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JMedwick wrote:The concern should be less over the promise of the North American HQ as it should be over whether InBev is truly committed to Budweiser as the flagship brand for the combined company and continuing the AB family of brands. Somehow, I see InBev making this deal to get access to the AB wholesale system in the US and its investments in China and India and not caring much about Bud or the AB family of brands. In particular, the wholesale system allows InBev to strengthen the global cachet of its existing brands at the expense of growing Bud, Bud Light or any other AB brands market share in the US or abroad. It would not surprise me at all to see in five years that the AB brands market share in the US has fallen significantly but that the overall market share of the combined company remained constant. In such a situation, St. Louis could be hard hit with job losses. Moreover, given that AB has always chosen to develop its own version of beers to mimic the types produced by rivals rather than buy out those rivals, it would not be surprising to see the overall number of AB beers reduced. Michelob, as the designated higher quality AB beer label, could be hard hit in particular as the range of InBev existing products are used to reduce operating costs by retiring the AB versions. By reducing the number and amount of beer produced by AB factories, job losses will mount. It will be interesting to watch how the system plays out. AB should push for St. Louis to be the HQ of the Americas not just North America.


The post dispatch is pushing for St. Louis to be the global headquarters for inbev and for inbev to change their name to A-B. It also suggests that this wouldn't be much of a stretch at all. Pretty decent article.



"Can InBev lead to a St. Louis renaissance?"



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument


You must be mistaken. According to some posters (phoaddict, for one), the Post is trying to destroy St. Louis. Why would they be pushing for St. Louis to be the global HQ? Perhaps it is a diversionary tactic so that no one catches on to their diabolical scheme.

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PostJul 14, 2008#327

AB has been sold to the foreigners, god help da Lou!

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PostJul 14, 2008#328

goat314 wrote:AB has been sold to the foreigners, god help da Lou!


just got the news too. hopefully something positive for stl happens

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PostJul 14, 2008#329

A-B approved officially tonite



- The new company will be called Anheuser-Busch Inbev (What a mouthful)

- A-B will have 2 seats on the board

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PostJul 14, 2008#330

Did you hear that? That sound was Inno popping the champaign!

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PostJul 14, 2008#331

I'd say there are a lot of people in the metro area "popping the champaign", although I'm not sure what a college town in central Illinois has to do with anything. :lol:

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PostJul 14, 2008#332

I just read the news on CNN's front page tonight:



http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/13/anheus ... index.html



This sucks big time and I hope you guys don't get screwed (job-wise) in the long run. I honestly don't see how anything good could come out of this for STL, but the main thing is -people losing their jobs. If P&G were acquired by a European Co. I'd be freaking out a little ...



What sucks about this -is big Corporations allowing acquisitions by other Co.'s outside the city that made them who they are.

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PostJul 14, 2008#333

2008 was supposed to be a great year for the city...

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I feel so empty.

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Man, St. Louis just isn't going to feel the same.



I just hope that in working out a sweet deal for the shareholders that a sweet deal was worked out for all of the stakeholders as well: employees, charitable recipients, etc.



Turns out that AB was actually going to announce after July 4 that they were buying the remaining interest in Groupo Modelo, which would then lead to a possible failure for InBev to get the financing needed. Unfortunately, InBev then came back with the $5 more per share.



Should we pour one out for our fallen homies?

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Party tonight at the royale!!!! :roll:

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PostJul 14, 2008#337

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This sucks big time and I hope you guys don't get screwed (job-wise) in the long run. I honestly don't see how anything good could come out of this for STL, but the main thing is -people losing their jobs. If P&G were acquired by a European Co. I'd be freaking out a little ...


Well, what about the people that deserved to be fired 10 years ago and are still working there? Maybe it was partially their fault and their managers/executives for letting them stay there which caused all this mess in the first place.



(I dont mean FIRED on the spot, i mean some sort of warning,demotion, pay cut, in order for them to get them back on track.) Instead, they got to keep their jobs, gets raises, and made everyone else around them the same... lazy.



Hell, August IV was a joke, look at Britos background comepared to August's.



Also, because the Board HELD OFF for the $70, that just means MORE cuts for St. Louis. Good Job!!! :roll:

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TB1000 wrote:Turns out that AB was actually going to announce after July 4 that they were buying the remaining interest in Groupo Modelo, which would then lead to a possible failure for InBev to get the financing needed. Unfortunately, InBev then came back with the $5 more per share.


I'm not sure where you heard that, but I seriously doubt it was true. The talks with GM broke down, and not only did they not want to sell the other half of the company to AB, they actually wanted to buy back the half from AB.

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zink wrote:Hell, August IV was a joke, look at Britos background comepared to August's.


The blame for this (assuming it is a bad thing) goes to AB III, not IV.

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PostJul 14, 2008#340

^Don't you read the Post Dispatch?


If a report in the Financial Times can be believed — and the London newspaper has had good sources throughout this saga — things came to a head just before July 4. A-B apparently had negotiated a deal to buy all of Grupo Modelo, the Mexican brewer in which it already has a half-interest. It was ready to announce that deal right after the holiday weekend, the FT says.



Then, things happened quickly. InBev raised its offer by $5 a share, to $70, and the two sides agreed to talks by Thursday night. Three days later, the deal was done.


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JMedwick wrote:^Don't you read the Post Dispatch?


If a report in the Financial Times can be believed — and the London newspaper has had good sources throughout this saga — things came to a head just before July 4. A-B apparently had negotiated a deal to buy all of Grupo Modelo, the Mexican brewer in which it already has a half-interest. It was ready to announce that deal right after the holiday weekend, the FT says.



Then, things happened quickly. InBev raised its offer by $5 a share, to $70, and the two sides agreed to talks by Thursday night. Three days later, the deal was done.


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I had not read that! The word around the company was what I posted. I guess they kept a pretty tight lid on it.



Not sure why they didn't announce it. From what we have heard, Inbev didn't up the offer until Friday. I suspect there is a lot more to this story than what we have heard so far.

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JMedwick wrote:The concern should be less over the promise of the North American HQ as it should be over whether InBev is truly committed to Budweiser as the flagship brand for the combined company and continuing the AB family of brands. Somehow, I see InBev making this deal to get access to the AB wholesale system in the US and its investments in China and India and not caring much about Bud or the AB family of brands. In particular, the wholesale system allows InBev to strengthen the global cachet of its existing brands at the expense of growing Bud, Bud Light or any other AB brands market share in the US or abroad. It would not surprise me at all to see in five years that the AB brands market share in the US has fallen significantly but that the overall market share of the combined company remained constant. In such a situation, St. Louis could be hard hit with job losses. Moreover, given that AB has always chosen to develop its own version of beers to mimic the types produced by rivals rather than buy out those rivals, it would not be surprising to see the overall number of AB beers reduced. Michelob, as the designated higher quality AB beer label, could be hard hit in particular as the range of InBev existing products are used to reduce operating costs by retiring the AB versions. By reducing the number and amount of beer produced by AB factories, job losses will mount. It will be interesting to watch how the system plays out. AB should push for St. Louis to be the HQ of the Americas not just North America.


The post dispatch is pushing for St. Louis to be the global headquarters for inbev and for inbev to change their name to A-B. It also suggests that this wouldn't be much of a stretch at all. Pretty decent article.



"Can InBev lead to a St. Louis renaissance?"



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument


Hmm. The article above isn't nearly as prudent as this article: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument



Personally, and I'm sure like some forward-thinking St. Louisans, I have mixed feelings about the newly formed A-B-I. On one hand, I'm a bit down knowing a 150+ year institution in St. Louis is set to change. However, on the other much more optimistic hand, I'm excited of said change having read the background of Carlos Brito. Furthermore, the former article sited, as well as jlmedwick's summation, quite frankly, highlights some of the most asinine and endemic issues evident in our region: St. Louis is uncomfortable with change and often proud to a fault.



"Instead, InBev should rename itself Anheuser-Busch and move its world headquarters to St. Louis." Asking A-B-I to rename itself A-B does nothing for the general consumer or shareholder. Instead, it merely helps St. Louis swallow a bitter pill. This point is effectively moot considering the "brand" names of A-B products would never change.



I will concede one point, I believe its imperative that the civic leaders of St. Louis urge Brito to keep his word on making STL the North American headquarters of A-B-I. However, in doing so, our leaders need to realize that perpetuating heritage A-B culture (although finely interwoven with STL culture) is not on Brito's agenda. Allow me to offer up an adage; "Save it or make it." Brito is a master of the former.



"Brito eschews the kind of corporate perks that have become typical today. He and other executive board members fly business class only on flights over 6 hours; otherwise they go coach. There are no company cars, free beer or reserved parking spots."



Honestly, I'm glad to see such frugal examples being set by the leader of this new company, and I can't wait to see the positive change that Brito puts in place for A-B-I. A-B has long been known to have quasi cronyism and its stagnating stock price is clear evidence of it's leaders complacency and resistance to making the tough decision: cutting the fat.



"Brito's reputation as a cost-cutter was affirmed during his brief tenure as InBev's head of North America. Within months of his arrival after the 2004 creation of InBev through the merger of Interbrew and AmBev, Brito shut Labatt Blue's Toronto brewery and fired 20 percent of its salaried work force. 'My impression of Carlos Brito was that he came here to do it his way,' said Guy McClelland, a former Labatt manager who left the brewer a year before Brito took over and now runs a beer import company in Toronto. 'The one thing you cannot argue with is that he more or less doubled the bottom line (at Labatt) in five years."



ttricamo's alternate assumption to jlmedwicks: A-B products do not lose market share in the US. StL has the opportunity to welcome A-B-I with open arms ONLY if they're willing to realize that Brito is not the Busch Family or their cronies. Jobs, both white, blue, and contract are cut at A-B-I but because it makes sense to both the bottom-line and the shareholders. Clydesdales everywhere are spared.



sidebar: I hope Brito cans Bud Light Lime

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PostJul 14, 2008#343

It will be interesting to see how the merger plays out and how many jobs are lost in St. Louis. It all depends on:



A. Whether InBev is really committed to making Bud a major international brand;

B. Whether InBev is successful in making Bud a major international brand; and

C. Whether InBev is committed to maintaining the dominance of AB brands in the US or supplanting that dominance with other non-AB brands.



The biggest worry should be that in a fit of cost cutting down the line, InBev consolidates the North American and South American HQ's in Brazil.

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PostJul 14, 2008#344

Moorlander wrote:Did you hear that? That sound was Inno popping the champaign!
I wouldn't say that exactly. I do think it serves as a warning for any company that becomes complacent (fat and happy.) As the dollar is weak and continues to weaken, we will see more mergers and acquisitions of domestic companies by foreign ones.



I concur with ttricamo and zink.


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PostJul 14, 2008#345

Support local business. Drink Schlafly.

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Shimmy wrote:I don't know much about business, but history says it's only a matter of time until St. Louis gets screwed.


+1



My thoughts exactly. I had hoped there would be an announcement in which St. Louis would be named global headquarters of the combined company, although I should've known better. As great as I think St. Louis is, we just cannot pull off a coup like that. Such a commitment would've also assuaged me about the "commitment" to expanding Budweiser as a global brand and keeping all vestiges of A-B tradition in St. Louis alive and well. I don't give a damn what Carlos Brito says, as I would trust the man as far as I could throw him. We've been down this road before many times- just ask American Airlines and Macy's about their "commitment" to St. Louis. :roll:



I just hope the hoosiers that are upset about this move keep buying A-B. Let me see: they're worried about possible job losses, cost cutting, less philanthropic activity, and the future of Grant's Farm, so they stop buying Anheuser-Busch products? Puhleeze. I gave up Stella Artois and Beck's, but I won't ever give up A-B products. It isn't like I ever bought them for their CEO's charming personality anyway, so at least that hasn't changed. I want the powers-that-be in Belgium to know the loyalty that many Americans feel for A-B, even though that loyalty had no chance in hell against $70 per share, I suppose.

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Doug wrote:Support local business. Drink Schlafly.


yeah that's great but don't abandon Budweiser either, there are still thousands of St. Louisans employed by the brewery and we don't want the new company to have a reason to cut them.

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Doug wrote:Support local business. Drink Schlafly.
Just where do they brew Budweiser, Doug? And who brews it? In St. Louis by St. Louisans, perhaps? This type of thinking is a bit short-sighted to say the least.

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PostJul 14, 2008#350

The company will be called Anheuser-Busch InBev - at least for now. Budweiser supposedly will be the flagship brand of InBev. AB is a tremendous asset for InBev. I wouldn't be surprised if St. Louis is eventually made the global HQ's - especially if local politicians, leaders and AB executives push for it.

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