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PostFeb 18, 2025#6426

It’s like someone in the media got wind that there would be a couple nice articles about dining downtown. Thank you StL mag and DB for the articles about new restaurants downtown and your favorites. I enjoyed them very much.

No thanks to post dispatch for making sure to take it down with an article bringing up “there’s too much crime” and “nothing to do” downtown.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6427

Sick & tired hearing about there’s too much crime downtown & there’s nothing downtown. These same people will say the very same thing when BPV2 ATTbuilding Jefferson hotel RWX the food hall on Washington Ave all get redeveloped. They just aren’t happy people & they feed off negativity so no matter what downtown does it’ll never be good enough.


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PostFeb 18, 2025#6428

If Downtown (or the overall city) is successful that means the liberals win. It's a culture war issue now.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6429

soulardx wrote:
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Keep fighting the good PR fight for downtown Denis, but I fear you are increasingly isolated in your constant optimism. 

No matter, no one else is doing PR for downtown.  Instead, we get pieces like the below. I can't say I understand Newman's beat/role at the SLTPD.  this isn't exactly a feature.

Neman: It’s getting harder to find a place to eat downtown

https://www.stltoday.com/life-entertain ... the-latest
STL P-D isn't a pro-St. Louis newspaper. That would be part of the issue.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6430

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
If Downtown (or the overall city) is successful that means the liberals win. It's a culture war issue now.
Been that way for a long while.  I remember my HS History teacher telling the class not to go east of Kingshighway Blvd back in 1978.  Media hyper focus has definitely exacerbated the political divide over the last eight years and it sure looks like It'll continue unabated.  Uphill battle ahead. 

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6431

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
If Downtown (or the overall city) is successful that means the liberals win. It's a culture war issue now.
This is post is interesting. By that reasoning, are liberals losing?

I’m confused, there aren’t many conservative stakeholders downtown. Maybe Ron K, DeWitt and Stillman? That’s about it.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6432

whitherSTL wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
If Downtown (or the overall city) is successful that means the liberals win. It's a culture war issue now.
This is post is interesting. By that reasoning, are liberals losing?

I’m confused, there aren’t many conservative stakeholders downtown. Maybe Ron K, DeWitt and Stillman? That’s about it.
Normal people don't view things as "us vs them" like you do. Nor do those people who you've labeled as "conservative" with no evidence to support that assertion. Pretty much only the far-right see everything as us vs them. Hence why the state is trying to take over the city police while simultaneously refusing to provide more funding for the police, failing to fund their own state police force, and not providing a single point of evidence for why a state takeover will make any impact.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6433

whitherSTL wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
If Downtown (or the overall city) is successful that means the liberals win. It's a culture war issue now.
This is post is interesting. By that reasoning, are liberals losing?
Yes, the liberals are losing the culture war. Have you been living in a cave since November 4th? I assume so. You sound like a knuckle dragger

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6434

Auggie wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
whitherSTL wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
If Downtown (or the overall city) is successful that means the liberals win. It's a culture war issue now.
This is post is interesting. By that reasoning, are liberals losing?

I’m confused, there aren’t many conservative stakeholders downtown. Maybe Ron K, DeWitt and Stillman? That’s about it.
Normal people don't view things as "us vs them" like you do. Nor do those people who you've labeled as "conservative" with no evidence to support that assertion. Pretty much only the far-right see everything as us vs them. Hence why the state is trying to take over the city police while simultaneously refusing to provide more funding for the police, failing to fund their own state police force, and not providing a single point of evidence for why a state takeover will make any impact.
The governor addressed that previously on the grounds that (paraphrasing) we only care about vibes, and the vibes are bad.  The state must control SLMPD until the vibes improve.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6435

We live in an own the libs economy.

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PostFeb 18, 2025#6436

SB in BH wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
Auggie wrote:
Feb 18, 2025
whitherSTL wrote:
Feb 18, 2025

This is post is interesting. By that reasoning, are liberals losing?

I’m confused, there aren’t many conservative stakeholders downtown. Maybe Ron K, DeWitt and Stillman? That’s about it.
Normal people don't view things as "us vs them" like you do. Nor do those people who you've labeled as "conservative" with no evidence to support that assertion. Pretty much only the far-right see everything as us vs them. Hence why the state is trying to take over the city police while simultaneously refusing to provide more funding for the police, failing to fund their own state police force, and not providing a single point of evidence for why a state takeover will make any impact.
The governor addressed that previously on the grounds that (paraphrasing) we only care about vibes, and the vibes are bad.  The state must control SLMPD until the vibes improve.
Well that's my point. It's not based on anything except vibes (emotion) and who sets the vibes? The media.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6437

I'm all for more positive news out of downtown but we can't turn a blind eye to stuff like this.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 50671.html

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6438

Baltimore Jack wrote:
Feb 19, 2025
I'm all for more positive news out of downtown but we can't turn a blind eye to stuff like this.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 50671.html
Yea we don't. But the state does nothing to help the poor and homeless and our efforts to do so get blocked by state judges. St. Louis can't be expected to do the jobs of a city, county, and state all at once.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6439

Baltimore Jack wrote:
Feb 19, 2025
I'm all for more positive news out of downtown but we can't turn a blind eye to stuff like this.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 50671.html
That’s not a downtown STL issue. That’s a regional embarrassment

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6440

And this is adjecent to the water shut off issue in the Mayor race thread. The idea behind not shutting off water is because some people literally cannot pay their water bill on time. Not saying that's all of them, just that it's some of them. The idea is that by not shutting off water, you give their budget a little bit of relief and hopefully they can get back to a financially stable place and not.....ohh I don't know.....become homeless.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6441

Sometimes you wonder why the post can’t get readers and then features writer does a story how he only has 30 min for lunch and is lazy to walk more then a block but decides not to give that disclaimer in the story
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PostFeb 19, 2025#6442

Post-Dispatch: Moves to a crappy office location removed from where most of downtown's restaurants are.

Also Post-Dispatch: Why aren't there more restaurants by our office?

It's like an actual joke.

I get that they obviously can't afford higher tier office space, but they should at least do their due diligence before writing a story meant to make downtown out as being dead or dying.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6443

I didn't say the homeless woman freezing to death was a downtown or city issue. But it happened downtown and I thought this was a thread to discuss all happenings there--good and bad.

Yes our region and stats need to do better when it comes to the unhoused.

But we shouldn't be so thin skinned about downtown that we can't recognize that this is a tragedy that happened right in the heart of it.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6444

Why aren't there more restaurants by our office?
(move to restaurants thread?)
https://www.stlmag.com/dining/10-favorite-downtown-restaurants/

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6445

Since this administration took office, downtown has experienced significant progress. The Butler Brothers building, once vacant, has been transformed into 384 apartments. The former Downtown YMCA, previously unoccupied, is now the remarkable 21c Museum Hotel. The long-empty Jefferson Arms is just months away from reopening as a mixed-use development featuring 235 apartments, a 225-room hotel, and eight businesses.

The AT&T building, once stagnant, now has a $350 million redevelopment plan, while the long-dormant Millennium site is set for a $670 million transformation. The Railway Exchange, previously inactive, is now progressing toward a redevelopment request for proposals. The Municipal Courts Building, which sat vacant for years, currently has two redevelopment proposals under consideration. Additionally, underutilized lots in Downtown West are slated for projects exceeding $250 million.

This level of progress marks the most significant wave of downtown revitalization since the loft redevelopment boom of the early 2000s.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6446

Great stuff. This can co-exist with and compliment BPV as opposed to being a finger up at the Cardinals.

That said, its still just renderings and until theres shovels in the ground and tenants announced I will hold my breath.

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PostFeb 19, 2025#6447

Suburban Sprawl wrote:
Feb 19, 2025
Great stuff. This can co-exist with and compliment BPV as opposed to being a finger up at the Cardinals.

That said, its still just renderings and until theres shovels in the ground and tenants announced I will hold my breath.
A development like this will likely make BPV more popular.

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PostFeb 20, 2025#6448

Anyone know who runs this account?  Never heard of Downtown North, but it has 2k followers. 

https://www.linkedin.com/company/downto ... edView=all

PostFeb 20, 2025#6449

Associated members is Eli Robinson but the website link is bad or deemed "unsafe" but my web browser. 

Is this the Globe building district hype machine?  

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PostFeb 20, 2025#6450

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
Feb 20, 2025
Anyone know who runs this account?  Never heard of Downtown North, but it has 2k followers. 

https://www.linkedin.com/company/downto ... edView=all
Downtown North is the people associated with the Global building and this is their branding for the surrounding area.   The account and an associated podcast is run by Cartel, which moved to the global building either last year or year before
https://downtownnorthstl.com

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