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Wells Fargo Campus Development

Wells Fargo Campus Development

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PostOct 26, 2018#1

I think most associate Wells Fargo with Downtown but it's technically in Midtown so I'm placing this here.  From today's paper, it appears that Wells Fargo is emptying out two of it's older buildings and placing more employees in the other buildings around their campus.  It also sounds like hundreds of more jobs are coming too and St. Louis is likely to continue to play a big roll for Wells Fargo for the foreseeable future.  Could be an opportunity to finally redevelop the corner of Jefferson and Market into something resembling a city.

https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... e2d44.html

Edit: 5/22, changed thread title.

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PostOct 26, 2018#2

It would be really nice to see some streetscape retail retrofit on their campus. Especially with all of the changes going on on each side of Jefferson just to the north and the changes going on on Locust.
Another odd thing about their campus, there's a ground level passageway / gateway in their building that aligns with Pine St even though Pine never extended west of Jefferson. I wonder if they planned a driveway there and never put it in. Would be a cool continuation of the street grid if the connected Pine to Beaumont there. Preferably as mostly pedestrian brick lane like Beaumont is.
A few years ago I talked to a guy that worked there and said that the brutalist building nearest Market & Jefferson has been vacant for a while and needs asbestos abatement. Not sure how much truth there is/was to that but that building does seem kind of sleepy when I pass by.

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PostOct 26, 2018#3

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It would be really nice to see some streetscape retail retrofit on their campus. Especially with all of the changes going on on each side of Jefferson just to the north and the changes going on on Locust.
Another odd thing about their campus, there's a ground level passageway / gateway in their building that aligns with Pine St even though Pine never extended west of Jefferson. I wonder if they planned a driveway there and never put it in. Would be a cool continuation of the street grid if the connected Pine to Beaumont there. Preferably as mostly pedestrian brick lane like Beaumont is.
A few years ago I talked to a guy that worked there and said that the brutalist building nearest Market & Jefferson has been vacant for a while and needs asbestos abatement. Not sure how much truth there is/was to that but that building does seem kind of sleepy when I pass by.
Bright minds think alike lol. After reading the article this morning I opened up Google Earth and was looking over what I'd change about their campus and just about everything you said was what I had thought of. It does appear that Pine moves a bit west of Jefferson but then stops at what looks like some HVAC stuff. I'd love to see Pine extended through and I think their garages, especially the one at Olive and Jefferson would be a prime place for some retail expansion on the first floor. I'd like to see some of those surface lots built on too. WF has a massive garage across Market that could likely absorb some of that surface parking.

Those two on the northwest corner of Jefferson and Market are the two they are vacating, and if the asbestos issue is true then hopefully they'll just knock them down and then maybe a hotelier could put a distinctive hotel and conference center that WF would surely use (and maybe even some future soccer fans).

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PostOct 26, 2018#4

I've always liked the mid-century corner building. I hope it stays. Don't see why it couldn't be adapted as a hotel.





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PostOct 27, 2018#5

^ Anyone have a pic of the second unoccupied building referencef? I'm a bit unclear.

I'm generally fine with what's there North of Market if it can be redeveloped but what I really hope happens is the massive parking zone on the SW corner where the hotel used to be gets redeveloped in an ideally mixed-use manner. MSD HQ across the street kinda sucks but not sure what can be done about that. Anyway, looks like there is some good potential for the Jefferson/Market intersection to become much more vibrant down the road.

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PostOct 27, 2018#6

I'm still bummed about losing the Holy Cross Lutheran Church For the Deaf on Beaumont.

https://www.builtstlouis.net/central-co ... -deaf.html





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PostOct 28, 2018#7

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^ Anyone have a pic of the second unoccupied building referencef? I'm a bit unclear.

I'm generally fine with what's there North of Market if it can be redeveloped but what I really hope happens is the massive parking zone on the SW corner where the hotel used to be gets redeveloped in an ideally mixed-use manner. MSD HQ across the street kinda sucks but not sure what can be done about that. Anyway, looks like there is some good potential for the Jefferson/Market intersection to become much more vibrant down the road.
These are the two.


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PostOct 29, 2018#8

So after reading the article again, and mostly clarifying from the photo caption at the top, it looks like it's just the two brutalist buildings. Which clarifies my earlier statement that they were not in fact vacant like my friend said a few years ago (but they will be now). They're by far the most architecturally significant buildings on their campus (although I have a bit of a guilty love of the stepped tower). I would love to see them saved.

PostOct 29, 2018#9

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I just hope that whatever they do its more urban. Considering the plans for the stadium this whole section of town needs to work on a development plan to make sure its all done properly. Who are the DT west and Midtown aldermen? Is this Davis ward? Is that good or bad for urbanism?
Everything surrounding Jefferson & Market is Ingrassia which is good for urbanism IMO. Granted, we have had the QT incident and the recent demo for parking in DT West.
6 is Ingrassia, 19 is Davis, 5 is Hubbard, 7 is Coatar


Screen Shot 2018-10-29 at 1.46.56 PM by Alex Price, on Flickr

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PostOct 29, 2018#10

That image is a great peak at why we should have like 5-7 wards.

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PostApr 15, 2020#11

Not a whole lot of detail yet...but this could be big in the future.  Wells Fargo has sold the two buildings at 2601 Market to Green Street.  Green Street is taking a "wait and see" approach considering the current economic situation.  I think Green Street owning these properties significantly increases the likelihood that something urban in form could eventually come to the corner of Jefferson and Market.

Wells Fargo sells off part of St. Louis campus
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... s_headline

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PostApr 15, 2020#12

I was hoping the surface parking lot at the southwest corner would be developed. What an eye sore.

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PostApr 15, 2020#13

The south building has no windows on its West facade except at the top floor. Which is a huge issue if they're using historic tax credits. If they're not, installing some kind of curtain wall isn't cheap. Or hopefully they kind find a user that is okay with a 100' wide floor with windows only on one side. 
Also some ppl on Twitter are saying it's only the South building that was sold, not the building just south of the stepped tower. Can anyone confirm? 
As much as I'd love to see some more urban friendly architecture here, I'd really prefer the preservation route, unless they can find an appropriate curtain wall design for that west wall. I really hope they can save those atriums too. 
That being said, a new apartment building along Jefferson and Market is still entirely possible. I'm just not holding my breath for some proper street level activation that the area really needs. 

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PostApr 15, 2020#14

^ I was under the impression it was both buildings but considering the atrium connection to the stepped building it may just be the building closest to Market.

I wouldn’t expect preservation here, but I’m no expert either. Lack of windows aside, the asbestos issues aren’t going to be cheap to remediate either. Anything is possible though. I’d rather sacrifice this building for better street level activation, whether that be more office space, a hotel/conference center (which had been floated previously), or apartments...or some combination of mixed uses. This part of the city is just so suburban. With the removal of all that unnecessary highway infrastructure, the new stadium, and hopefully in the future some additional developments around that, this area could start to resemble something like a city. Especially if Wells Fargo is open to selling excess space on the edges of its campus, which they appear to be. You have a ready made anchor with over 5,000 jobs (and growing) to get something rolling in this area.

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PostApr 15, 2020#15

There are actually four buildings connected there. Building A is the north/south oriented portion. Building B is the east/west portion. Building C is the atrium that connects to the tower which is Building D. The point being that  Building B is structurally independent from the atrium so A & B could both be up for sale with out impacting the rest.

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PostJun 26, 2020#16

Chris posted these over in the Jefferson Connector thread, but some renderings were released for the hotel at the corner of Jefferson and Market. Looks like Building C that connects with the atrium will remain.



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PostMay 20, 2022#17

Looks like total, or partial, demolition of the building at the northwest corner of Jefferson and Market for a Kimpton Hotel and Staybridge Hotel. Renderings from the Midas website.


PostMay 20, 2022#18

Renderings for these were produced on May 4th and 5th of this year according to data from them. 

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PostMay 20, 2022#19

Is it just me or does it look like all new construction? Maybe they decided that building at the SE corner of the complex was unusable?

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PostMay 20, 2022#20

Oh snap!  I spy a "ground floor" tavern and a second UPBAR location on top.  Let's get it!  Hopefully something soon on that ocean of a lot just south of it.  Thanks, Chris.

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PostMay 20, 2022#21

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Is it just me or does it look like all new construction? Maybe they decided that building at the SE corner of the complex was unusable?
Looks like the "L" shaped building at the corner will be fully replaced with the Kimpton.  The Staybridge looks to be a combination of new construction and renovation of the building connecting to the stepped tower.  You can still make out the brick accents from the circled building in the background of the Staybridge rendering.




All in all a pretty great project if it happens.  Leaves just enough room for a nice landscaped Brickline connection between MLS and Harris-Stowe too.

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PostMay 20, 2022#22

sc4mayor wrote:
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dweebe wrote:
May 20, 2022
Is it just me or does it look like all new construction? Maybe they decided that building at the SE corner of the complex was unusable?
Looks like the "L" shaped building at the corner will be fully replaced with the Kimpton.  The Staybridge looks to be a combination of new construction and renovation of the building connecting to the stepped tower.  You can still make out the brick accents from the circled building in the background of the Staybridge rendering.


Thanks for the overhead shot. And that seems like a good guess with the Kimpton being all new and the Staybridge using that middle building. 

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PostMay 20, 2022#23

There's been a lot of rooftop work on the southern-most building on the campus this week. 2 huge cranes have been loading and unloading stuff from there and you can see the orange pennant roping from street-level. Maybe they're dismantling rooftop units so they can demolish the building???

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PostMay 20, 2022#24

I'm really going to miss that el-shaped building. It's quite handsome, and a classic example of that period. More of our architectural heritage lost.

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PostMay 23, 2022#25

^Yeah, but it's not really functional today. As @dweebe mentioned a little up from this post, this L-shaped section of the HQ is pretty much functionally obsolete, especially for the home of one of the largest broker/dealers in the US. Recognizing all the new buildings built on their campus just west of Beaumont, Wells Fargo has a bunch of excess capacities right now. Redevelopment of this corner of their campus has been a long time coming (first heard of a hotel coming here 5+ years ago), and I'm glad to see it's as good looking a proposed development as it is. 

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