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19 floor tower designed by SOM coming to the Garment District?

https://thekcpulse.com/2026/01/08/19-st ... d-central/

Oh we would absolutely allow this to happen here. What a travesty, and right at a new streetcar station!

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:Oh we would absolutely allow this to happen here. What a travesty, and right at a new streetcar station!

Idk. We’ve been getting pretty good at saving buildings. I can think of more big saves than big loses recently. Excluding fires.

stlgasm wrote:

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2:50 PM - Jan 15

Oh we would absolutely allow this to happen here. What a travesty, and right at a new streetcar station!

I disagree. We may let it languish until it burns down or collapses, but I don't think the people of St. Louis would purposefully demolish the oldest surviving building in the city, especially without a solid redevelopment proposal.

This is not the oldest building in KCMO proper by a few decades.

Original site owner wanted to save the facade and put up a tower behind the saved facades (not sure he had the means to do a tower but he was the largest apartment owner in the region and had done many 5+1’s). Historic folks got the City to declare the buildings historic and put a 2 year moratorium to stop any demo or facadectomy. City and Historic types failed to create a workable plan to actually save the buildings. New owner also wants a highrise and recognizes the city/historic groups dont actually care about taking any actionable steps to stabilize and save them.

St.Louis has lost nearly half or more than half its historic buildings either by being burned down or left abandoned to be torn down or just tearing them down without replacing them I can’t think of a big city that has nearly erased half of its historic structures…


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St. Louis is actually considered a national leader in saving our historic building stock. Sure, we've lost a ton, but most cities have lost much more.  

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3:00 PM - Jan 15

stlgasm wrote:

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑

2:50 PM - Jan 15

Oh we would absolutely allow this to happen here. What a travesty, and right at a new streetcar station!

I disagree. We may let it languish until it burns down or collapses, but I don't think the people of St. Louis would purposefully demolish the oldest surviving building in the city, especially without a solid redevelopment proposal.

This is not the oldest building in KCMO proper by a few decades.

Original site owner wanted to save the facade and put up a tower behind the saved facades (not sure he had the means to do a tower but he was the largest apartment owner in the region and had done many 5+1’s). Historic folks got the City to declare the buildings historic and put a 2 year moratorium to stop any demo or facadectomy. City and Historic types failed to create a workable plan to actually save the buildings. New owner also wants a highrise and recognizes the city/historic groups dont actually care about taking any actionable steps to stabilize and save them.

The original site owner, Doug Price, did not intend to save the facades. It was to be a reconstruction of the Jeserich’s facade, nothing more. He also wasn’t capable of delivering a high-rise on that site. His desire was a tear down and replacement with a 5-over-1 in the best case scenario. But Doug’s insistence that he “had to wait to see the Streetcar running before deciding what to do with the property” was a problem. The city was more than willing to work with a developer on an incentive plan to preserve the buildings, but Doug never went to talk to them and instead chose to sell the buildings to the owner of the neighboring Vet Clinic. And then he got to demolish the buildings while promising an RFP for something new on that property (with room for an expanded Vet practice). Under current zoning rules, overlay districts, and Union Hill design guidelines, that site is limited to 5-stories. Nothing good will replace what was lost.

Chris Stritzel wrote:

ldai_phs wrote: ↑

3:00 PM - Jan 15

stlgasm wrote: I disagree. We may let it languish until it burns down or collapses, but I don't think the people of St. Louis would purposefully demolish the oldest surviving building in the city, especially without a solid redevelopment proposal.

This is not the oldest building in KCMO proper by a few decades.

Original site owner wanted to save the facade and put up a tower behind the saved facades (not sure he had the means to do a tower but he was the largest apartment owner in the region and had done many 5+1’s). Historic folks got the City to declare the buildings historic and put a 2 year moratorium to stop any demo or facadectomy. City and Historic types failed to create a workable plan to actually save the buildings. New owner also wants a highrise and recognizes the city/historic groups dont actually care about taking any actionable steps to stabilize and save them.

The original site owner, Doug Price, did not intend to save the facades. It was to be a reconstruction of the Jeserich’s facade, nothing more. He also wasn’t capable of delivering a high-rise on that site. His desire was a tear down and replacement with a 5-over-1 in the best case scenario. But Doug’s insistence that he “had to wait to see the Streetcar running before deciding what to do with the property” was a problem. The city was more than willing to work with a developer on an incentive plan to preserve the buildings, but Doug never went to talk to them and instead chose to sell the buildings to the owner of the neighboring Vet Clinic. And then he got to demolish the buildings while promising an RFP for something new on that property (with room for an expanded Vet practice). Under current zoning rules, overlay districts, and Union Hill design guidelines, that site is limited to 5-stories. Nothing good will replace what was lost.

As far as he communicated publicly, he wanted to do a tower (as per renderings). The City has to be proactive with this kind of thing and wasn’t at all.

Every project in KC seems to get a variance so that’s a non-issue.

It was never a serious proposal

I was being a bit sarcastic about St.Louis is the only city I can think of that’s torn down nearly half or more of its historic structures. I know Detroit takes the cake but didn’t realize Cleveland was just as bad 2 cities I happen to like.


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Would love something like this to go on the east riverfront in IL, perfect spot for it

https://www.kctv5.com/2026/01/23/rivers ... ent-venue/#

16th & Broadway by VeLa Development and EPC.

The development is planned to be split into 3 phases with the first phase consisting of a 33-story apartment tower with 392 apartments and 481 parking spaces.

https://veladev.com

Nice

Beautiful building I hope it comes to fruition


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Between this, the 800 Grand high-rise, the 27-story tower at 9th and Central and the potential high-rise at 10th and Central, I am glad that Cordish is finally seeing some good competition downtown. Hopefully this will push them to make themselves more unique in their designs and offerings. I am also glad to see potential developments in other areas that aren't the Power & Light District. 

Negro Leagues Baseball Museum announces $35 million expansion at historic Kansas City site
https://www.kctv5.com/2026/02/13/negro-leagues-baseball-museum-announces-35-million-expansion-historic-kansas-city-site/

chris fuller wrote:Negro Leagues Baseball Museum announces $35 million expansion at historic Kansas City site
https://www.kctv5.com/2026/02/13/negro-leagues-baseball-museum-announces-35-million-expansion-historic-kansas-city-site/

Tower crane for the parking garage is up

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2026/02/25/ ... -streetcar

Already getting the next expansion started. This is forward thinking

The vision in KC right now under the same state leadership we complain about and blame for our holdbacks is light years ahead of what we have right now in StL. Let’s cancel our transit project and watch the city across the state build.

It’s just sad