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PostApr 15, 2020#11

Not a whole lot of detail yet...but this could be big in the future.  Wells Fargo has sold the two buildings at 2601 Market to Green Street.  Green Street is taking a "wait and see" approach considering the current economic situation.  I think Green Street owning these properties significantly increases the likelihood that something urban in form could eventually come to the corner of Jefferson and Market.

Wells Fargo sells off part of St. Louis campus
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... s_headline

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PostApr 15, 2020#12

I was hoping the surface parking lot at the southwest corner would be developed. What an eye sore.

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PostApr 15, 2020#13

The south building has no windows on its West facade except at the top floor. Which is a huge issue if they're using historic tax credits. If they're not, installing some kind of curtain wall isn't cheap. Or hopefully they kind find a user that is okay with a 100' wide floor with windows only on one side. 
Also some ppl on Twitter are saying it's only the South building that was sold, not the building just south of the stepped tower. Can anyone confirm? 
As much as I'd love to see some more urban friendly architecture here, I'd really prefer the preservation route, unless they can find an appropriate curtain wall design for that west wall. I really hope they can save those atriums too. 
That being said, a new apartment building along Jefferson and Market is still entirely possible. I'm just not holding my breath for some proper street level activation that the area really needs. 

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PostApr 15, 2020#14

^ I was under the impression it was both buildings but considering the atrium connection to the stepped building it may just be the building closest to Market.

I wouldn’t expect preservation here, but I’m no expert either. Lack of windows aside, the asbestos issues aren’t going to be cheap to remediate either. Anything is possible though. I’d rather sacrifice this building for better street level activation, whether that be more office space, a hotel/conference center (which had been floated previously), or apartments...or some combination of mixed uses. This part of the city is just so suburban. With the removal of all that unnecessary highway infrastructure, the new stadium, and hopefully in the future some additional developments around that, this area could start to resemble something like a city. Especially if Wells Fargo is open to selling excess space on the edges of its campus, which they appear to be. You have a ready made anchor with over 5,000 jobs (and growing) to get something rolling in this area.

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PostApr 15, 2020#15

There are actually four buildings connected there. Building A is the north/south oriented portion. Building B is the east/west portion. Building C is the atrium that connects to the tower which is Building D. The point being that  Building B is structurally independent from the atrium so A & B could both be up for sale with out impacting the rest.

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PostJun 26, 2020#16

Chris posted these over in the Jefferson Connector thread, but some renderings were released for the hotel at the corner of Jefferson and Market. Looks like Building C that connects with the atrium will remain.



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PostMay 20, 2022#17

Looks like total, or partial, demolition of the building at the northwest corner of Jefferson and Market for a Kimpton Hotel and Staybridge Hotel. Renderings from the Midas website.


PostMay 20, 2022#18

Renderings for these were produced on May 4th and 5th of this year according to data from them. 

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PostMay 20, 2022#19

Is it just me or does it look like all new construction? Maybe they decided that building at the SE corner of the complex was unusable?

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PostMay 20, 2022#20

Oh snap!  I spy a "ground floor" tavern and a second UPBAR location on top.  Let's get it!  Hopefully something soon on that ocean of a lot just south of it.  Thanks, Chris.

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PostMay 20, 2022#21

dweebe wrote:
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Is it just me or does it look like all new construction? Maybe they decided that building at the SE corner of the complex was unusable?
Looks like the "L" shaped building at the corner will be fully replaced with the Kimpton.  The Staybridge looks to be a combination of new construction and renovation of the building connecting to the stepped tower.  You can still make out the brick accents from the circled building in the background of the Staybridge rendering.




All in all a pretty great project if it happens.  Leaves just enough room for a nice landscaped Brickline connection between MLS and Harris-Stowe too.

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PostMay 20, 2022#22

sc4mayor wrote:
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dweebe wrote:
May 20, 2022
Is it just me or does it look like all new construction? Maybe they decided that building at the SE corner of the complex was unusable?
Looks like the "L" shaped building at the corner will be fully replaced with the Kimpton.  The Staybridge looks to be a combination of new construction and renovation of the building connecting to the stepped tower.  You can still make out the brick accents from the circled building in the background of the Staybridge rendering.


Thanks for the overhead shot. And that seems like a good guess with the Kimpton being all new and the Staybridge using that middle building. 

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PostMay 20, 2022#23

There's been a lot of rooftop work on the southern-most building on the campus this week. 2 huge cranes have been loading and unloading stuff from there and you can see the orange pennant roping from street-level. Maybe they're dismantling rooftop units so they can demolish the building???

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PostMay 20, 2022#24

I'm really going to miss that el-shaped building. It's quite handsome, and a classic example of that period. More of our architectural heritage lost.

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PostMay 23, 2022#25

^Yeah, but it's not really functional today. As @dweebe mentioned a little up from this post, this L-shaped section of the HQ is pretty much functionally obsolete, especially for the home of one of the largest broker/dealers in the US. Recognizing all the new buildings built on their campus just west of Beaumont, Wells Fargo has a bunch of excess capacities right now. Redevelopment of this corner of their campus has been a long time coming (first heard of a hotel coming here 5+ years ago), and I'm glad to see it's as good looking a proposed development as it is. 

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PostMay 28, 2022#26

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I'm really going to miss that el-shaped building. It's quite handsome, and a classic example of that period. More of our architectural heritage lost.
I agree with this statement 100%. A very handsome example of the period. And our community continues to tear them down. 

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PostMay 28, 2022#27

$1.1M Demo permit application submitted for Wells Fargo Bldgs A-B and Atrium Connect Bldg C

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PostMay 31, 2022#28

Demolition of the existing buildings should be complete this year…with an estimated 2Q ground breaking next year. Sounds like this was on the drawing board before the MLS news broke.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... treet.html

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PostMay 31, 2022#29

STL Biz Journal: Hotels planned at corner of Market and Jefferson downtown

Idea: When these hotels open, the Pear Tree Inn's full redevelopment will start. 

Reasoning: For quite a long time, Wells Fargo Advisors had their new hires from their retail brokerage sites nationwide fly into STL for training sessions. These training sessions are for everyone on the Financial Advisor scale, from veteran IAs changing firm affiliations to green rookies fresh out of college. Some of us may have noticed the signs for Wells Fargo Advisors University Training Center, along Market west of Beaumont. Training programs at the STL HQ go back to the AG Edwards days. 

Wells Fargo Advisors is the third-largest brokerage firm in the US. Many thousands of people come to STL for training at 1 North Jefferson every year. 

Now, these Financial Advisors receiving training at the STL HQ have historically stayed at the Pear Tree Inn, east of the Jefferson campus. For the Pear Tree Inn, the WFAU Training Program is a solid revenue generator, keeping the lights on and the steady money coming in throughout the year. It's quite reasonable to think that, when these new hotels are completed, the FA Training Program will have their new hires stay here - right across Beaumont from the WFAU Training Center - instead of at the Pear Tree Inn, preferring their trainees staying on-campus at their brand new on-site hotels rather than at the old hotel that definitely needs modern updating. The two brands make perfect sense, too: rookie FAs will be booked at the Staybridge Suites, and the major corporate guests (and maybe monied rookie FAs) will stay at the Kimpton. 

The likely loss of this business would break the Pear Tree Inn's current business model of guaranteed WFA revenues. It will compel the hotel to adapt if it is to survive. Meanwhile, considering that their site footprint is right next door to the new MLS stadium, I think they'll be all right in the long term. 

Therefore, once the steady revenues from the WFAU Training Program are gone and no longer coming back, I anticipate the Pear Tree Inn will then progress on their major redevelopment, whether a hotel modernization or a full teardown & reconstruction to best capitalize on working with their new soccer stadium neighbors. 

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PostSep 19, 2022#30

Fencing is up and a Spirtas trailer is on site in front of the two corner buildings.

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PostSep 19, 2022#31

That has been the case for a while now. 

I don't know if it's posturing or if something is actually about to happen. 

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PostSep 19, 2022#32

RockChalkSTL wrote:
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That has been the case for a while now. 

I don't know if it's posturing or if something is actually about to happen. 

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PostSep 19, 2022#33

It's already been reported that demolition could start before the end of this year.  One demolition permit was applied for in May, another in July.  That end of year timeline seems likely now.

Not sure what Spirtas would be "posturing" for.

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PostSep 19, 2022#34

I say posturing because we've seen a demolition company leave equipment in front of those vacant Kingshighway properties and that ultimately meant nothing. It was 100% posturing. 

The trailer you're mentioning has been there for a while. 

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PostSep 19, 2022#35

Apples and oranges. They could also be doing some internal work to prep for demo that we can't see right now. 

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