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^I know, I know. I'm getting ready to pack my bags now.

There was also a large wooden frame staked into the front lawn. It looks like this may be for a building permit. Very disturbing to see.



What is this city coming to?

Anyone know when actual construction will start? Are they going to wait for spring. I walked by there yesterday, the trailer they were using for pre-sales is gone, with the sales center moving to a pretty cool office next to Bar Italia, but there's no construction stuff at the site.

New signage up on site today - very nice!

Looks like consrtuction will start anytime here.

When does construction start?

The bulldozers have arrived...

Excellent. I'll stop by and take pics when I'm at the Park East.

That last photo is excellant. Can't wait for the hole to be filled in between the other highrises! Its nice to see the older buildings happily co-existing with the modern highrise at Taylor, and of course, soon a big new one at Euclid. You see, we CAN all get along.

Can someone name the existing buildings as shown in the last photo for me? Is the first one the Park Royal? Just curious, what is missing? What happened to it?



I love the names of apartment buildings and hotels.

That would be the President, the Park Royal, the Monticello, Tramore Castle, and I believe the old one at the end is un-named. The modern tower on the end is Lindell Terrace.

Expat wrote:Can someone name the existing buildings as shown in the last photo for me? Is the first one the Park Royal? Just curious, what is missing? What happened to it?



I love the names of apartment buildings and hotels.

Expat,



If you are asking what happened to the building where 4545 is to be built. The answer is, well, nothing. At least not in the last 80 years or so as I undrerstand it. There was a grand old house there (a mansion of similar granduer to many lost on that stretch, I suppose) that was demolished when the other high-rises were built. The only remant is a large carriage house (to be demolished) at the rear of the site that has 2 or 3 living units. It has been a non-descript sliver of parking screened by vegetation that most people never even noticed until this project was proposed -- including myself. I designed the former iteration of 4545 Lindell while at Suttle Mindlin that was proposed a few years ago so I am more than familiar with the site. For a myriad of reasons that did not get built. However, the version that Conrad (designed by Lou Sauer) is building is remarkably similar. I am just thrilled to see this project get built. I thought it might have been yet another dream of mine that stayed on paper. At least the ideas survive...

Thanks Gasm for the names. It bothers me that some of the names are fading in my memory. At one time, I knew the names of most substantial buildings in STL. Old age is cruel.



Yes, Cityboy, I was curious about the empty lot. Strange that I never noticed it before. I am with you, really glad to see this new building go up. It looks wonderful.

Work on the site is finally progressing, I walked by today and saw them tearing down the old carriage house that stood on the back of the property. It's all rubble now, so it shouldn't be too long before we start to see some construction.

Here is an updated rendering of the project showing a few more details...

Definately one of the most visualy appealing buildings in the metro area, IMO.

I don't understand why that stretch of Lindell is so set back from the street and not like NYC or Chicago. It's weird that the OPUS building for Lindell and Euclid stops before the corner and even has a half circle drive! I mean should that be tolerated? Maybe the setback goes back to the Lindell mansions that existed and reusing the foundation.

I doubt any foundations were reused. They wouldn't be substantial enough. But the setback could have something to do with the traditional mansion setback. I have often wondered about that too. I kind of like the setback, but the stretch would be even more urban with the buildings right up to the street.

I'm with you on thinking the circle drive at Lindell Condos is an asinine idea, but I really like the setback. The stately buildings on the 4500 block of Lindell present a great vista from the street, and are plenty lively to walk by as well. I hope the Lindell Condominiums respect the setback from Lindell, as long as they provide a vibrant retail facade right up to Euclid. That's really going to be a cool block, with all the high rises from different eras mixed together. Even as it is now it's one of my favorite areas in town. (Maybe because I live there, two doors down from 4545)

I like the setback. It's different, and makes Lindell a very unique street complete with highrises that have front yards. Only in St. Louis.

^^Yeah, what he said!



St. Louis has always mixed traditional urbanity with a little bit of green.

The way they designed the building makes it look almost deranged and like a mixed up puzzle. I really like that design.

I like this new building a lot, but I wish it had more of a base. It seems to kind of float, rather than rise out of the ground. And I like the setback. IMO, maintaining the building line is critical to a cityscape.