I don't know about this project specifically, but I know the city's new land use plan is pushing for mid-rise and high-rise development in this corridor.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Jun 11, 2024Heard from a person with knowledge that this empty lot will be a 12(ish) story apartment building, feeding off the foundry/SLU environment.
Anyone else?
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Permits for that project have been cancelled, building permit was cancelled last week
The demand is there. The Central West End is one of the few areas of the metro that actually has health growth.Tim wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024Just wondering if this is pulling students away from north of the university along Lindell, such as Coronado Place? Or is there enough demand for both to succeed? Somewhat relatedly, the Moolah Theater closed a while back, and I can only assume that development south of the university, such as The Foundry (and it's new movie theater), may be having some influence. What are all y'alls thoughts?
That's good for the city.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024^ I would assume its demand:
**"Saint Louis University’s official fall census is in, and the numbers are impressive. SLU has enrolled 8,437 undergraduates and 5,109 graduate/professional students for the fall 2022 semester — a total of 13,546 students, the largest enrollment at the University since 2012."
**"The year 2023 saw SLU grow to its largest total enrollment in history — more than 15,200 students — thanks in large part to a surge in international student enrollment. The driving force behind the dramatic increase in international enrollment is SLU’s innovative Global Graduate initiative, which launched three years ago and has grown increasingly successful each year, including welcoming more than 1,400 new international graduate students to campus in the fall."
Agreed! ..and it kind of makes me think how nice it would be if that trend line were able to continue... and if it would be worth it for the city to help fuel that growth. Especially the international enrollment knowing it means increased housing demand on campus. Imagining a Mizzou (30K) sized enrollment in midtown would be so much fun.goat314 wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024That's good for the city.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024^ I would assume its demand:
**"Saint Louis University’s official fall census is in, and the numbers are impressive. SLU has enrolled 8,437 undergraduates and 5,109 graduate/professional students for the fall 2022 semester — a total of 13,546 students, the largest enrollment at the University since 2012."
**"The year 2023 saw SLU grow to its largest total enrollment in history — more than 15,200 students — thanks in large part to a surge in international student enrollment. The driving force behind the dramatic increase in international enrollment is SLU’s innovative Global Graduate initiative, which launched three years ago and has grown increasingly successful each year, including welcoming more than 1,400 new international graduate students to campus in the fall."
It would be alot like Minneapolis and St. Paul with the University Of Minnesota. Game changer for myriad reasons.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024Agreed! ..and it kind of makes me think how nice it would be if that trend line were able to continue... and if it would be worth it for the city to help fuel that growth. Especially the international enrollment knowing it means increased housing demand on campus. Imagining a Mizzou (30K) sized enrollment in midtown would be so much fun.goat314 wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024That's good for the city.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024^ I would assume its demand:
**"Saint Louis University’s official fall census is in, and the numbers are impressive. SLU has enrolled 8,437 undergraduates and 5,109 graduate/professional students for the fall 2022 semester — a total of 13,546 students, the largest enrollment at the University since 2012."
**"The year 2023 saw SLU grow to its largest total enrollment in history — more than 15,200 students — thanks in large part to a surge in international student enrollment. The driving force behind the dramatic increase in international enrollment is SLU’s innovative Global Graduate initiative, which launched three years ago and has grown increasingly successful each year, including welcoming more than 1,400 new international graduate students to campus in the fall."
Yes, the University of Minnesota is a game changer for Minneapolis. It would be like having Mizzou on Jefferson and Market. Total gamechanger. Cities with large flagship public universities and/or state capitals always do well. Look at Seattle with University of Washington, Columbus with Ohio State, University of Texas with Austin, etc. Georgia Tech and the slew of HBCUs in downtown Atlanta is also a big standout. I really wish UMSL was downtown, I think that would have done wonders for St. Louis. It is interesting though that St. Louis' two largest univeristies are both private schools. It would be awesome if we leaned more into Harris Stowe as a HBCU, would do wonders for growing and retaining a black professional class which is one of the most underrated growth strategies nobody ever talks about. Make St. Louis more appealing to college educated black people and St. Louis is literally a growing region again, DC, Atlanta, Charlotte, Texas, etc. have done wonders with that strategy. The University of Cincinnati has 50,000 students. Could you imagine what Midtown would look like if SLU had 50,000 students? Also a lot of students stay a few years after graduation, which help bolster the area.STLAPTS wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024It would be alot like Minneapolis and St. Paul with the University Of Minnesota. Game changer for myriad reasons.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024Agreed! ..and it kind of makes me think how nice it would be if that trend line were able to continue... and if it would be worth it for the city to help fuel that growth. Especially the international enrollment knowing it means increased housing demand on campus. Imagining a Mizzou (30K) sized enrollment in midtown would be so much fun.goat314 wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024That's good for the city.
Also, not a huge deal, but with the city being starved for football since the Rams exit... a growing NCAA football program in the area would be a huge hit in addition to XFL. I'm honestly... equally impressed and a little surprised SLU hasn't dipped their toes into that vacancy...goat314 wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024Yes, the University of Minnesota is a game changer for Minneapolis. It would be like having Mizzou on Jefferson and Market. Total gamechanger. Cities with large flagship public universities and/or state capitals always do well. Look at Seattle with University of Washington, Columbus with Ohio State, University of Texas with Austin, etc. Georgia Tech and the slew of HBCUs in downtown Atlanta is also a big standout. I really wish UMSL was downtown, I think that would have done wonders for St. Louis. It is interesting though that St. Louis' two largest univeristies are both private schools. It would be awesome if we leaned more into Harris Stowe as a HBCU, would do wonders for growing and retaining a black professional class which is one of the most underrated growth strategies nobody ever talks about. Make St. Louis more appealing to college educated black people and St. Louis is literally a growing region again, DC, Atlanta, Charlotte, Texas, etc. have done wonders with that strategy. The University of Cincinnati has 50,000 students. Could you imagine what Midtown would look like if SLU had 50,000 students? Also a lot of students stay a few years after graduation, which help bolster the area.STLAPTS wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024It would be alot like Minneapolis and St. Paul with the University Of Minnesota. Game changer for myriad reasons.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jun 12, 2024Agreed! ..and it kind of makes me think how nice it would be if that trend line were able to continue... and if it would be worth it for the city to help fuel that growth. Especially the international enrollment knowing it means increased housing demand on campus. Imagining a Mizzou (30K) sized enrollment in midtown would be so much fun.
Agreed. I’m not sure I get the appeal of living at that intersection with the highway nearby and FPP + Vandeventer being quite harrowing.quincunx wrote:IDK, the loads of car danger, air, and noise pollution, and a view of the IKEA parking lot are a downer. Some nice things close by are a plus.
