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In response, you can never have enough cute girls, of any race/ethnicity, in this city.



I'm not a huge fan of exclusivity by anyone. I love that people are proud of their culture/heritage, but at the same time the introduction of others into their culture/heritage will help everyone to understand and appreciate our differences.

^ Agreed, Trent.



It's one thing to be diverse, it's another to be inclusive. I hope to see more diversity in St. Louis, but in the long run we need more events, more venues, and hang-outs that are inclusive of anyone and everyone. Of course groups do need their own spaces at times and there's nothing wrong with that; but to get beyond our two standpoints (black/white and local/outsider) -- inclusion (by whites AND by minority groups) will be essential.



I do think we're getting there... it's just a slow evolution.

I agree with you photoaddict. Clearly attracting more young asians to stay in St. Louis City would be healthy for the growth of St. Louis. Again, free houses for any Wash U grads that stay in St. Louis. Doesn't the LRA own thousands?

^reutilization

Olive Blvd sucks ass.

Juice13610 wrote:Olive Blvd sucks ass.

I wouldn't say the Mongolians should tear it down, but it's certainly no South Grand.

throatybeard wrote:

Juice13610 wrote:Olive Blvd sucks ass.

I wouldn't say the Mongolians should tear it down, but it's certainly no South Grand.

I do like Mongolian BBQ. Can it be had in St. Louis? Ain't nothing like traditional Mongolian cuisine to soothe the soul.

Doug wrote:Isn't luring business from one suburb to the City zero sum for the region?



Whenever a municipality steals business from the City we decry it, but in this case it's acceptable?



That's inconsistent.

i think they're saying olive blvd doesn't thrive as a chinese neighborhood as much as it could due to its suburban design. u know, as compared to china town in San Fran, NYC or something.

Doug wrote:^Well I agree. I think it's a pathetic Chinatown. I've never seen San Fran's, but Chicago's is what we should strive for, and if we didn't demolish Hop Alley, could currently have.



But still, relocating the Chinese from suburbs to St. Louis will come at the economic expense of University City. That's regionally zero sum. If we want to attract say Chinese from another City then that's different. Or actually attract native Chinese, even better. But again we destroyed their community not very long ago. Have they forgotten?

I hope one day the Chinese/Asians will packup from U-City setup a Chinatown in Chesterfield or somewhere in West County. I hate University City's arrogance towards us and it doesn't seem that they care about the Chinese operating businesses in their city. They don't encourage more Chinese to open businesses there and give them a hard time to get business licenses and such. I AM Chinese and this is why I registered my business in Maplewood! I can't stand U-City and their backwards politics against anyone with their shortsightedness. I hear from many Chinese people here that many African Americans in U-City are afraid of Chinese and Asians pushing them out of their neighborhoods and businesses. They see Chinese and Asians as a threat to their community. Last year U-City even blocked a Chinese developer from California that wanted to buy and redevelop that old Target building on Olive and turn it into an Asian themed mall, that place currently has a Food4Less and soon to be added Burlington Ghetto Coat Factory. A lost opportunity to promote that area and bring tourism and business from outside the region IMO.



Las Vegas and Austin have nice examples of new Chinatowns that aren't disorganized like Olive's.



Besides, most Chinese don't live near that part of Olive, if any. Most of them live in West County i.e. Ballwin, Creve Coeur, Chesterfield, or Maryland Heights. The reason they setup businesses there is that the buildings are affordable and its a centralized location for a Chinatown.



Here is the translation to phoaddicts speech in Chinese for those who are wondering what this means:



?????????????? = I am very happy Chinese people like our city.

^ That's a rather odd opinion for someone on urbanstl.com to have. I'm sure your opinion that something should move from the inner-ring to a west county craphole will sit well here.



I forgot though, you are the same person that called Olive Blvd "dangerous" at night.

phoaddict wrote:You have to BE KIDDING ME!!!! OMG that makes my blood boil so much.



SCREW THEM. If they want to live in the land of ignorance and retardation, let them. The chinese should stick it to them. Screw those selfish ignorant bastards. Let them be blind and let their ignorance bite them in the ass.



Im SO sick of this insane ignorance of some st. louisans. WAKE UP and get with the world. How dumb do you have to be to refuse such a development...that's purely racist and blatantly retarded, and I can't see a logical explanation for why the development was refused. Talk about stuck in 1980...(burlington coat factory???)



I DONT think the chinese should set up a chinatown in Chesterfield, but if that's who helps them, then so be it. Screw these codgers. I'm f***ing sick of the old st. louis mentality black and white. f*** ignorance. The chinese shouldn't take that... and should move. But i think they should move into the city to a more urban/compact walkable area. Please check out this area

^ Maybe next time you shouldn't sugarcoat things.

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How dumb do you have to be to refuse such a development...that's purely racist and blatantly retarded, and I can't see a logical explanation for why the development was refused. Talk about stuck in 1980...(burlington coat factory???)



well they contacted Po Folks, Jacks or Better, and Venture but none of them returned their calls for some reason.



Sorry, just had to add some levity to the discussion