Happy (but really quite sad) to provide. Center of our street is still literally a few inches of dense ice. Cars are constantly slipping here.
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This morning, unexpectedly, snow plows came and cleared the center or my street. The left a little pocket of ice piles along each side that I went out and shoveled away from my vehicle. I am still not sure if this was the result of my email sent Friday. I hope my neighbors shovel as well. I have shoveled very generously on several areas since we don't have dedicated street parking. I have not seen many neighbors out nor have then been as thorough.brianadler6545 wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025Happy (but really quite sad) to provide. Center of our street is still literally a few inches of dense ice. Cars are constantly slipping here.
Conversation was derailed when people told me that I in fact could not drive to work on Monday because of the snow when I in fact did drive to work on a nearly completely clear city street the morning following the storm because the city had worked all night on primary plows routes.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025This is true, Auggie. Some of the examples shown are a bit over dramatized and I think it’s unrealistic to expect the city to have the streets clean enough to eat off of a couple days after a once in a decade storm.Auggie wrote:In this thread, we have seen people send pictures of completely clear streets and then say actually there's snow on them.
Now we are sending pictures of streets that are literally not clear and saying they are better cleared than STL's clear streets.
What a parody.
At the same time, you completely derailed the conversation by brow beating those who brought up legitimate issues with the response from the city.
Literally someone telling me that I didn't drive to work both days following the snow on nearly entirely clear streets when I in fact did. Thank you for trying to gaslight me but it won't work so you can stop.dweebe wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025The point is it's a near coastal city 700 miles to the south of us with little equipment and almost no salt.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025In this thread, we have seen people send pictures of completely clear streets and then say actually there's snow on them.
Now we are sending pictures of streets that are literally not clear and saying they are better cleared than STL's clear streets.
What a parody.
By "clear" I don't mean dry and perfect but at least all of the lanes are travelable less than 24 hours after an 8-11" event.
This is Napoleon Street which is comparable to Olive, Lindell, Choteau or Manchester here. Those roads were still unplowed disasters more that 48 hours after then end of our snow.
It's just crazy driving in neighborhoods like The Hill and Holly Hills where it's still just the two tracks and a center rib that your tires bump up against. Reminds me of the Moon Cars ride at Six Flags.
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Jones has posted Facebook and X videos I know. But the last I saw was 6 days ago.
Is there a reason why she didn't attend to answer questions herself at the public safety meeting when Betheby Williams was in the hot seat?
Honest question. Please don't jump down my throat on this.
Is there a reason why she didn't attend to answer questions herself at the public safety meeting when Betheby Williams was in the hot seat?
Honest question. Please don't jump down my throat on this.
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The thing is, no one told you what your experience with the snow was. No one commented on your drive to work.Auggie wrote:Conversation was derailed when people told me that I in fact could not drive to work on Monday because of the snow when I in fact did drive to work on a nearly completely clear city street the morning following the storm because the city had worked all night on primary plows routes.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025This is true, Auggie. Some of the examples shown are a bit over dramatized and I think it’s unrealistic to expect the city to have the streets clean enough to eat off of a couple days after a once in a decade storm.Auggie wrote:In this thread, we have seen people send pictures of completely clear streets and then say actually there's snow on them.
Now we are sending pictures of streets that are literally not clear and saying they are better cleared than STL's clear streets.
What a parody.
At the same time, you completely derailed the conversation by brow beating those who brought up legitimate issues with the response from the city.
People shared their own personal experience with it and you completely threw a fit over it.
Last I see is from 2 days ago. The last 2 days have been dominated by the Rams money spending, police 7% raise, and now testifying in Jefferson City to try and stop the state from taking over the PD.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025Jones has posted Facebook and X videos I know. But the last I saw was 6 days ago.
Is there a reason why she didn't attend to answer questions herself at the public safety meeting when Betheby Williams was in the hot seat?
Honest question. Please don't jump down my throat on this.
Does the Americans with Disabilities Act include any language pertaining to sidewalk accessibility during snow/ice storms?
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what if they are elderly folks?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025They should probably put their phone down and watch the road
Then they shouldn't be driving if they can't adjust to road conditions. What does age have to do with anything? What if that snow mound was a person?stlurbanist wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025what if they are elderly folks?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025They should probably put their phone down and watch the road
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Agree in theory but in reality our cities aren't designed to support elderly mobility without vehicles (tragically). At least in our current environment not driving for elderly people is akin to loneliness, and within the urban areas of our city, it's harder to find homes without stairs._nomad_ wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025Then they shouldn't be driving if they can't adjust to road conditions. What does age have to do with anything? What if that snow mound was a person?
If someone cannot avoid a road obstacle, whether that's a snow mound or a person, that someone should not be driving. This is a safety issue, not just for the driver but for every other road user. I am not willing to ask people to sacrifice their safety so that elderly people (or anyone else) who shouldn't be on the road can live in the suburbs. There are plenty of other living options and plenty more we could doing to expand those options rather than endangering others on the roads.brianadler6545 wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025Agree in theory but in reality our cities aren't designed to support elderly mobility without vehicles (tragically). At least in our current environment not driving for elderly people is akin to loneliness, and within the urban areas of our city, it's harder to find homes without stairs.
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I just shoveled this afternoon. Not snow or ice, but about 30 beer cans. Someone must have placed a large paper bag behind a dumpster filled with them, and they all ended up loose in front of my garage door. All the dumpsters are overflowing, so I had to just chuck them off to the side. I'm sure they'll get blown my way again. I have a full trash bag in my kitchen that's starting to smell. I guess I'll keep it in my garage until the trash is finally picked up.
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where is this? Does this street not get any sun - it's rather strange that there is so much snow.
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Mayor gave a B-minus grade to St. Louis snow response midway
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... -top-story
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... -top-story
Mayor Jones gives the city a “B Minus” grade on the snowstorm response.
A lot of folks on this thread are acting like it was either an “F” or a “A+”, but I agree with Tishaura’s assessment. There is room for improvement and the storm definitely had a serious impact on many residents and business, but I can’t expect an A+ response to a a once in a decade storm.
A lot of folks on this thread are acting like it was either an “F” or a “A+”, but I agree with Tishaura’s assessment. There is room for improvement and the storm definitely had a serious impact on many residents and business, but I can’t expect an A+ response to a a once in a decade storm.
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It's definitely not an F, though haters on Nextdoor probably think it should be F minus minus .
But B- is definitely grade inflation.
C- at best.
But B- is definitely grade inflation.
C- at best.
Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2025It's definitely not an F, though haters on Nextdoor probably think it should be F minus minus .
But B- is blatant grade inflation.
C- at best.
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Yeah I mean your on the most extreme end of the snowstorm response criticism on this forum and your giving it a C-, so it’s probably closer to the grade Tishaura gave.Baltimore Jack wrote:Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2025It's definitely not an F, though haters on Nextdoor probably think it should be F minus minus .
But B- is blatant grade inflation.
C- at best.
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Wherever one lives be prepared fire, hurricane, earthquake, etc. Here it's the sort of storm that we just went through. Right now; prepare for the next storm this season or in a future season. Obtain/stash rock salt, chemicals,steel shovel ,a pic,something to put under your vehicle tires should you get stuck. When out o the streets get walking sticks. Get an orange or neon green vest to wear. If I missed something on this and readers have more/ better suggestions please add on to this list.
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I would give a B or low B+ for the city. MoDOT gets a D+ or low C-. County gets a B+ or low A-.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2025Mayor Jones gives the city a “B Minus” grade on the snowstorm response.
A lot of folks on this thread are acting like it was either an “F” or a “A+”, but I agree with Tishaura’s assessment. There is room for improvement and the storm definitely had a serious impact on many residents and business, but I can’t expect an A+ response to a a once in a decade storm.