 21, 2022#5305

We'd all love the tower filled by the blue chip tenant but I think office demand will be at best on a par capable of filling another PWC. I think their best shot will likely be current Cardinals sponsors/partners with a base somewhere outside the typical office clusters (DT, Clayton, 270) to try and sell them on a move to an urban up and coming setting. Suspect any further development will be in phases I.e. 3a, 3b and so on as opposed to the full whack that phase 2 was. If the remainder of BPV constitutes another residential tower plus a couple of mid rises filled with smaller/medium sized tenants I could live with that. Fear would be that we end up settling for crap like parking garages.

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PostSep 21, 2022#5306

JPowell is about to raise the price of money again by 75-100 basis points today with no end in sight, not the best time to be announcing new towers.

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PostSep 21, 2022#5307

^I think its supposedly still a good time to build multi-family. Kai Ryssdal just said the same thing yesterday on Marketplace as well. So, as long as there is a housing supply crisis, multifamily will still be a solid investment... as long as rent continues to outpace inflation/rates.

https://www.globest.com/2022/06/29/mult ... 0821104910
Multifamily Rent Growth Continues to Outpace Inflation

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PostSep 23, 2022#5308

Yadi has caught 381 people stealing in his career. Whatever number he finishes with would be a good height for the Yadi building

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PostSep 23, 2022#5309

^Hah @STLrainbow that's actually a genius idea 😂

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PostSep 23, 2022#5310

The two year treasury now pays 4%.  It was less than 1% at the beginning of the year.  If I had to guess, institutional money will wait out speculative / risky real estate development projects and park their money in short term bonds that are paying the same return they hoped to achieve building project like 1CW. Much less risk.  

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PostSep 23, 2022#5311

Yeah, I really think Cordish missed their window. I just hope the Albion has their financing locked in.

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PostSep 24, 2022#5312

You guys are acting like interest rates are high. Higher than 2021 YES. Historically above average NO.

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PostSep 24, 2022#5313

^4 is less than 6? Say it ain't so!

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PostSep 24, 2022#5314

Heck; my broker actually tried to sell me a Certificate of Deposit the other day. And I actually thought about it.

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PostSep 24, 2022#5315

moorlander wrote:
Sep 24, 2022
You guys are acting like interest rates are high. Higher than 2021 YES. Historically above average NO.
There is a lagging effect.  Interest rates have spiked while costs still remain elevated.  New deal flow has slowed significantly.  It takes time for interest rate increases to have their intended effect of slowing down and controlling prices.  We are looking at deals that would require 50% plus cash into the project. It is why we have building cycles.  

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PostSep 26, 2022#5316

^lumber futures look good though right? lowest since 2020 as of late... how long does that take to get to our wholesale bulk lumber warehouses here?

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PostSep 26, 2022#5317

pattimagee wrote:^lumber futures look good though right? lowest since 2020 as of late... how long does that take to get to our wholesale bulk lumber warehouses here?
Look at steel, labor, etc

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PostSep 26, 2022#5318

Steel is also coming back down as well... and I'm not debating that costs don't impact construction projects... I was mostly just curious how long it takes for these big reductions in commodities to make their way locally? 

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PostSep 29, 2022#5319

Updated retail map...
  • Guy Fieri's Dive & Taco Joint will go into the space next to where the Fudgery used to be.
  • Kobito Poke will occupy the space formerly occupied by the One Cardinal Way leasing office and part of the Fudgery space,
  • Condado tacos, tequila, and margaritas will occupy the former Drunken Fish space.
These additions leave 4 retail spaces available for lease.
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PostOct 03, 2022#5320

Uh oh, two taco places opening around the same time. They were each probably thinking, "Hey, you know what's missing, some sort of tex-mex taco concept." Now there will be two, LOL.

That being said, two tacos (and margaritas) is better that one!

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PostOct 03, 2022#5321

Agreed, I'll take all the tacos I can get. Lol.  It will be nice when someone occupies that corner retail space at Cardinal Way & Broadway to help fill in some of that long blank wall along Broadway.

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PostOct 03, 2022#5322

I can tell you all that Guy Fieri's restaurant is pretty underwhelming. 

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PostOct 03, 2022#5323

EssTeeEll wrote:
Oct 03, 2022
Agreed, I'll take all the tacos I can get. Lol.  I will be nice when someone occupies that corner retail space at Cardinal Way & Broadway to help fill in some of that long blank wall along Broadway.
Hopefully we'll see something with that soon now that Ballpark Heights is wrapping up across the street.

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PostOct 04, 2022#5324

Are these new openings just more Cordish chains? Or independent/local restaurants?

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PostOct 04, 2022#5325

I'm surprised some fast food chains like Chick-Fil-A or McDonald's haven't opened up a flagship store in Ballpark Village. It also seems like a drug store would do good in there. Maybe when more residential gets added. 

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