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PostMay 25, 2007#151

I love the building, but I'm sick of the sandstone color on everything. Why couldn't the middle 'column' be a different color? What this scrap left over from a WU medical building? Or perhaps the Park East?

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PostMay 25, 2007#152

It could have been a different color. If you were the architect, you could have selected whatever color you wanted (pending client approval, of course...)

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PostMay 25, 2007#153

:lol: and I would have gone with Grover Purple Silhouette

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PostMay 25, 2007#154

Perfect!

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PostMay 26, 2007#155

As others have noted, it topped out early this week, and they took down the big white tower-crane today. I have to say, it's a cool building, but when you compare it to the 75-80 year old apartment buildings on either side, 4545 looks a bit drab.

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PostMay 27, 2007#156

please show me how you could rebuild the 1920's highrises with all their intricate detail, etc. and make a PROFIT on the development.

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PostMay 27, 2007#157

^ I don't think that's the point, but there are new buildings going up that are very, very cool AND work in the market. New buildings don't have to be drab. I think the finish just doesn't look top notch. Maybe with all the components in and plants hanging off the balcony it will look smooth.

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PostMay 28, 2007#158

JCity wrote:please show me how you could rebuild the 1920's highrises with all their intricate detail, etc. and make a PROFIT on the development.


Hire non-union workers?

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PostMay 29, 2007#159

I think it is a great looking building and turning out nicely. I love the venerable old apartment buildings on Lindell, but it is nice to have a new one with big balconies and big windows. In my opinion, this building is especially attractive because it doesn't have a big base to spoil it. That helps it line up nicely with its neighbors. A handsome addition to Lindell.

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PostMay 30, 2007#160

This name-calling and utter disregard for what this forum should be about (Urban St. Louis) has got to stop. I know it's a big job, but can people be warned and then blocked?







Look - the impact of Unions could be debated until the end of time (I'm praying this doesn't happen on this forum). There are examples of non-union quality jobs being created in the US - Toyota and Honda production facilities to name just two. I'm tempted to go on, but I'll stop.

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PostMay 30, 2007#161

The Union thing has been beaten to death on this forum, please no more.

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PostMay 30, 2007#162

Apparently you cant joke or be sarcastic on this forum without offending SOMEONE...

PostMay 30, 2007#163

Im offended that MizzouTigerGuy pointlessly brought Dubya's name into the discussion. Totally unnecessary. Rant. Rant. Rant. Blah blah blah...

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PostMay 30, 2007#164

wheelscomp wrote:Im offended that MizzouTigerGuy pointlessly brought Dubya's name into the discussion.


It's no mystery that Bush is anti-union. I think good union construction is exactly what is needed to make the Lindell high rise a successful project. Non-union construction tends to be inferior in quality to that done by union labor.

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PostMay 30, 2007#165

^^^For the love of god can we just give it a rest and get back to discussing development on this forum. This is exactally why the no political discussion rule needs to enforced brutally once again.

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PostMay 30, 2007#166

Although this, too, is OT, I'd like to make a suggestion:



Maybe we should create a separate section where non-development issues can be discussed. If a thread starts to get OT, those posts can get moved to the new section. That way, those who like to talk politics, religion, whatever with their fellow STLurbanites can do so without blocking the main point of this board, information. Cuz face it, a lot of us post useless distracting things on this forum b/c we like the forum and its members, and often don't really have anything useful or important to add, so it's the best we can do.



So what do you say mods? I think it's the best way to keep the majority of the board directed towards development news, and still allow people to talk when there really isn't any development news to talk about.

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PostMay 30, 2007#167

It's already there. That's what the Urban Living Section is for

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PostMay 30, 2007#168

I thought the urban living section was for general discussion about living in the city of St. Louis, not abstract discussion or debates about unions, national politics, tax policy, and economics. Or a word association game. How is that withing the province of "urban living?"

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PostMay 30, 2007#169

Basically, we didn't want to create another section, so it's pretty much the catch all. But I think we'll discuss other options.

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PostMay 31, 2007#170

Expat wrote:I think it is a great looking building and turning out nicely. I love the venerable old apartment buildings on Lindell, but it is nice to have a new one with big balconies and big windows. In my opinion, this building is especially attractive because it doesn't have a big base to spoil it. That helps it line up nicely with its neighbors. A handsome addition to Lindell.
I agree. I thought it was going to look simple at first, but it actually looks like a "high design" to me. Very unique and classy. I especially like the color of the brick. A great addition to the strip.

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PostMay 31, 2007#171

any pics of the building that was there before?

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PostMay 31, 2007#172

^ Good question - there hasn't been anything there for at least four years . . . BTW, I don't see any brick on this building, just stucco and glass. I'm witholding any additional judgement for a year or so to see how it 'settles in'.

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PostMay 31, 2007#173

bpe235 wrote:any pics of the building that was there before?


The only thing on that site for a good long while was the carriage house to a long-demolished old mansion. It was torn down just prior to construction of 4545.

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PostMay 31, 2007#174

Grover wrote:BTW, I don't see any brick on this building, just stucco and glass.
After doing some research on the building's materials. The tan-colored material is neither brick nor stucco. It's precast concrete.

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PostMay 31, 2007#175

^ True - good call.

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