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PostJul 11, 2008#301

innov8ion wrote:And I just got the call that I've been accepted into the Professional MBA program at WashU starting the fall. Time to celebrate! (Not celebrating the InBev buyout, but I do think it's good news overall.)


Congratulations! Celebrate, and like DeBaliviere said, enjoy that free time while you still have some! 8)



The latest information about the InBev buyout and how St. Louis might actually benefit from it gives me a little hope. Guess we'll have to wait and see what develops.

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innov8ion wrote:And I just got the call that I've been accepted into the Professional MBA program at WashU starting the fall. Time to celebrate! (Not celebrating the InBev buyout, but I do think it's good news overall.)
I wonder if InBev will continue to provide weekly or bi-weekly kegs for Wash U MBA students? :P

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PostJul 12, 2008#303

matguy70 wrote:We'll have to wait and see.

It is a double edge sword for all most likely.



KMOX just said that a press release said "... that InBev would move its global headquarters to St. Louis " and possible adding employees in St. Louis.




WOW!

If this really happens how awesome would it be if the deal included a brand spanking new office tower in downtown for the Global HQ!!

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rickC wrote:
matguy70 wrote:We'll have to wait and see.

It is a double edge sword for all most likely.



KMOX just said that a press release said "... that InBev would move its global headquarters to St. Louis " and possible adding employees in St. Louis.




WOW!

If this really happens how awesome would it be if the deal included a brand spanking new office tower in downtown for the Global HQ!!


Not likely.

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^ I agree. At this point, I just hope the global headquarters will move to St. Louis, the combined company will assume the Anheuser-Busch name, and there won't be any drastic changes at the main brewery and corporate campus (unless they want to build more and/or add jobs, which would be fine with me as well).

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I talked to someone from Long Island, NY as he sat by me at the Mets/Cardinals game. He now lives in Wildwood. He said that, and I quote, "If Anheuser Busch sells, you won't see these seats full every night!" I guess the 2 thousand people that would lose their jobs on the deal (just a random number I through out, knowing AB has 5500 employees) account for the 4x,xxx people at the games each night.

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JuiceInDogtown wrote:I talked to someone from Long Island, NY as he sat by me at the Mets/Cardinals game. He now lives in Wildwood. He said that, and I quote, "If Anheuser Busch sells, you won't see these seats full every night!" I guess the 2 thousand people that would lose their jobs on the deal (just a random number I through out, knowing AB has 5500 employees) account for the 4x,xxx people at the games each night.


He sounds like an idiot.

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PostJul 12, 2008#308

^ Well, he does live in Wildwood after all. :P (I kid, I kid!)

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PostJul 12, 2008#309

rickC wrote:
matguy70 wrote:We'll have to wait and see.

It is a double edge sword for all most likely.



KMOX just said that a press release said "... that InBev would move its global headquarters to St. Louis " and possible adding employees in St. Louis.




WOW!

If this really happens how awesome would it be if the deal included a brand spanking new office tower in downtown for the Global HQ!!


inbev said it would move its north american headquarters to st. louis. I don't know how kmox got that confused. st. louis would become the headquarters for budweiser and budweiser would become the merger's flagship brand. Bottom line is its looking like a good move. not bad for the 52nd city.

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PostJul 12, 2008#310

^Right. Global probably was used in that St. Louis will be the global headquarters of their Budweiser flagship brand. Now, if we could score the entire headquarters, that would be great.

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PostJul 12, 2008#311

Attention lazy journalists and news readers (the latest being Cordell Whitlock on channel 5):



Grant's Farm is NOT owned by Anheuser-Busch



Thank you.

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I'm sorry, but I cant see how this will be good for St. Louis. Inbev is talking that sh*t now, but once everyone cools down they will start laying off people left and right.

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well, would moving the main office to st. louis be that bad an idea? if not st. louis then some other us city. with the way the dollar is going, and inbev getting most of their money from europe, then setting up shop over here might be a good move on their part. paying us real estate prices, salaries, gas prices, etc... with essentially euros. they would make out like bandits.



the layoffs is what i worry about too. there are alot of skilled workers there. all the brewing equipment is the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened. when something breaks, they can't just order a part from a catalog. it has to be made there on site. maybe that will be the first change. get rid of antiquated equipment.

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bikin'_man wrote:the layoffs is what i worry about too. there are alot of skilled workers there. all the brewing equipment is the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened. when something breaks, they can't just order a part from a catalog. it has to be made there on site. maybe that will be the first change. get rid of antiquated equipment.


Huh? I certainly hope you are not referring to the St Louis brewery. It has been continually modernized and upgraded over the years. I can assure you that nothing is "the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened". Not even close.

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Attention lazy journalists and news readers (the latest being Cordell Whitlock on channel 5):



Grant's Farm is NOT owned by Anheuser-Busch



Thank you.
A-B leases the Grant's Farm property from the Busch family at $4 million a year. I think the point was that InBev won't have much interest in continuing to make those lease payments and pay operating expenses of Grant's Farm when they are looking at ways to cut costs and pay for the acquisition of A-B.



InBev may not be able to sell the property, but they could theoretically sell the operation. Since it doesn't make a profit though, I'm not sure who would buy it. I suppose you could charge admission, but how much are people going to be willing to pay to see some animals that you can see at the zoo for free?

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
bikin'_man wrote:the layoffs is what i worry about too. there are alot of skilled workers there. all the brewing equipment is the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened. when something breaks, they can't just order a part from a catalog. it has to be made there on site. maybe that will be the first change. get rid of antiquated equipment.


Huh? I certainly hope you are not referring to the St Louis brewery. It has been continually modernized and upgraded over the years. I can assure you that nothing is "the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened". Not even close.


wow you seem to be an a-b expert. let me ask you, have you ever worked at the brewery and know how business operations work at the brewery?



and im not talk about being some IT contractor at sunset hills.





:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
bikin'_man wrote:the layoffs is what i worry about too. there are alot of skilled workers there. all the brewing equipment is the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened. when something breaks, they can't just order a part from a catalog. it has to be made there on site. maybe that will be the first change. get rid of antiquated equipment.


Huh? I certainly hope you are not referring to the St Louis brewery. It has been continually modernized and upgraded over the years. I can assure you that nothing is "the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened". Not even close.


wow you seem to be an a-b expert. let me ask you, have you ever worked at the brewery and know how business operations work at the brewery?



and im not talk about being some IT contractor at sunset hills.





:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes I have. And I won't be recommending you for a summer job.

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I worked at the brewery as well, and much of my family retired from there. TCS is right. It has been thoroughly modernized over the years, and has one of the highest outputs (when I worked there it was the highest) of any A-B brewery, despite being one of the smallest.

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PostJul 12, 2008#319

I guess people are trying to be optimistic about it, but I don't see how this is good for St. Louis. I don't know much about business, but history says it's only a matter of time until St. Louis gets screwed.

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PostJul 13, 2008#320

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
phoaddict wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

Huh? I certainly hope you are not referring to the St Louis brewery. It has been continually modernized and upgraded over the years. I can assure you that nothing is "the same stuff that was there, for the most part, when the place opened". Not even close.


wow you seem to be an a-b expert. let me ask you, have you ever worked at the brewery and know how business operations work at the brewery?



and im not talk about being some IT contractor at sunset hills.





:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes I have. And I won't be recommending you for a summer job.


Oh, i'm not saying tcs is wrong, I'm just curious on how many areas he's an expert in.



Would you mind sharing with the class what you do/did for the brewery?

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phoaddict wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
phoaddict wrote:

wow you seem to be an a-b expert. let me ask you, have you ever worked at the brewery and know how business operations work at the brewery?



and im not talk about being some IT contractor at sunset hills.





:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes I have. And I won't be recommending you for a summer job.


Oh, i'm not saying tcs is wrong, I'm just curious on how many areas he's an expert in.



Would you mind sharing with the class what you do/did for the brewery?


I'm an expert in a lot of areas. And not just within AB.

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phoaddict wrote:


Oh, i'm not saying tcs is wrong, I'm just curious on how many areas he's an expert in.



Would you mind sharing with the class what you do/did for the brewery?


Don't question it, just go with it. It helps his self-esteem.

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PostJul 13, 2008#323

The concern should be less over the promise of the North American HQ as it should be over whether InBev is truly committed to Budweiser as the flagship brand for the combined company and continuing the AB family of brands. Somehow, I see InBev making this deal to get access to the AB wholesale system in the US and its investments in China and India and not caring much about Bud or the AB family of brands. In particular, the wholesale system allows InBev to strengthen the global cachet of its existing brands at the expense of growing Bud, Bud Light or any other AB brands market share in the US or abroad. It would not surprise me at all to see in five years that the AB brands market share in the US has fallen significantly but that the overall market share of the combined company remained constant. In such a situation, St. Louis could be hard hit with job losses. Moreover, given that AB has always chosen to develop its own version of beers to mimic the types produced by rivals rather than buy out those rivals, it would not be surprising to see the overall number of AB beers reduced. Michelob, as the designated higher quality AB beer label, could be hard hit in particular as the range of InBev existing products are used to reduce operating costs by retiring the AB versions. By reducing the number and amount of beer produced by AB factories, job losses will mount. It will be interesting to watch how the system plays out. AB should push for St. Louis to be the HQ of the Americas not just North America.

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JMedwick wrote:The concern should be less over the promise of the North American HQ as it should be over whether InBev is truly committed to Budweiser as the flagship brand for the combined company and continuing the AB family of brands. Somehow, I see InBev making this deal to get access to the AB wholesale system in the US and its investments in China and India and not caring much about Bud or the AB family of brands. In particular, the wholesale system allows InBev to strengthen the global cachet of its existing brands at the expense of growing Bud, Bud Light or any other AB brands market share in the US or abroad. It would not surprise me at all to see in five years that the AB brands market share in the US has fallen significantly but that the overall market share of the combined company remained constant. In such a situation, St. Louis could be hard hit with job losses. Moreover, given that AB has always chosen to develop its own version of beers to mimic the types produced by rivals rather than buy out those rivals, it would not be surprising to see the overall number of AB beers reduced. Michelob, as the designated higher quality AB beer label, could be hard hit in particular as the range of InBev existing products are used to reduce operating costs by retiring the AB versions. By reducing the number and amount of beer produced by AB factories, job losses will mount. It will be interesting to watch how the system plays out. AB should push for St. Louis to be the HQ of the Americas not just North America.


The post dispatch is pushing for St. Louis to be the global headquarters for inbev and for inbev to change their name to A-B. It also suggests that this wouldn't be much of a stretch at all. Pretty decent article.



"Can InBev lead to a St. Louis renaissance?"



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument

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