Ohio Governor Mike DeWine signed a new budget into law late Monday night. The big, beautiful, Buckeye bill gives the Browns $600 million in state money for a new stadium — and it clears the path to move from Cleveland to Brook Park without violating the Art Modell Law.
Money for transit or things that will actually improve the state? 
Money for billionaires to build a suburban stadium to host 15 events per year?
Money for billionaires to build a suburban stadium to host 15 events per year?
More fun.
I'm glad I'm not the only one still holding a grudge all these years later.
All my life I've looked to improve myself. Not sweat the small things. Be nice to others. Learn to forgive people.framer wrote: ↑Oct 03, 2025I'm glad I'm not the only one still holding a grudge all these years later.
But the one thing I'm going to be petty about and carry to my deathbed is a deep seething hatred for Stan Kroenke that will never go away. F*ck him.
I've become apathetic with respect to the NFL. College has filled the void for me, the atmosphere is better and Saturdays are more conducive for imbibing spirits.
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Just had another one of my educational seminars at an airport bar where I enlightened fellow travelers to the absolute piece of toadstooldweebe wrote: ↑Oct 03, 2025All my life I've looked to improve myself. Not sweat the small things. Be nice to others. Learn to forgive people.framer wrote: ↑Oct 03, 2025I'm glad I'm not the only one still holding a grudge all these years later.
But the one thing I'm going to be petty about and carry to my deathbed is a deep seething hatred for Stan Kroenke that will never go away. F*ck him.
that Stan Kroenke. One particular guy from Minneapolis was incredulous that we won a billion dollars. “Thats on public record?” Oh yeah buddy…watching his face as he googled it filled my heart with petty joy.I had about the same exact conversation/thing with a relative at a wedding reception. This is someone very smart, intuned to things and also likes sports.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Oct 05, 2025Just had another one of my educational seminars at an airport bar where I enlightened fellow travelers to the absolute piece of toadstooldweebe wrote: ↑Oct 03, 2025All my life I've looked to improve myself. Not sweat the small things. Be nice to others. Learn to forgive people.framer wrote: ↑Oct 03, 2025I'm glad I'm not the only one still holding a grudge all these years later.
But the one thing I'm going to be petty about and carry to my deathbed is a deep seething hatred for Stan Kroenke that will never go away. F*ck him.
I pulled up this press release from the NFL, handed my phone over and he must have said "No way!" like 4 or 5 times.
https://www.nfl.com/news/790m-settlemen ... -departure
It has been nearly 1 year since there's been any comprehensive news on the Rams Settlement. The tornado recovery efforts understandably redirected the focus of legislature and resulted in some as-needed withdrawals from the fund, however there is still no clear plan for what remains of the sum and its interest accruals. The last update on the city's settlement page was from January of last year with the announcement of the "Transform STL" act, which was subsequently debated, amended, tabled, and ultimately abandoned within a month with the mayoral election as an excuse to halt discussions. When will discussions resume as we draw nearer to a year after the tornado changed priorities, two years after over 12k citizens voiced their priorities for the funds, three years after it was invested in a secure account, and four years since the settlement was won?
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Mayor wants to spend it on homeownership in Downtown and north side and infrastructure. Her budget director wants to sit on it indefinitely and others want other things.
God forbid we use it on transit infrastructure. That would be too much of a slam dunk.
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As explained by Bloomberg.com, the fight began over the city’s placement of billboards in and around the vicinity of SoFi Stadium. After Kroenke and company lost that round, the battle morphed into a claim that Inglewood owes Kroenke $400 million spent on road, sewers, other infrastructure, and police and fire protection. The city claims there is no binding agreement requiring any such amounts to be paid.
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Daily Breeze (via Bloomberg): Owner of Rams and SoFi Stadium battles Inglewood over billboards, roads and sewers
Yup. Stank Kroenke's still the same petty SOB that he's always been.
Yup. Stank Kroenke's still the same petty SOB that he's always been.
Crazy to think about how different downtown St. Louis would be if Kroenke had spent $5.5B of his own money on a stadium/district in the North or East Riverfront neighborhoods. Try not to spend too much time thinking about him, but with the 10 year anniversary of the Rams announcing their move to LA being yesterday it's hard not to. Truly would've been a transcendent investment that would've altered the course of our city.
^ yes, he could have built quite of a great legacy for himself with that type of ($5B) investment downtown.
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A little over 10 years ago, former governor Nixon said,
“If we do nothing then people will stand right here 10 years from now and that will look exactly like it looks right there," Nixon said during a news conference on St. Louis’ north riverfront near the proposed stadium site.
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“If we do nothing then people will stand right here 10 years from now and that will look exactly like it looks right there," Nixon said during a news conference on St. Louis’ north riverfront near the proposed stadium site.
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And the state did nothing for ten years, but continue to undermine the city and other existing areas by promoting development at the edges of the region..
Why hasn't the Musial bridge activated this area?
Why hasn't the Musial bridge activated this area?
It's not even a draw for anything other than getting onto Highway 70.quincunx wrote: ↑2:51 AM - Jan 14And the state did nothing for ten years, but continue to undermine the city and other existing areas by promoting development at the edges of the region..
Why hasn't the Musial bridge activated this area?
If you decide to actually exit the Stan span into downtown on Tucker/13th you are greeted to a bum wasteland when you arrive.
Of course go after Stan, the issue is MO has done nothing to move forward for 10 years. At some point we have to look at civic leadership, which has mostly failed. State as well.
MO only wants Springfield to grow, seriously. Their vision of Missouri is St. Louis dying and Kansas City mostly being in Kansas. But city leaders sure aren’t helping. Even Jones said the right things and didn’t have much to show for it.
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MO only wants Springfield to grow, seriously. Their vision of Missouri is St. Louis dying and Kansas City mostly being in Kansas. But city leaders sure aren’t helping. Even Jones said the right things and didn’t have much to show for it.
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This is still my best idea for the Rams settlement. Would build thousands of new homes in north city very quickly.addxb2 wrote:I’ve put some thought to the Rams settlement and tornado rebuilding. Especially now that state and FEMA are coming through in a big way.
Here is my brainstorming for those who need something to read…
Create a new designation, Emergency Community Improvement District (ECID). No sales or property tax. Geographically it would look similar to Opportunity Zone designation.
City puts in $200M from settlement. State and private sector matches 1:1. $400M fund in total. This does not include any of the recovery funding.
ECID is controlled by a governing body of 50 representatives. Mayor and Board nominate 100 potential members, governors office chooses the final 50 to a three year term. The large governing body is intentional. 75% must live or have a registered business within ECID. 100% must reside in the city.
ECID Commission is supported by real estate advisors. These advisors, with direction by ECID Commission, identify redevelopment opportunities (think 1-3 city blocks each) and release an RFP for private investment based on community desired uses. Current residents within specific redevelopment area receive lifetime property tax freeze. It would require developers preserve any vacant but salvageable building. No tax abatement can be given to the developer.
This is where it gets interesting. The ECID is not allowed to actually spend any of the original funding. Instead, they are authorized to commit some or all of the fund as collateral to guarantee the winning developer a loan. The ECID also guarantees the developer via a buy back. For example, whatever does not sell within two years will be bought by the commission at build cost. Once the development is sold/leased/rented, the agreement is voided, and the ECID is free to release another RFP with funds.
The ECID does have the ability to allocate interest earned on the fund to infrastructure projects within the district.
So here is the result.
- Community driven design that happens FAST.
- $400M has the opportunity to guarantee $2-$3B in private redevelopment in North St. Louis over 10 years.
- Since no tax abatement is given, property tax revenues start growing immediately.
- Residents are shielded from the property tax growth from improved market conditions.
- $100-$200M in infrastructure investment over 10 years from fund revenue.
- At the end of it all, fund is still intact.
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I'm with you on this... the city need to start the growth and spark that ignites things up and into the north side. Otherwise will will continue to wait for Northside Regeneration which is...addxb2 wrote: ↑4:51 PM - Jan 15This is still my best idea for the Rams settlement. Would build thousands of new homes in north city very quickly.addxb2 wrote:I’ve put some thought to the Rams settlement and tornado rebuilding. Especially now that state and FEMA are coming through in a big way.
Here is my brainstorming for those who need something to read…
Create a new designation, Emergency Community Improvement District (ECID). No sales or property tax. Geographically it would look similar to Opportunity Zone designation.
City puts in $200M from settlement. State and private sector matches 1:1. $400M fund in total. This does not include any of the recovery funding.
ECID is controlled by a governing body of 50 representatives. Mayor and Board nominate 100 potential members, governors office chooses the final 50 to a three year term. The large governing body is intentional. 75% must live or have a registered business within ECID. 100% must reside in the city.
ECID Commission is supported by real estate advisors. These advisors, with direction by ECID Commission, identify redevelopment opportunities (think 1-3 city blocks each) and release an RFP for private investment based on community desired uses. Current residents within specific redevelopment area receive lifetime property tax freeze. It would require developers preserve any vacant but salvageable building. No tax abatement can be given to the developer.
This is where it gets interesting. The ECID is not allowed to actually spend any of the original funding. Instead, they are authorized to commit some or all of the fund as collateral to guarantee the winning developer a loan. The ECID also guarantees the developer via a buy back. For example, whatever does not sell within two years will be bought by the commission at build cost. Once the development is sold/leased/rented, the agreement is voided, and the ECID is free to release another RFP with funds.
The ECID does have the ability to allocate interest earned on the fund to infrastructure projects within the district.
So here is the result.
- Community driven design that happens FAST.
- $400M has the opportunity to guarantee $2-$3B in private redevelopment in North St. Louis over 10 years.
- Since no tax abatement is given, property tax revenues start growing immediately.
- Residents are shielded from the property tax growth from improved market conditions.
- $100-$200M in infrastructure investment over 10 years from fund revenue.
- At the end of it all, fund is still intact.
I'd actually be willing to do something like this completely on its own with an expanded Prop NS program that just starts building, fully renovating, and offering homes at incredibly affordable prices to prospective home buyers. ...otherwise I fear we'll be like our predecessors who have sat for decades and wonder why things haven't changed.
And, housing has so much future value... we build transit without any return, let's build homes which can/should pay for themselves over time.
As a transplant to St. Louis, I’ve often thought that the best way to get the North City back is by having a very strong central corridor.
I’d start there while laying the groundwork for development to progress north (infrastructure, connectivity, rezoning and blanket incentives). $1 of public spend in the central corridor will attract far more dollars of private spend (and tax revenue) than $1 in north city.
I’d start there while laying the groundwork for development to progress north (infrastructure, connectivity, rezoning and blanket incentives). $1 of public spend in the central corridor will attract far more dollars of private spend (and tax revenue) than $1 in north city.