Excavation of the tree wells along the east side of 7th appears to have uncovered a line of stone foundations, stretching for quite a distance.
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Cool indeed! I recall when they were doing some work on Washington and dug out the old trolley line. Would be really cool if someone found Chief Pontiac someday, a la Richard III in his car park. There'd be a lot to be learned from Pontiac. (And from that foundation, maybe.)
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Like I always say, unearth those cobblestones on a few racing streets, now you have hellcat deterrence and original historical quaint downtown streets. Throw some patio dining and drinking on them.Back to our roots. Now you got a whole new authentic ambience that might draw people.
Not a huge fan of the beg buttons or their placement. These are an obstruction, along with several awkward curb ramps that are definitely a trip hazard.
I love the new trees and am looking forward to the bike lane, however. I'm just surprised at how some of these improvements actually feel worse from a pedestrian standpoint.
I love the new trees and am looking forward to the bike lane, however. I'm just surprised at how some of these improvements actually feel worse from a pedestrian standpoint.
Great to see the trees. Does anyone have a timeline for the bike lane component?
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Entire road way is getting repaved starting Monday (weather pending)
Then on Tuesday Ameren, Spire and or Missouri American water will start digging.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 09, 2025Entire road way is getting repaved starting Monday (weather pending)
There shouldn't be beg buttons downtown, smh.Tim wrote: ↑May 09, 2025Not a huge fan of the beg buttons or their placement. These are an obstruction, along with several awkward curb ramps that are definitely a trip hazard.
I love the new trees and am looking forward to the bike lane, however. I'm just surprised at how some of these improvements actually feel worse from a pedestrian standpoint.
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We don't have Missouri American Water in the city
The fact that the 7th street improvements were so hyped up for what is essentially very basic, streamlined infrastructure is kind of sad. This should be the minimum standard for every street downtown.
I don't mind beg buttons, just wish they were attached to the traffic cantilever instead of on their own.quincunx wrote: ↑May 09, 2025There shouldn't be beg buttons downtown, smh.Tim wrote: ↑May 09, 2025Not a huge fan of the beg buttons or their placement. These are an obstruction, along with several awkward curb ramps that are definitely a trip hazard.
I love the new trees and am looking forward to the bike lane, however. I'm just surprised at how some of these improvements actually feel worse from a pedestrian standpoint.
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I wouldn't put it past them./jkquincunx wrote: ↑May 09, 2025We don't have Missouri American Water in the city
Part of the reason the Big Bend Rd and Clayton Rd water main project is taking so long/never has anyone working is it's actually a City of St. Louis Water Dept project.
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I agree with you somewhat but this has actually been the go to design when streets have been “modernized” and “reconstructed” as well. I’ve seen this exact layout over and over on brand new streets across the US. I am in no way wowed about the 7th street project yet and don’t exactly understand this new fad street design either.Tim wrote: ↑May 09, 2025Not a huge fan of the beg buttons or their placement. These are an obstruction, along with several awkward curb ramps that are definitely a trip hazard.
I love the new trees and am looking forward to the bike lane, however. I'm just surprised at how some of these improvements actually feel worse from a pedestrian standpoint.
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As soon as they said “value engineer” we all knew what this would be.
I imagine that the famous Barr garage demo will be the thing that damages this work, not the utilities.
Things are moving at a good clip. That being said, what are your thoughts on these large metal signs about 4 feet off the ground?
The pictures don't really do it justice, but these are overhanging the sidewalk and a portion of the crosswalk, and are surprisingly hard to see from the back side unless you're really paying attention, and they are SHARP! I can see a lot of downtown revelers, and their kids, catching a head or shoulder on one of these and getting cut pretty badly. I'm surprised how low and intrusive these are.
The painted fronts of the signs are much easier to see, but the gray backsides really blend into the background.
The pictures don't really do it justice, but these are overhanging the sidewalk and a portion of the crosswalk, and are surprisingly hard to see from the back side unless you're really paying attention, and they are SHARP! I can see a lot of downtown revelers, and their kids, catching a head or shoulder on one of these and getting cut pretty badly. I'm surprised how low and intrusive these are.
The painted fronts of the signs are much easier to see, but the gray backsides really blend into the background.
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Hopefully they build the curb tall enough to prevent people from just jumping it to park in the bike lane
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There is no curb between the drive lane and bike lane. just those 2 white lines you see. in the plans there were armadillos shown up idk if those got value engineered outGoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑May 30, 2025Hopefully they build the curb tall enough to prevent people from just jumping it to park in the bike lane
You just know the utilities are looking at that fresh asphalt, licking their lips and rubbing their hands together in glee at the thought of digging that up then throwing metal plates across it so they can come back 4 months later to finish.Tim wrote: ↑May 30, 2025Things are moving at a good clip. That being said, what are your thoughts on these large metal signs about 4 feet off the ground?
The pictures don't really do it justice, but these are overhanging the sidewalk and a portion of the crosswalk, and are surprisingly hard to see from the back side unless you're really paying attention, and they are SHARP! I can see a lot of downtown revelers, and their kids, catching a head or shoulder on one of these and getting cut pretty badly. I'm surprised how low and intrusive these are.
The painted fronts of the signs are much easier to see, but the gray backsides really blend into the background.
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So these fresh bike lanes look nice, but people are currently just treating the lane like a parking spot. Been past a few times now and I don't think I've seen even one block of this free of parked cars.
Would be a shame to see this investment completely wasted by letting cars park on top of it. The armadillos are clearly ineffective protection.
Would be a shame to see this investment completely wasted by letting cars park on top of it. The armadillos are clearly ineffective protection.
Is it just me or does it seem like there are more wrong way drivers on this since the remodel? For the 3rd time in like the last 3 weeks I had a car come towards me/go the wrong way on 7th street in the part that is one way.
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that will be the case for another week or so, ive talked to the Treasurer about enforcement and they cannot do it until the Bike Lane signs are posted. There is still a bit of work to go.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jun 17, 2025So these fresh bike lanes look nice, but people are currently just treating the lane like a parking spot. Been past a few times now and I don't think I've seen even one block of this free of parked cars.
Would be a shame to see this investment completely wasted by letting cars park on top of it. The armadillos are clearly ineffective protection.
That’s a silly excuse. The infrastructure is there. They can enforce it. They could also install temporary no parking signage. Almost like it makes no sense for a non-transportation department to manage parking enforcement.
