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Anyone have insight on Michael Butler? 

I listened to his interview on the NPR podcast and he seemed just as worthy of consideration as Jones or Spencer. 

I'm not shy about my contempt for the MO General Assembly but recognize we need to play ball with those morons and that seems like a legitimate benefit of a Butler administration relative to Jones/Spencer.

Not seen one Michael Butler sign in an actual home's front yard in SW City.  He's got a bunch of big signs on business properties along Hampton, Kingshighway, Jamieson, and Chippewa.  Auggie avoiding the side streets, just like the city plows?

Thanks. Doesn't seem much different from Jones or Spencer policy-wise. 

Looking for insight on his performance as Recorder of Deeds and/or his relationship to the established party/family structure in St. Louis. From what I can tell, he's not related to any of the ruling families on the North Side (Jones), nor does he appear indebted to the monied interests (arguable both Spencer and Jones). 

I've noticed a few Butler signs around Holly Hills and Carondelet but not as many as Spencer. Only one Jones to date.

I wrote about butler in my longer write up about the campaign

Thanks. Regarding the Party, what would constitute a "positive" result in this reddest of red states? What was the controversy you reference?

TalkinDev wrote: ↑

Feb 13, 2025

Not seen one Michael Butler sign in an actual home's front yard in SW City.  He's got a bunch of big signs on business properties along Hampton, Kingshighway, Jamieson, and Chippewa.  Auggie avoiding the side streets, just like the city plows?

I've counted 7 Michael Butler signs in SW city, 1 off Eichelberger, 4 off Macklind, and one on a backyard fence visible from Chippewa. One more but I don't exactly remember which street.

All 4 on Macklind were between Pernod and Fyler.

I've yet to see anything for him on Hampton or Kingshighway. Business or not.

Most of the houses I have seen with Jones signs have been houses that I know are Republicans and have signs every cycle so I wouldn't expect him to get many more votes than a Republicans typically would.

Ebsy wrote: ↑

Feb 13, 2025

Most of the houses I have seen with Jones signs have been houses that I know are Republicans and have signs every cycle so I wouldn't expect him to get many more votes than a Republicans typically would.

Yea I wouldn't either.

Butler's best hope is that enough Spencer voters also cast ballots for him and he sneaks by Tishaura for 2nd place.

Pretty unlikely but not impossible.

I'm concerned by Spencer's comment about Metrolink in this forum. “At $6.77 per person per mile, four times what it costs to take an Uber, is this worth mortgaging out for the next 50 years, for five miles?”

I mean, I'd maybe be interested if she'd proposed spending more $$ on bus service but we're all paying a 50 cent sales tax to fund this thing what is proposed that we do with that money collecting in a bank account somewhere? 
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... -black-men

Yea, that’s it for me. No to Spencer. Will be voting for Tishaura Jones.

If you can’t see the value of expanding transit in StL when leaders in other cities all across the country see the value in expanding it, then I can’t vote for you.The Uber comment doesn’t even make sense

It should 100% be a priority to expand.

That’s it for me, T Jones it is

Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2025

Butler's best hope is that enough Spencer voters also cast ballots for him and he sneaks by Tishaura for 2nd place.

Pretty unlikely but not impossible.

Butler and Mayor Jones endorsed each other last night

What an unforced error. Really stupid compression that car-brained poeple make.

Just a stunning flip flop. First it was the workhouse and now this. You can just pretend to be for or against something around elections

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2025

Just a stunning flip flop.  First it was the workhouse and now this.  You can just pretend to be for or against something around elections

Does Cara no longer support the green line ?

STLAPTS wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2025

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2025

Just a stunning flip flop.  First it was the workhouse and now this.  You can just pretend to be for or against something around elections

Does Cara no longer support the green line ?

From last nights mayoral forum, sure seems like she doesnt

Spencer said the project had the potential to become an expensive boondoggle.

“At $6.77 per person per mile, four times what it costs to take an Uber, is this worth mortgaging out for the next 50 years, for five miles?” she asked.

Or
"Given the uncertainty on DC, and the increasing cost of the Green line, I think we should put transit dollars into improving bus infrastructure, build BRT lines, and increasing bus service, so we improve transit for more people more quickly. A the city level we can put in bus lanes, implement traffic signal priority for buses, improve bus stops without much Federal or state support."

^The Mayor who put that $$ into say doubling bus line frequency in the City would get undying support from anyone who actually has to ride Metro to get around. But Cara's campaign seems kind of anti-vision, like that's her mo, we just fix trash and streets that's it.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Feb 14, 2025

Or
"Given the uncertainty on DC, and the increasing cost of the Green line, I think we should put transit dollars into improving bus infrastructure, build BRT lines, and increasing bus service, so we improve transit for more people more quickly. A the city level we can put in bus lanes, implement traffic signal priority for buses, improve bus stops without much Federal or state support."

You can’t do that tho; the local funding for greenline by law has to be used for light rail.

Candidates promise things they can't do all the time.
Not all our local transit funding or city transportation money is bound to Metrolink.

Gotta say, if I were mayor I would be planning for more robust BRT at the expense of a compromised green line.  Stops have already been cut. How do think this is really gonna play out?  Hard to beleive there wont be more value engineering as the plan moves forward, that is of course if the feds don't just say no.  

Like I've said before, this year's Spencer is absolutely not 2021 Spencer.

As for transit, obviously the Green Line would be the absolute best investment the city can make and I've said that if I were king, I would put all the Rams money towards it.

But it's true that without *at least* federal loans, it's not gonna happen. So I wouldn't be opposed to shelving it until a less insane administration is in power if they won't play ball at all.

However I'm also pretty against "BRT". I'd much rather just make frequency and amenity improvements to the existing bus system instead of blowing tons of money on a glorified bus line and act line it's as good as light rail when it's absolutely not at all.