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PostApr 19, 2020#26

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Plans are still being worked on. We should have renderings soon. 300 units is significant but don't expect it to bring any significant height. The site is large. Expect a 4-5 floor building. Definitely no more than 6 floors. I hope they include some sort of retail space here. Based on what we know, this will be a great addition no matter what.

I don't believe this is in a preservation review district, so if they wanted a modern design, they could probably go with that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. 
Rendering to be released tomorrow as well as updated unit count. I quite like the design of the building and I think you will all too. One bit of beans to spill: 6 floors.

PostApr 19, 2020#27

The SoHo...

Some data...
- 6-stories
- 320-Units
- Parking hidden by building
- Includes retail space
- Modern design
- VE Design Group is the architect
- Construction currently set to begin in Q3 2020 with demolition on Broadway Ford Truck Sales.

The recent sales of Steelyard, Ice House, and Tribeca will help fund this project. Those 3 sales combined totaled close to $90 Million in extra money for STLCityWide/LuxLiving. Overall, I like the design. It's a great looking project and I'm happy they've gone with a more modern design.

One thing that I think is interesting to note is that this is larger than One Hundred and One Cardinal Way. It practically beats all new apartment projects in St. Louis in terms of unit count,


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PostApr 19, 2020#28

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The SoHo...
Great! So much going for this project. Although they should have gone with SoChou instead of SoHo. 

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PostApr 19, 2020#29

Nice. I'm glad they're going modern. 

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PostApr 19, 2020#30

i'm fine with modern but it's really ugly.

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PostApr 20, 2020#31

Disagree completely.  I like this look and am glad to see some more of this style pop up around the city.

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PostApr 20, 2020#32

^ to each their own. i'm just not a fan of these randomly generated material combinations covered with randomly placed protruding boxes in lieu of thoughtful, refined architectural details. 😉 though, i do like the corner with all the glass and the S-shaped thingy. that looks nice. still bothered that they're naming all their STL projects after NYC neighborhoods, however. that's just dumb.

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PostApr 20, 2020#33

I don't mind the design. I'd like to see 4 or 5 more new construction of similar quality in the CBD. Especially between here and the stadium.

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PostApr 20, 2020#34

I like it.  It will add some flair to an area that could use some.  Plus anything that works towards building a better connection between downtown and Soulard is welcome.  But I think u_d is on to something when he says:
"i'm just not a fan of these randomly generated material combinations covered with randomly placed protruding boxes in lieu of thoughtful, refined architectural details."
I think this one works well because of the colors...if it was that bright multi-colored bullsh*t I think it would look a lot worse.

Totally agree about the name, I don't get all the NYC names for STL.  SoChou is great or maybe SöLa (pronounced SouLa, like Soulard).  Or at least cop San Francisco's SoMa...this project is at least south of Market Street.

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PostApr 20, 2020#35

Supposedly now, SoHo means “Soulard Home”.

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PostApr 20, 2020#36

How about So-So. 😆 just kidding. I actually don’t mind the design. Pretty run-of-the-mill for modern urban apartment buildings, but St Louis has relatively few of these compared to Denver, Minneapolis, Austin, etc, so I don’t think we have to worry about it compromising the character of the neighborhood or anything, especially in this location.

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PostApr 21, 2020#37

^It's technically outside the historic district anyway, but given the Social House, the Brewer Gear Buildings, and what it will be replacing getting something modern instead of faux historic is fine with me. I used to occasionally make the walk from the southern end of Soulard to Busch and getting any activity on the stretch is a great start. 

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PostApr 22, 2020#38

Business Journal article for "SoHo":
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... WOw4gIwfrA
The city's Land Clearance for Redevelopment Authority will recommend the Board of Aldermen approve developer LuxLiving's ask of tax abatement of 10 years at 95% and a sales tax exemption on construction materials, which would be facilitated through industrial revenue bonds up to $40 million. It's not clear when the Board of Aldermen will review the project. 

LuxLiving, led by Vic Alston, is proposing to build a 320-unit market rate apartment development, called SoHo, at 1501 S. Seventh St., just on the Soulard and Kosciusko neighborhood border, for more than $68 million. It would also feature a 330-space garage and 5,600 square feet of commercial space when it comes online in 2021.
There were more than 2,500 apartment units under construction across the St. Louis region at the end of 2019, nearly a third of which is being built in the city of St. Louis. The metro area ended the year with a 95.6% occupancy rate and an average rental rate of $962, according to the latest available data from Colliers.

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PostApr 22, 2020#39

sc4mayor wrote:
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Business Journal article for "SoHo":
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... WOw4gIwfrA
The city's Land Clearance for Redevelopment Authority will recommend the Board of Aldermen approve developer LuxLiving's ask of tax abatement of 10 years at 95% and a sales tax exemption on construction materials, which would be facilitated through industrial revenue bonds up to $40 million. It's not clear when the Board of Aldermen will review the project. 

LuxLiving, led by Vic Alston, is proposing to build a 320-unit market rate apartment development, called SoHo, at 1501 S. Seventh St., just on the Soulard and Kosciusko neighborhood border, for more than $68 million. It would also feature a 330-space garage and 5,600 square feet of commercial space when it comes online in 2021.
There were more than 2,500 apartment units under construction across the St. Louis region at the end of 2019, nearly a third of which is being built in the city of St. Louis. The metro area ended the year with a 95.6% occupancy rate and an average rental rate of $962, according to the latest available data from Colliers.
Am I correct in thinking that the construction materials sales tax exemption was couched as something truly exceptional until fairly recently? I feel like as recently as the One Hundred abatement approval the inclusion of the sales tax exemption was described in terms of "this is SUCH an important and instrumental project to the entire neighborhood, the entire City really, that it is deserving in this extraordinary instance of the additional sacrifice of taxpayer dollars." But just in the last couple years it seems to have become almost standard.  

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PostApr 23, 2020#40

^I think it's been around for quite a while. Also, the term "construction materials" has also been broadly defined to include interior finishes and furnishings.  

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PostApr 23, 2020#41

chriss752 wrote:
Apr 19, 2020
The SoHo...

Some data...
- 6-stories
- 320-Units
- Parking hidden by building
- Includes retail space
- Modern design
- VE Design Group is the architect
- Construction currently set to begin in Q3 2020 with demolition on Broadway Ford Truck Sales.

The recent sales of Steelyard, Ice House, and Tribeca will help fund this project. Those 3 sales combined totaled close to $90 Million in extra money for STLCityWide/LuxLiving. Overall, I like the design. It's a great looking project and I'm happy they've gone with a more modern design.

One thing that I think is interesting to note is that this is larger than One Hundred and One Cardinal Way. It practically beats all new apartment projects in St. Louis in terms of unit count,

It's fine if built like the rendering.  My concern is that much of that indirect lighting and those doodads that add the texture will get lost in VE land, and we'll be left with a more or less flat surface...

And I want to know if the side facing the highway will get similar materials, or if it's going to be like their other projects.

Re: The name.  They should have gone with DUFFO - Down Under the Fifty Five Overpass (or Forty Four if you prefer)

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PostApr 23, 2020#42

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And I want to know if the side facing the highway will get similar materials, or if it's going to be like their other projects.
I would expect the highway facing side to be a bit simpler. Not like their other projects but won't look like the 7th Street side. That will be the most prominent side. The other 3 will be far simpler.

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PostApr 23, 2020#43

Chroma renderings depicted those same light-up strips on the facade. Don't think they made it. 

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PostJul 31, 2020#44

$2.6M building permit application submitted for the parking garage.

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PostJul 31, 2020#45

wow... some movement. Was not expecting this to pan out. I'm glad it is moving along though. This area has so much potential considering its smack dab in the middle between Soulard and Busch.

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PostJul 31, 2020#46

^ Agreed, this is a big one too. Might not have much height, but more units that One Cardinal Way.

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PostJul 31, 2020#47

There's some utility work happening behind the site near the highway and Park Avenue. I've seen photos of the prefab parking garage pieces being made and ready to go. This will be a great project for this area.

As sc4mayor said, this project has more units than OCW but it also has more than 100 Above the Park (305 units there). This will be the largest new construction apartment building in the City of St. Louis or maybe the entire region. It's a monster but it's one that will be transformative to this part of Soulard and will help bridge the gap between Downtown and Soulard.

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PostAug 03, 2020#48

Great to hear this is still moving forward.  As someone who lives in the area and has made countless treks to and from Busch/Old Rock House/4 Hands/etc. this will be a very welcome addition.

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PostAug 03, 2020#49

EssTeeEll wrote:
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Great to hear this is still moving forward.  As someone who lives in the area and has made countless treks to and from Busch/Old Rock House/4 Hands/etc. this will be a very welcome addition.
Agreed. I lived in Soulard when I first moved to St Louis and worked downtown. Naively, I thought "oh great, it's a short walk to work". That lasted for about 2 weeks. The walk is short, but far from pleasant.

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PostAug 03, 2020#50

kipfilet wrote:
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EssTeeEll wrote:
Aug 03, 2020
Great to hear this is still moving forward.  As someone who lives in the area and has made countless treks to and from Busch/Old Rock House/4 Hands/etc. this will be a very welcome addition.
Agreed. I lived in Soulard when I first moved to St Louis and worked downtown. Naively, I thought "oh great, it's a short walk to work". That lasted for about 2 weeks. The walk is short, but far from pleasant.
I make the walk about 4-5 times a week, nothing really wrong with it. it goes through an industrial area, about what youd expect 

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