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You should travel to Houston or really anywhere in Texas. They have worse versions of this project everywhere and their cities seems just fine.alexstl wrote: ↑Aug 11, 2022I feel like density doesn't have to be awkward and out of scale. There are plenty of other townhouse projects in the CWE that blend into the neighborhood completely fine.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Aug 10, 2022I.... like this building? Sure it's fairly odd compared to its surroundings, but that could be solved by building another 2-3 of these in the empty lot next door. STL needs more dense little infill projects like this.
People can move to a planned community if they want to live in a area that “blends” with its surroundings.alexstl wrote:I feel like density doesn't have to be awkward and out of scale. There are plenty of other townhouse projects in the CWE that blend into the neighborhood completely fine.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Aug 10, 2022I.... like this building? Sure it's fairly odd compared to its surroundings, but that could be solved by building another 2-3 of these in the empty lot next door. STL needs more dense little infill projects like this.
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I mean if Lux Living is involved I worry how well built these are but they are for sale, not for rent so maybe they won't be as shoddy.
Anyway, I like these actually. Also, I think they compare favorably to the several postmodern townhouse complexes in the Central West End. Like 4235 West Pine just to the west, 4444 Lindell, 4453 West Pine, 4525 Laclede, etc. This one adds density to a narrow lot without sacrificing street activation the way those do, there's no curb cut either.
Anyway, I like these actually. Also, I think they compare favorably to the several postmodern townhouse complexes in the Central West End. Like 4235 West Pine just to the west, 4444 Lindell, 4453 West Pine, 4525 Laclede, etc. This one adds density to a narrow lot without sacrificing street activation the way those do, there's no curb cut either.
Fine Richard, I'm stupid, you win. https://westvillage-stl.com/team/
Think you’d be hard-pressed to find a US community that has not been planned - granted some more poorly than others.Mapguy wrote: ↑Aug 11, 2022People can move to a planned community if they want to live in a area that “blends” with its surroundings.alexstl wrote:I feel like density doesn't have to be awkward and out of scale. There are plenty of other townhouse projects in the CWE that blend into the neighborhood completely fine.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Aug 10, 2022I.... like this building? Sure it's fairly odd compared to its surroundings, but that could be solved by building another 2-3 of these in the empty lot next door. STL needs more dense little infill projects like this.
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Jk aside, setback and proportion rules don’t immediately = cookie cutter blandness.
Jeez y'all can I just say I dislike the way a building looks without being passive-aggressively accused of NIMBYism with smug comments? Yes, I'm aware density is good for neighborhoods and that Saint Louis should be building more housing, I just don't care for these townhouses.