2021: 755 permitsAuggie wrote:"I'm just saying, the massive not seen in decades turnaround for development in North City has nothing to do with the mayor who ran on spurring more development in North City."
Elections are usually pretty big opportunities for the average person. We’ll see!Auggie wrote: As if what the "average" person thinks has any impact on real life at all. Good lord.
2017-2020 City-wide Value: $5.3Baddxb2 wrote: ↑Feb 10, 20252021: 755 permitsAuggie wrote:"I'm just saying, the massive not seen in decades turnaround for development in North City has nothing to do with the mayor who ran on spurring more development in North City."
2024: 688 permits
2021: $154.8 M
2024: $163 M
Let’s be careful of overemphasizing fairly mundane increases. I’d never describe that as massive.
Here is what I’ll do. Tonight, I will pull the building permit data myself. You tell me the date range you think I should review. I’ll look at a sample of each year and let you know if it convinces me that Jones unlocked private investment in North St. Louis.Auggie wrote:No, you can show all the data the correct way or pick out data to support your position, like you did.
It's like arguing with a brick wall. Zero logic, reasoning, or common sense going on here. It's all just a big coincidence.
I think you just don’t like that elections don’t have to be empirical. I think if I provided you data, you’d just move the goal line. Another difference, I don’t hate Jones like you seem to hate Spencer.Auggie wrote:What I wish you'd do is explain a comprehensive, empirical, reasoned argument as to why Spencer will be better than Jones has been. Which is something that is yet to be done. You could be the first!
So in other words, "I don't have an argument, i have my feelings." Thank you for proving my point.addxb2 wrote: ↑Feb 10, 2025I think you just don’t like that elections don’t have to be empirical. I think if I provided you data, you’d just move the goal line. Another difference, I don’t hate Jones like you seem to hate Spencer.Auggie wrote:What I wish you'd do is explain a comprehensive, empirical, reasoned argument as to why Spencer will be better than Jones has been. Which is something that is yet to be done. You could be the first!
I’d vote for Spencer because I think she brings a more collaborative and moderate take on city services. I think she’d bring more energy to the office. She understands how the City government works and has been responsive to residents in my experience.
I think Jones has a poor track record at choosing leaders. I think she takes way too long to ask questions of her leaders and she has been weak on Downtown. Downtown doesn’t need all the money, it needs a champion. It feels like her (and Green) take enjoyment out of depriving downtown of that champion. This constant implication that Downtown residents and businesses are less City of St. Louis than JVL or Tower Grove. Downtown is just an annoyance to them.
You don’t because you don’t have any. Spencer isn’t Mayor. You refuse to attribute any of the good news/data you’ve shared to the legislative body. You’re looking at four turbulent years, refusing to accept that there could be anomalies in play, and demand “The Mayor did it. There can’t be anything better than this.”Auggie wrote:My entire argument is based on facts and data. If the facts and data were favorable to Spencer, then I'd support her.
Trailnet has linked part of the session.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 11, 2025Overflow crowd for the Mayoral transportation forum.
And immaterial side streets in St. Louis hills being icy 10 days after a historic snowfall is not any grand failure of the administration. But these things don’t get judged in their proper context.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Feb 12, 2025The ICL move was because they determined the South site wouldn’t work. Not any grand thing the administration did.
Butler: 7Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Feb 12, 2025Soulard and Benton Park are covered in signs for Spencer. I've seen none for Tishaura in Soulard and one in BP.
