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regardless of whether past developments have used walk-up units or not, their feature here is impressive and showing of the true urban form so many on this site praise. I don't get the hate for lux here: this is the most attractive, innovative proposal this region has seen since studio gang's one hundred and would redefine what adaptive reuse means in a city that isn't all too familiar with the concept (pain). Additionally, it shows the strength our preservation board holds and should hold and displays how committed lux is to bettering this city's built environment in their pushing for a project that they would hardly turn a profit on. Fantastic job by all parties here to craft a strong proposal catering to the needs of everyone following the initial rejection (which I was in favor of). 

I understand their frustrating history and their, for lack of a better term, shady dealings, but I know a great proposal when I see one and am looking past their negative association to see a compelled developer who we know gets their projects done. Thank you for sharing, Chris.

It meets my approval " OMG Clutch my pearls he actually likes some new overpriced junk??!!"

It really is an incredible proposal that ticks all of the boxes. Sure hope that this happens!!

Also a CWE resident and think this looks great.  An excellent reboot, to be sure.  

My only gripe is the awkward mix of white and beige. I'd rather it be all white.

I like reading the comments here, but I encourage you, like Michael Allen did a page earlier, to send those comments to Deneen Funk, the Preservation Board secretary: FunkD@stlouis-mo.gov. They do mean a lot. Even if there are some people who are just reading and not commenting, you can love it or hate it, but your comments are worth something.

The brains of this version are those of the designers assigned to this at HOK. I was just in the background learning and occasionally commenting on what could be better with it and why. It might sound boring, but it was fun. 

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Jun 22, 2022

The brains of this version are those of the designers assigned to this at HOK. I was just in the background learning and occasionally commenting on what could be better with it and why. It might sound boring, but it was fun. 

That is a very valuable experience, and not boring at all.

They really knocked it out of the park with this one.

imran wrote: ↑

Jun 22, 2022

The Orion also has a few walk-up apartment units along West Pine.

So now there's two apartment buildings I know of with them. I forgot Expo had them and I never realized Orion did (I never walk down that block of West Pine for whatever reason). Still though, it's a nice feature that should be included in more buildings in more places around town. I'd actually prefer to live in a unit like this instead of using an interior corridor. It could feel more like a little row house at that point.

That type of unit is known as a "maisonette".

(I love that word for some reason, so I throw it out whenever I get the chance)

framer wrote: ↑

Jun 23, 2022

That type of unit is known as a "maisonette".

(I love that word for some reason, so I throw it out whenever I get the chance)

Sounds swanky.

While I understand their perspective, the level of scrutiny they are practicing for this development seems very unusual. Does anyone remember what happened with the San Luis? 

First time ever 100% praise? Haha, I'll take a stab at it. Would've been nice to see the tower be taller, at least meeting Jackson Arms height. But I'll give this a 99.5%. Always had a huge soft spot for that building as Optimist gave me a small but very nice scholarship for university. Was mortified when there was talk of demo. Well done to all the folks that made this happen. Time to rid developers' indolent mindset in this region. 

Bravo, thanks Chris!

I went to the optimist today; he said I don't need glasses.  

StlToday - Developer tries again at redevelopment of historic Optimist site in Central West End

https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... b763f.html

Is there a direct link to the meeting?


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dbehrens011 wrote: ↑

Jun 27, 2022

Is there a direct link to the meeting?


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https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87249450952?p ... gGI_UWm5.1

Motion was to accept the staff Recommendation to deny approval

yes votes- Allen, Killeen, Callow
No- Coatar and Robinson

Richardson came late, didn't vote
Hamilton wasn't there
2 unfilled slots

All I'll say is... we tried. A lot of people liked it, even when you remove me and Hudson residents, but at the end of the day, we don't get to vote on this. At this time, the next steps are unclear.