you might be referring to others, but Cara introduced the bills for eminent domain of both RX and Millennium. so, really, she's the one that got the ball rolling on those two. (and as discussed earlier in the thread, all local reporting indicates that her bill is what lit a fire under the Millennium owner to sell.)JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Mar 28, 2025(4) moving important DT vacancies closer to development than they’ve been in 20 years.
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What’s the consensus on Darlene Green? Does she do an adequate job?
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THANK YOU! The credit for advancing Railway Exchange and Millennium goes to Cara Spencer. Look up BB 130, you're welcome.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025you might be referring to others, but Cara introduced the bills for eminent domain of both RX and Millennium. so, really, she's the one that got the ball rolling on those two. (and as discussed earlier in the thread, all local reporting indicates that her bill is what lit a fire under the Millennium owner to sell.)JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Mar 28, 2025(4) moving important DT vacancies closer to development than they’ve been in 20 years.
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Not this again, no it doesn’t. The negotiations between the buyer and seller of MH started in Nov 2023
whitherSTL wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025What’s the consensus on Darlene Green? Does she do an adequate job?
I wrote in Roman Burki for this race. Green to me is past her prime and her poor leadership is causing down stream issues for the city; accounts for projects are taking forever to set up, contractors aren’t getting paid in time and that costs the city money because next time they’ll bid higher on city work to account for the risk of delayed payment or won’t bid at all
Baringer is just looking for another retirement job and has presented no cohesive vision for the office, her entire campaign is that she isn’t Darlene green. After getting term limited out of the Missouri house, and Steve Butz running for senate, she had to find a landing spot
Not having a good candidate for this race is a set back
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Interesting, but October comes before November, and this bill was filed on Oct 6, 2023: https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/c ... mbined.pdfdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Not this again, no it doesn’t. The negotiations between the buyer and seller of MH started in Nov 2023
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Yeah man, a bill was filled Oct 6th with a study referenced and attached that got completed on Oct 31. Story like that has got to be truejivecitystl wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Interesting, but October comes before November, and this bill was filed on Oct 6, 2023: https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/c ... mbined.pdfdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Not this again, no it doesn’t. The negotiations between the buyer and seller of MH started in Nov 2023
And that’s railway. Not MH and as you can see the study from PGAV, submitted on 10/31 was started that summer after SLDC and GSL worked on this. At some point the alder got asked to carry the bill.
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Drawing on extensive research about polarization and partisanship, Talisse argues that certain core democratic capacities can be cultivated only at a distance from the political fray. If we are to meet the responsibilities of democratic citizenship, we must occasionally step away from our allies and opponents alike. We can perform this self-work only in secluded settings where we can engage in civic reflection that is not prepackaged in the idiom of our political divides, allowing us to contemplate political circumstances that are not our own. https://global.oup.com/academic/product ... us&lang=en&
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Baringer voting for state takeover of SLMPD is a deal breaker for me. Even though her replacement in the legislature would likely be better if she were to move into the Comptroller post.
The fact any Democrats voted for that sh*t is insane. Even a Republican voted against.
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so you're saying the bill was not actually introduced at the Oct. 6th 2023 full meeting of the BOA? maybe... the date on the PGAV study isn't accurate, because obviously it was introduced at the Oct. 6th meeting, and obviously one can't submit things that don't yet exist.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Yeah man, a bill was filled Oct 6th with a study referenced and attached that got completed on Oct 31. Story like that has got to be true
And that’s railway. Not MH and as you can see the study from PGAV, submitted on 10/31 was started that summer after SLDC and GSL worked on this. At some point the alder got asked to carry the bill.
and you've yet to provide any evidence of negotiations, much less that those negotiations would have led to a sale without the weight of ED behind them.
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Whatever explanation gymnastics you did there doesn't negate the fact that Cara Spencer has been front and center in both Railway Exchange and Millennium. https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 7519f98db4dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Yeah man, a bill was filled Oct 6th with a study referenced and attached that got completed on Oct 31. Story like that has got to be truejivecitystl wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Interesting, but October comes before November, and this bill was filed on Oct 6, 2023: https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/c ... mbined.pdfdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Not this again, no it doesn’t. The negotiations between the buyer and seller of MH started in Nov 2023
And that’s railway. Not MH and as you can see the study from PGAV, submitted on 10/31 was started that summer after SLDC and GSL worked on this. At some point the alder got asked to carry the bill.
If nothing else she definitely has a command of the PR around it- another demonstration of leadership.
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The gymnastics is I talked about Mh and you posted a bill about railway.
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See my post abovedbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025The gymnastics is I talked about Mh and you posted a bill about railway.
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I guess it's all relative. Spencer does not have to stretch to demonstrate her leadership on both the RX and Millennium projects. You can try to diminish her involvement but it's out there for all to see.
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At this point, Democrat is a meaningless label. The party has no political or ideological consensus.Auggie wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025The fact any Democrats voted for that sh*t is insane. Even a Republican voted against.
Cara Spencer says St. Louis can do better. If she becomes mayor, will she deliver?
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... e24eb.html.
My favorite part... Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, in her rebuttal, scoffed. “It’s easy to criticize something,” Jones said, “when you’ve never run it.” Until 4 years ago, Tishaura had "never run it". What's the argument there? Anyone who hasn't been Mayor shouldn't be Mayor? Go a step further, are residents allowed to criticize something because they've never "run it"?
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... e24eb.html.
My favorite part... Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, in her rebuttal, scoffed. “It’s easy to criticize something,” Jones said, “when you’ve never run it.” Until 4 years ago, Tishaura had "never run it". What's the argument there? Anyone who hasn't been Mayor shouldn't be Mayor? Go a step further, are residents allowed to criticize something because they've never "run it"?
Baringer isn't in the state legislature at present so she couldn't have voted for the state takeover this year. I believe she did vote for it previously.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2025Baringer voting for state takeover of SLMPD is a deal breaker for me. Even though her replacement in the legislature would likely be better if she were to move into the Comptroller post.
Almost every statement Jones makes comes across as incredibly arrogant, something you see so often from dynastic politicians. I did find the piece you linked to be a good read and does make the valid point that Spencer is promising a lot that will be incredibly difficult to deliver, especially given the overall weak (and diminishing) powers of the mayoral office.addxb2 wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025Cara Spencer says St. Louis can do better. If she becomes mayor, will she deliver?
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... e24eb.html.
My favorite part... Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, in her rebuttal, scoffed. “It’s easy to criticize something,” Jones said, “when you’ve never run it.” Until 4 years ago, Tishaura had "never run it". What's the argument there? Anyone who hasn't been Mayor shouldn't be Mayor? Go a step further, are residents allowed to criticize something because they've never "run it"?
My favorite part was where they mentioned population decline but nothing about the city's economic growth, business growth, work force growth, or the fact the city is and has been adding higher income residents while the losses are concentrated in low income.
I also really liked the part where the political scientist answer's the question of if she will be able to deliver and it was basically "At best, no."
I also really liked the part where the political scientist answer's the question of if she will be able to deliver and it was basically "At best, no."
Can't think of something more arrogant than running a campaign on promising to fix all the issues that no mayor has been able to fix in 70 years.Ebsy wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025Almost every statement Jones makes comes across as incredibly arrogant, something you see so often from dynastic politicians. I did find the piece you linked to be a good read and does make the valid point that Spencer is promising a lot that will be incredibly difficult to deliver, especially given the overall weak (and diminishing) powers of the mayoral office.addxb2 wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025Cara Spencer says St. Louis can do better. If she becomes mayor, will she deliver?
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... e24eb.html.
My favorite part... Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, in her rebuttal, scoffed. “It’s easy to criticize something,” Jones said, “when you’ve never run it.” Until 4 years ago, Tishaura had "never run it". What's the argument there? Anyone who hasn't been Mayor shouldn't be Mayor? Go a step further, are residents allowed to criticize something because they've never "run it"?
This is just a self reminder for after election- 835
Has Tishaura Jones ever promised to fix longstanding problems in the city?Auggie wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025Can't think of something more arrogant than running a campaign on promising to fix all the issues that no mayor has been able to fix in 70 years.Ebsy wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025Almost every statement Jones makes comes across as incredibly arrogant, something you see so often from dynastic politicians. I did find the piece you linked to be a good read and does make the valid point that Spencer is promising a lot that will be incredibly difficult to deliver, especially given the overall weak (and diminishing) powers of the mayoral office.addxb2 wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025Cara Spencer says St. Louis can do better. If she becomes mayor, will she deliver?
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... e24eb.html.
My favorite part... Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, in her rebuttal, scoffed. “It’s easy to criticize something,” Jones said, “when you’ve never run it.” Until 4 years ago, Tishaura had "never run it". What's the argument there? Anyone who hasn't been Mayor shouldn't be Mayor? Go a step further, are residents allowed to criticize something because they've never "run it"?
So all of a sudden gentrification is a selling point for Team Jones? I can't keep up.Auggie wrote: ↑Mar 30, 2025My favorite part was where they mentioned population decline but nothing about the city's economic growth, business growth, work force growth, or the fact the city is and has been adding higher income residents while the losses are concentrated in low income.
I also really liked the part where the political scientist answer's the question of if she will be able to deliver and it was basically "At best, no."