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January 2025 Snowstorm

January 2025 Snowstorm

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PostJan 06, 2025#1

It's been a while since I've seen the streets this quiet. Gonna take a few days for the area to dig out of this one.

Of course, the average Joe on Nextdoor doesn't understand why THEIR street hasn't been cleared yet. 

Stay safe, everyone.   

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PostJan 06, 2025#2

The quiet is so nice. A silver lining to the walk to work. Cities aren't loud, cars are.

The snow isn't going to melt for a while either. usually you can count on it melting soon thereafter.

And don't ask people to clear their sidewalks, at least not on Reddit, sheesh!

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PostJan 06, 2025#3

I am cleaning my car in phases. Completed two phases and still there is ton of snow left. Last time I saw this much snow was back in 2010/2011?

I am already dreading my bus connections for tomorrow.

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PostJan 06, 2025#4

Streets seem pretty decent. All the major buses should be running on a somewhat normal schedule.

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PostJan 06, 2025#5

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Streets seem pretty decent. All the major buses should be running on a somewhat normal schedule.
thank you! that's a relief.

PostJan 07, 2025#6

Auggie wrote:
Jan 06, 2025
Streets seem pretty decent. All the major buses should be running on a somewhat normal schedule.
nope, that was a wishful thinking. only a handful of buses operating today and that too only until 8p.

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PostJan 07, 2025#7

Yeah, every side street in the central corridor pretty bad still.  Some of the NS arterials like Euclid, Boyle, Taylor are better/passable but by no means "clear".  Lots of sedans not stopping at stop signs as they don't want to lose momentum.

FPA is pretty tough in patches, and one lane clear in others.  Highway in good shape, but on/off ramps are dicey.  The 14th st onramp to 64 WB pretty much has no merge lane, so more of an insertion point, LOL

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PostJan 07, 2025#8

I live at the top of a hill on a small street in U City. I was able to back all the way down to an arterial, but I don't know if I'll make it back up to get home this evening.

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PostJan 07, 2025#9

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Yeah, every side street in the central corridor pretty bad still.  Some of the NS arterials like Euclid, Boyle, Taylor are better/passable but by no means "clear".  Lots of sedans not stopping at stop signs as they don't want to lose momentum.

FPA is pretty tough in patches, and one lane clear in others.  Highway in good shape, but on/off ramps are dicey.  The 14th st onramp to 64 WB pretty much has no merge lane, so more of an insertion point, LOL
yeah let us snow plough main roads and highways and shove the snow into arterial streets...lol

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PostJan 07, 2025#10

Well, my street (and my open parking lot behind our condo, off the alley) are not plowed.  I parked on the street hoping it would fare better (not having to navigate both a parking lot and the alley).  Our street is not snow packed from traffic BUT there is ice mixed in there and it was a challenge to get out (had to scrape at ice and get a push from a neighbor) and to get back in.

I am not seeing relief this week, so I am hoping to get my hands on a shovel to at least dig more on where I parked on the street, and heck maybe even some of the open spots on the street in the event mine is nabbed if I get out.

Now I know why people in Philly put chairs out after they shoveled their car out LOL.

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PostJan 09, 2025#11

The exaggeration and complete misunderstanding about snow from people regarding this particular snowstorm is insane.

The streets are buy and large clear. The main streets (at least in the city) were mostly clear the morning after. Streets aren't getting worse.

Why didn't they plow your random side street? Because that's not how it works. They will knock off mirrors, scratch paint, and ultimately bury your car if they run a plow down your random side street.

I've never been gaslit more in my life than with STL social media and this snowstorm. I literally am driving around with zero issue and then see some moron acting like it's still just as bad as ever....

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PostJan 10, 2025#12

I am not sure where you drive, but Hickory, Mississippi are not good.  Try driving down Missouri from Park, which was already narrow and now people are parking further from the curb.

I get we might not have the right equipment?  But outsource is to get it done.

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PostJan 10, 2025#13

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Jan 09, 2025
The exaggeration and complete misunderstanding about snow from people regarding this particular snowstorm is insane.

The streets are buy and large clear. The main streets (at least in the city) were mostly clear the morning after. Streets aren't getting worse.

Why didn't they plow your random side street? Because that's not how it works. They will knock off mirrors, scratch paint, and ultimately bury your car if they run a plow down your random side street.

I've never been gaslit more in my life than with STL social media and this snowstorm. I literally am driving around with zero issue and then see some moron acting like it's still just as bad as ever....
Have you been downtown? None of the parking lanes are available let alone are the traffic lanes even cleared. How about 64 EB? The lane to the 22nd street exit hasn't been touched. There were 3 cars all stuck on the highway last night. 

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PostJan 10, 2025#14

I posted on the mayoral election thread about the potential of the snowstorm response to affect the results. I strongly believe it could be a major factor.

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PostJan 10, 2025#15

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Auggie wrote:
Jan 09, 2025
The exaggeration and complete misunderstanding about snow from people regarding this particular snowstorm is insane.

The streets are buy and large clear. The main streets (at least in the city) were mostly clear the morning after. Streets aren't getting worse.

Why didn't they plow your random side street? Because that's not how it works. They will knock off mirrors, scratch paint, and ultimately bury your car if they run a plow down your random side street.

I've never been gaslit more in my life than with STL social media and this snowstorm. I literally am driving around with zero issue and then see some moron acting like it's still just as bad as ever....
Have you been downtown? None of the parking lanes are available let alone are the traffic lanes even cleared. How about 64 EB? The lane to the 22nd street exit hasn't been touched. There were 3 cars all stuck on the highway last night. 
I've been all around south city and haven't had an issue. Haven't even seen anyone stuck since Tuesday. All the major roads are clear and the major side streets are clear too.

Made it out to South County today- unsurprisingly had 0 issue and every major road was clear.

Haven't been on the highways but that's on the state not the city or county. Though my dad, who uses 64 daily, says it's fine.

Parking lanes aren't available because that's where they out the snow from the driving lanes. Like holy ***** use your brain.

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I posted on the mayoral election thread about the potential of the snowstorm response to affect the results. I strongly believe it could be a major factor.
If this has any impact on the mayoral election, this city is as brain dead as the state. Clearly no one knows what big snow is like because this isn't that bad, the city and county's response isn't that bad, and yet everyone can't handle it.

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PostJan 10, 2025#17

This is how Compton Ave. at Cherokee looked at 2:00pm today.  If you want to park on Compton or Cherokee, good luck.  You'll have to either climb a mountain of snow, or park in middle of the street.  Needless to say, we haven't even been able to open our shop this week because it's pretty much impossible to park safely anywhere on the entire block. Compton may not be a "major" thoroughfare, but it's not exactly a little side street either. The fact that not a single snowflake has fallen in four days and the street is still looks like this is a sign that there is room for improvement when it comes to snow removal.. Not a good week for small businesses on Cherokee, I can tell you that. Also, it has caused us to miss important deliveries because the trucks can't load/unload anywhere safely. And with more snow expected overnight, we can assume it will only be worse tomorrow. 
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PostJan 10, 2025#18

Yeah, it’s been pretty bad on E/W streets in CWE/Midtown/downtown corridor. Parkway is cleared two lanes from Kingshighway to Skinker but narrows to one lane pretty much everywhere else. You have to sit through 3-4 light cycles at every intersection. Maybe we got an inch or two more. We measured 8.5” in our back yard. Just yesterday saw UPS truck spun out on 22nd street off-ramp and a car on Jefferson off-ramp (both EB). All the off-ramps, including county 64/170 seem to be poorly plowed/cleared.

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PostJan 10, 2025#19

been pretty bad on E/W streets in CWE/Midtown/downtown corridor
Compton Ave. at Cherokee looked at 2:00pm today
Is the "where do we put all the snow" a  reason why it is not plowed?
Manpower defect, poor equipment, lack of organization also issues?

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PostJan 10, 2025#20

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This is how Compton Ave. at Cherokee looked at 2:00pm today.  If you want to park on Compton or Cherokee, good luck.  You'll have to either climb a mountain of snow, or park in middle of the street.  Needless to say, we haven't even been able to open our shop this week because it's pretty much impossible to park safely anywhere on the entire block. Compton may not be a "major" thoroughfare, but it's not exactly a little side street either. The fact that not a single snowflake has fallen in four days and the street is still looks like this is a sign that there is room for improvement when it comes to snow removal.. Not a good week for small businesses on Cherokee, I can tell you that. Also, it has caused us to miss important deliveries because the trucks can't load/unload anywhere safely. And with more snow expected overnight, we can assume it will only be worse tomorrow. Snow1.jpgSnow2.jpg
You posted two pictures of a completely down to pavement clear street. I don't know where you expect the snow to go.... would you rather them push the snow up on the sidewalk so we have more space for cars and less space for humans to walk?

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been pretty bad on E/W streets in CWE/Midtown/downtown corridor
Compton Ave. at Cherokee looked at 2:00pm today
Is the "where do we put all the snow" a  reason why it is not plowed?
Manpower defect, poor equipment, lack of organization also issues?
The county says they have a manpower shortage. But the clear misunderstanding with the public is the question of where to put the snow. Zero people understand that "plowing snow" doesn't just make it disappear. Argued with someone the other day who was complaining about how Jaimeson wasn't clear, but also complained about how the plow pushed the snow up on the sidewalk at the corner of Landsdowne and Jaimeson. You can't have both clear streets and low snow banks. But no one seems to understand that.

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PostJan 10, 2025#22

Yeah, we get it. The streets are passable for most cars. Still dicey in a lot of areas, still takes extra time. I think it could’ve been a much better response with 10 day notice from NWS that a major event was happening, and modot has zero excuse for the ramps

Today saw some good melting.

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And you are right, it’s a volume issue, and we have to accept single lane and sketchy merges for now.

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PostJan 10, 2025#24

Auggie wrote:
Jan 10, 2025
stlgasm wrote:
Jan 10, 2025
This is how Compton Ave. at Cherokee looked at 2:00pm today.  If you want to park on Compton or Cherokee, good luck.  You'll have to either climb a mountain of snow, or park in middle of the street.  Needless to say, we haven't even been able to open our shop this week because it's pretty much impossible to park safely anywhere on the entire block. Compton may not be a "major" thoroughfare, but it's not exactly a little side street either. The fact that not a single snowflake has fallen in four days and the street is still looks like this is a sign that there is room for improvement when it comes to snow removal.. Not a good week for small businesses on Cherokee, I can tell you that. Also, it has caused us to miss important deliveries because the trucks can't load/unload anywhere safely. And with more snow expected overnight, we can assume it will only be worse tomorrow. Snow1.jpgSnow2.jpg
You posted two pictures of a completely down to pavement clear street. I don't know where you expect the snow to go.... would you rather them push the snow up on the sidewalk so we have more space for cars and less space for humans to walk?
Columbia MO used to push the snow into the middle of the street in a huge temporary snow median. I didn't particularly think it was a better alternative, but there are alternatives. (Silverton Colorado did that too, by the way. Though, for every inch of show we get they get feet. Probably more than one.) Anyway . . . yeah, this isn't really that bad. Does it make driving inconvenient? Yep. Makes walking even worse, since people don't know how to shovel a sidewalk anymore. (Or maybe no one has the time because everyone is exhausted trying to drive constantly.) I don't think this is so much an indictment of the mayor, or St. Louis government, as it is of car culture and our dependence on street parking and driving. I cleared my sidewalk twice: once after the ice and the first bit of snow, and then again after the second bit of snow. We could, in theory, all do that and then we'd have nice sidewalks. We could walk and take the bus. Bluebirds could sing and angels might dance on my front porch.

Or we could complain. About the weather. And cars. And politicians. And our neighbors. It might be more cathartic when your back is sore and your wallet is empty.

stlgasm, you're awesome and I hope you know I appreciate everything you do. But I think I'm with Auggie this time.

Oh, the weather outside is frightful,
But the snow is so delightful.

*ducks*
. . . 

*peeks over the snow wall*

As long as you love me so, oh
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.

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PostJan 10, 2025#25

stlgasm wrote:
Jan 10, 2025
This is how Compton Ave. at Cherokee looked at 2:00pm today.  If you want to park on Compton or Cherokee, good luck.  You'll have to either climb a mountain of snow, or park in middle of the street.  Needless to say, we haven't even been able to open our shop this week because it's pretty much impossible to park safely anywhere on the entire block. Compton may not be a "major" thoroughfare, but it's not exactly a little side street either. The fact that not a single snowflake has fallen in four days and the street is still looks like this is a sign that there is room for improvement when it comes to snow removal.. Not a good week for small businesses on Cherokee, I can tell you that. Also, it has caused us to miss important deliveries because the trucks can't load/unload anywhere safely. And with more snow expected overnight, we can assume it will only be worse tomorrow. Snow1.jpgSnow2.jpg
If that’s your sidewalk, I can’t help but notice it hasn’t been shoveled.

Anyway, the situation isn’t perfect but this is what, a once in a decade event? Once in two decades? Hard to justify the capital expenditure on equipment that will spend almost its entire life in storage. And even then you have to find people who know to competently operate it.

On the bright side, at least our city isn’t burning down right now

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