^those Kiener garages need to go bye bye
Yeah it was a muted view from the rooftop when I went. Parking garages, as far as the eye can see.
The New York Times ( reprinted in St Louis Business Journal ) - Developers are creating new homes for surging esports
Seems like this would be a good fit at BPV....
But conversions and remodeling pale in comparison with the planned Fusion Arena in Philadelphia, which will be the first space built specifically for esports in the United States.
The 3,500-seat, $50 million project will be the home for the Philadelphia Fusion, a two-year-old team that competes in the Overwatch League, a franchise in which players from all over the world battle in a futuristic first-person shooter. Groundbreaking for the arena, which is being developed by the Cordish Cos., is expected this summer for a planned opening in 2021.
Equipped with a production studio, a training center and three private suites lined with bars and fridges, the 60,000-square-foot development will sit in the middle of the South Philadelphia Sports Complex, which includes the Wells Fargo Center, where the Flyers and the 76ers play.
Not only will the arena project help esports cement its status in the mainstream, experts say, it’s also expected to unleash a wave of similar projects.
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Also, because tournaments can last eight hours, fans will be able to stretch their legs in a roomier-than-usual concourse dotted with bar stations, food vendors and a merchandise store.
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During the offseason, rows of seats and even the stage at Fusion Arena can be easily removed to create extra space for games like Fortnite that can have 100 players. The arena can also handle small concerts, business meetings or lectures, said Blake Cordish, a vice president at the developer.
The facility also furthers Cordish’s goal to make the area a broader entertainment district, which includes Xfinity Live, a bar-and-restaurant complex owned by Cordish and Comcast.
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I don't think we need an arena built at BPV. Fox Sports Midwest Live is good enough. Now, if something like this was built on one of the parking lots South of 64 by Cordish, I would be in support.urbanitas wrote:The New York Times ( reprinted in St Louis Business Journal ) - Developers are creating new homes for surging esports
Seems like this would be a good fit at BPV.
^ I know they call it an "arena" in the article, but in reality it is much smaller than what that implies. It is only a 60,000 SF building, on two levels. That would easily fit on one of the three remaining BPV Phase III lots, or more likely, on top of another parking podium.
The Fusion Arena will be across the street from Xfinity Live!, Cordish's Philly version of Ballpark Village,
The Fusion Arena will be across the street from Xfinity Live!, Cordish's Philly version of Ballpark Village,
Sorry but, Xfinity Live and Ballpark Village are complete opposites, Xfinity Live is a small entertainment complex near the stadiums, surrounded by nothing but multiple parking lots. I think Cordish is just making the best use of the land; I hope they do not do this near Ballpark Village.urbanitas wrote: The New York Times ( reprinted in St Louis Business Journal ) - Developers are creating new homes for surging esports
Seems like this would be a good fit at BPV....
But conversions and remodeling pale in comparison with the planned Fusion Arena in Philadelphia, which will be the first space built specifically for esports in the United States.
The 3,500-seat, $50 million project will be the home for the Philadelphia Fusion, a two-year-old team that competes in the Overwatch League, a franchise in which players from all over the world battle in a futuristic first-person shooter. Groundbreaking for the arena, which is being developed by the Cordish Cos., is expected this summer for a planned opening in 2021.
Equipped with a production studio, a training center and three private suites lined with bars and fridges, the 60,000-square-foot development will sit in the middle of the South Philadelphia Sports Complex, which includes the Wells Fargo Center, where the Flyers and the 76ers play.
Not only will the arena project help esports cement its status in the mainstream, experts say, it’s also expected to unleash a wave of similar projects.
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Also, because tournaments can last eight hours, fans will be able to stretch their legs in a roomier-than-usual concourse dotted with bar stations, food vendors and a merchandise store.
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During the offseason, rows of seats and even the stage at Fusion Arena can be easily removed to create extra space for games like Fortnite that can have 100 players. The arena can also handle small concerts, business meetings or lectures, said Blake Cordish, a vice president at the developer.
The facility also furthers Cordish’s goal to make the area a broader entertainment district, which includes Xfinity Live, a bar-and-restaurant complex owned by Cordish and Comcast.
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I wouldn't call Xfinity Live small, its bigger than what BPV will be after Phase 2, in terms of dining and entertainment. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Cordish and Comcast Spectacor plan to fill in all of those northern lots around Xfinity Live eventually, similar to BPV. There is a $700 million Live hotel and casino, a massive parking garage, and a 200,000 SF office building in the works now. And with FDR park just to the west, The Navy Yard to the south, and residential neighborhoods to the north (not to mention an awesome view of the Philly skyline), I'm sure they will do residential towers at some point, especially if they have success with it in their other projects.vpr611 wrote: Sorry but, Xfinity Live and Ballpark Village are complete opposites, Xfinity Live is a small entertainment complex near the stadiums, surrounded by nothing but multiple parking lots. I think Cordish is just making the best use of the land; I hope they do not do this near Ballpark Village.
They have a master plan for BPV empty lots, they know what they want down there and what kind of business they are looking to bring in, such as a major HQ for a larger office tower, more residential, and more retail as examples.
They should have about a baker's dozen master plans by now...Gary5071 wrote: They have a master plan for BPV empty lots, they know what they want down there and what kind of business they are looking to bring in, such as a major HQ for a larger office tower, more residential, and more retail as examples.
...enough master plans to wallpaper PWC's office space...
...enough master plans to cover Busch's infield.
^ Agree with multiple plans and renderings but I do give some credit for Cordish/DeWitt trying to keep some vertical integration in the various plans which makes a lot sense when you consider the square footage and therefore leaseable space increases every floor they can add.
Understand that BPV phase I didn't meet that criteria but I would say that was just as much to get something going and started after a fairly brutal turndown and then a steady growth trend. My simplistic opinion, I would say they are much better shape to add Two Cardinal Way tower as well as attract an anchor for slender office tower stair stepping above PWC
Understand that BPV phase I didn't meet that criteria but I would say that was just as much to get something going and started after a fairly brutal turndown and then a steady growth trend. My simplistic opinion, I would say they are much better shape to add Two Cardinal Way tower as well as attract an anchor for slender office tower stair stepping above PWC
^ If leasing on 1CW goes great, does the city keep granting these guys subsidies? When does our pay in for luxury apartments and overly stout office buildings end?
More subsidies means they need to land some major jobs Downtown. I'm talking major HQ and a tower. Otherwise, most of this development is drive-in, drive-out meaningless attraction for no other positive purpose but temporary enjoyment and some urban density restored.
More subsidies means they need to land some major jobs Downtown. I'm talking major HQ and a tower. Otherwise, most of this development is drive-in, drive-out meaningless attraction for no other positive purpose but temporary enjoyment and some urban density restored.
One Cardinal Way is starting to make an impact on the skyline from the Bordeaux in Lafayette Square. The PwC Pennant Building is a good addition too. I think @symphonicpoet enjoyed the view from up here.
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Oh, indeed I did. It's a very nice view. The folks as move in there will doubtless enjoy their rooftop.
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. . . (And yeah, this is a touch off topic. But you can just see BPV poking through the gaps by the arch.)
. . . (And yeah, this is a touch off topic. But you can just see BPV poking through the gaps by the arch.)
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Just thought I share a few pics from the Eads Bridge 1CW is becoming more visible from that view of Downtown
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The Millenium Hotel. Which has been through a bunch of name changes over the years. I knew it mostly as the Clarion. It apparently started life as the Stouffer's Riverfront Inn. And it has its own thread. (Though it surely gets mentioned elsewhere often enough.) The general scuttlebutt hereabouts is that it's in rather poor physical condition, particularly the newer shorter tower to the south. Some of us favor conversion. Others have written it off. But so far as I know there are no plans at present.hebeters2 wrote: Is anything going on with that round cylindrical building?
I was down at the ballgame on Sunday and snapped a few crane shots. Didn't get a chance to really walk around the stadium as I would have liked though.
My dad (a great guy, but has the typical West County opinions haha) was blown away when I told him how tall 1CW is supposed to be. He thought they were just building a short little stubby apartment building. He was also counting cranes on the way home, I think we got to 6 lol.
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GO CARDS!
(and BLUES!)
My dad (a great guy, but has the typical West County opinions haha) was blown away when I told him how tall 1CW is supposed to be. He thought they were just building a short little stubby apartment building. He was also counting cranes on the way home, I think we got to 6 lol.
GO CARDS!
(and BLUES!)
Nice to see that that the arch views are still unobstructed for at least a little bit of the 3rd base side.
Less importantly, not much building signage is blocked by 1CW from there. You’ll still be able to see KPMG, Polsinelli and Deloitte. Greensfelder might be the only casualty on that front.
Less importantly, not much building signage is blocked by 1CW from there. You’ll still be able to see KPMG, Polsinelli and Deloitte. Greensfelder might be the only casualty on that front.
^ Yeah not bad. 155ish may be the best view in terms of still getting the arch in there. Alas, they are not my seats though lol. My dad I were a bit bored on Sunday and just decided to come downtown and see if we could get some seats. We bought these from a guy in front of the Stadium West garage, pretty cheap considering the location...and the opponent that day haha.
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A friend of mine won seats in that general vicinity. Far and away my favorite seats in the ballpark so far. And yeah, the prices sounded surprisingly reasonable for a view that good.
What a lovely view for the back-facing room hotel guests and amenities deck visitors.The Mayor wrote:
I will optimistically assume that that massive Pennant Building garage concrete block wall is going to get some type of screen or banner as well. I am not optimistic enough to hope for a green wall.
I thought that the primary purpose of screening on a parking garage was to allow airflow to ventilate the garage ( so that parking enthusiasts don't all die horrible deaths from deadly / lethal / toxic / poisonous carbon dioxideThe Mayor wrote: ^ It's definitely getting screened.
), and yet still allow for a pretense of aesthetic camouflage. The concrete block would seem to defeat that purpose.The cheapest option would be another giant advertising banner(s) over the vast expanse of concrete. That's more likely given that there are already a couple of those rendered for other parts of Phase II. Actually, the cheapest option would be paint, but I don't think Cordish or the Cardinals would pass up any opportunity for more advertising surface in Ballpark Village.