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Post11:31 PM - Jul 06#376

‘It’s a hellhole:’ Missouri AG targets Mark Twain building over alleged drug trafficking, vows to shut it down
https://www.firstalert4.com/2026/07/06/its-hellhole-missouri-ag-targets-mark-twain-hotel-over-alleged-drug-trafficking-vows-shut-it-down/

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Post12:11 AM - Jul 07#377

Should be worth reminding that actual real humans live here and their lives will be made even more difficult so the AG can get some political points.

There's a genuine scenario where they shut it down, and then it just sits vacant while homelessness goes up and crime just moves somewhere else, like a park downtown. All so the AG could get a gold TV 1-liner.

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Post2:28 PM - Jul 07#378

StlAlex wrote: ↑
12:11 AM - Jul 07
Should be worth reminding that actual real humans live here and their lives will be made even more difficult so the AG can get some political points.

There's a genuine scenario where they shut it down, and then it just sits vacant while homelessness goes up and crime just moves somewhere else, like a park downtown. All so the AG could get a gold TV 1-liner.

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???? The people who live here sound like their lives are being upended by some people who want to sell drugs. I feel bad for people who are trying to live their lives and are calling the police but clearly nothing major has been done to correct a few peoples behavior in the building.  
Would it be better to continue to let those renters suffer and let people keep selling drugs?  Who does that help? I guess the drug dealers?

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Post2:45 PM - Jul 07#379

I used to live across the street from this building, and I assure you it was a hellhole. The conditions and behaviors often spread to adjacent blocks, including the Schnucks next door. 

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Post3:10 PM - Jul 07#380

mjbais1489 wrote:
StlAlex wrote: ↑
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Should be worth reminding that actual real humans live here and their lives will be made even more difficult so the AG can get some political points.

There's a genuine scenario where they shut it down, and then it just sits vacant while homelessness goes up and crime just moves somewhere else, like a park downtown. All so the AG could get a gold TV 1-liner.

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???? The people who live here sound like their lives are being upended by some people who want to sell drugs. I feel bad for people who are trying to live their lives and are calling the police but clearly nothing major has been done to correct a few peoples behavior in the building.  
Would it be better to continue to let those renters suffer and let people keep selling drugs?  Who does that help? I guess the drug dealers?
So the solution to "help" the people calling the police is to take their home away?? Gee what a helpful government lmao.

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Post3:22 PM - Jul 07#381

It would be nice if the federal government made homelessness and drug addiction a priority.

I had always heard the hotel was popular with registered sex offenders, drug/alcohol, prostitution. How we support the people and not the behavior is a problem far above the City of St. Louis’s capacity and I don’t believe its downtown residents responsibility to accommodate them.

Ultimately, these people go where they can be unbothered. Sad issue all around.

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Post2:15 PM - Jul 08#382

I used to deliver pizzas here in college circa early 2000s, and it was rough then.  I can understand why one of the tenets of sociology and urban planning is to avoid concentrating poverty populations, as we learned from our failed housing projects over the decades.   

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Post11:05 PM - Jul 08#383

I get the real human part but Mark Twain has really got to go for the betterment of downtown. Sex offenders child molesters alike don’t belong in a downtown that’s geared more towards families. This place feeds into the very perception of what’s wrong with downtown & I personal have seen enough of the rift raft that comes with it. If this places goes it becomes an instant net positive for that entire block & even the surrounding area If the AT&T building in fact gets redeveloped you don’t want a Mark Twain place near it & I hope a revitalizing downtown doesn’t keep this place around much longer….


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Post11:20 PM - Jul 08#384

I thought this was being redeveloped into a name brand hotel? Is that a different building?


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Post11:38 PM - Jul 08#385

did not the news 4 report point out that the supposed luxury hotel does not even have start up money?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umxb34t7wns

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Post12:33 AM - Jul 09#386

There's plans for a redevelopment into a Hilton Tapestry and a restaurant but it would have already moved forward if it was a serious plan. A hotel would be great here though.

So shutting it down probably will just result in another vacant building for who knows how long.

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Post6:24 PM - Jul 10#387

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... emand.html

Mark Twain Hotel to close September 1, owner says it will move forward with redevelopment plans.

I doubt they will be able to put the financing together to move forward with anything but I guess we will see.

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Post3:15 PM - Jul 11#388

Work is well underway on the conversion of the Last Hotel into a Hyatt. Also the fencing around the Jefferson Arms building has been taken down

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Post6:45 PM - Aug 14#389

Hotels in the City did $83M in revenue in Q1 2026 v $73M in Q12025
 +13% (state hasn't posted data but City/County combined is +8 after Q2)
Full-Service restaurants $107m v $100M in Q12025, +6% 
Union Station $19m +13% 
BPV $11.5M +7% 
Downtown CID $39.2M +6% 
S Grand $8.32M +15%
 Loop $24M +9% 
Grove $11.5M -3% 
CityPark $9.99M -6%

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Post9:13 PM - Sep 08#390

Looks like the Le Meridian downtown is reopening today, with a new restaurant too. I hope it does well! Anyone down there checking it out?

Downtown St. Louis hotel to reopen Tuesday | First Alert 4

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Post8:14 PM - Sep 25#391

I’m staying at Union Station this weekend. Stayed at Courtyard Marriott at the Convention Center last visit. Cheshire visit before last. Lowe’s at BPV before that.

Wondering if any other outsiders who visit frequently have been disappointed in STLs hospitality chops or do I just have high standards?

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Post12:15 AM - Sep 26#392

addxb2 wrote:I’m staying at Union Station this weekend. Stayed at Courtyard Marriott at the Convention Center last visit. Cheshire visit before last. Lowe’s at BPV before that.

Wondering if any other outsiders who visit frequently have been disappointed in STLs hospitality chops or do I just have high standards?
I’ve found that a lot of local hotels are not well maintained compared to national and international brand peers. Thought I don’t think it’s unique to STL. Have had similar issues in Indianapolis recently.

If you care about your hotel being well maintained, I find that you either need to pick a brand like Four Seasons that will always force high standards (Ritz is not so strict) or just select whichever hotel is the newest.

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Post6:36 PM - 18 days ago#393

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2026/10/07/closed-liquidation-downtown-stlouis-hotel.html

Anyone know what's up with the former Pear Tree? How is a hotel right next to the convention center vacant with no apparent plans?

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Post7:25 PM - 18 days ago#394

addxb2 wrote: ↑
8:14 PM - Sep 25
I’m staying at Union Station this weekend. Stayed at Courtyard Marriott at the Convention Center last visit. Cheshire visit before last. Lowe’s at BPV before that.

Wondering if any other outsiders who visit frequently have been disappointed in STLs hospitality chops or do I just have high standards?
I know we have to do the "St. Louis sucks/everywhere else is better schtick". We get it. But I disagree.

The hospitality industry has declined nationwide. Brands aren't holding franchisees to standards regardless whether it be the cheap highway motel or a luxury hotel in a big city. Both Hilton and Marriott groups just stink now. I will say Hyatt hotels seem to be holding standards. The problem is they're 1/12th the footprint of each of those big guys.

My solution when traveling for work or pleasure is to book a newer property or something that got a gut rehab: preferably in the last 5 years. I'd rather stay at a newer Hampton Inn or Fairfield Inn over an older Conrad or Marriott.

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Post7:25 PM - 18 days ago#395

dweebe wrote:
addxb2 wrote: ↑
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I’m staying at Union Station this weekend. Stayed at Courtyard Marriott at the Convention Center last visit. Cheshire visit before last. Lowe’s at BPV before that.

Wondering if any other outsiders who visit frequently have been disappointed in STLs hospitality chops or do I just have high standards?
I disagree. 

I know we have to do the "St. Louis sucks/everywhere else is better schtick". We get it.

But the hospitality industry has declined nationwide. Brands aren't holding franchisees to standards regardless whether it be the cheap highway motel or a luxury hotel in a big city. Both Hilton and Marriott groups just stink now.

I will say Hyatt hotels seem to be holding standards. The problem is they're 1/12th the footprint of each of those big guys.

My solution when traveling for work or pleasure is to book a newer property or something that got a gut rehab: preferably in the last 5 years. I'd rather stay at a newer Hampton Inn or Fairfield Inn over an older Conrad or Marriott.
Agreed

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Post5:41 AM - 18 days ago#396

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/hyatt-centric-set-to-open-in-former-site-of-the-last-hotel-bringing-new-energy-to-washington-avenue/63-9ea8b762-2929-4f56-9646-322b9eddbd4c

Hyatt Centric, in the former The Last Hotel, will open on October 15 after $4 million in renovations.

The new hotel features a rooftop pool and bar, a ballroom that can hold more than 200 people, a coffee shop and restaurant, and will employ 40 people.

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Post1:24 PM - 2 days ago#397

Last year, St. Louis ranked #2 in US hotel growth, one of 10 top-25 markets to post positive gains in a down national year.
This year, even without World Cup games and a lighter convention calendar, STL is still outpacing the national growth average through Q3.

On a related WC note, Chicago benefitted by not hosting the WC games. Conventions avoided WC cities this summer and went there.
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Post4:07 PM - 2 days ago#398

Some improvement in leisure and hospitality employment this summer also. Some growth in labor force would be great for the local industry. STL needs to send groups out to Columbia, Jefferson City, Cape, Hannibal/Quincy, etc. to pull workers into St. Louis. Same is true for other blue collar jobs. 
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Post4:13 PM - 2 days ago#399

Here is 1 year change in leisure & hospitality for top 50 MSA, color coded by rank. Red = 50, Blue = 1
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Here is 10 year change in leisure & hospitality for top 50 MSA. 
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Post1:59 PM - 1 day ago#400

Had breakfast at the Last Hotel a few days ago, they did a spectacular job on the lobby renovation. I just hope the restaurant and bar does OK. My group were the only ones there at the time.

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