Either way a food hall on Wash Ave sounds great. we have a subway, McDonalds, kfc, Starbucks, Papa JohnsPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Is there any reason for the lack of fast food chains in downtown? I wish there was a Panda Express & Bojangles & Zaxbys but that’s asking for too much
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Snarf's, Jimmy Johns, Pickles Deli, Kimchi Guys, Gyro ExpressdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024we have a subway, McDonalds, kfc, Starbucks, Papa JohnsPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Is there any reason for the lack of fast food chains in downtown? I wish there was a Panda Express & Bojangles & Zaxbys but that’s asking for too much
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Yea, add Chipotle as a thing it is crazy we don’t have downtown. No chinese cuisine is another huge missing hole, especially since we have rather unique chinese cuisine. Oh yea and that restaurant formerly named for the the city that is a textbook cafe for a downtown area!!!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024we have a subway, McDonalds, kfc, Starbucks, Papa JohnsPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Is there any reason for the lack of fast food chains in downtown? I wish there was a Panda Express & Bojangles & Zaxbys but that’s asking for too much
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Red Door Chinese is in the heart of downtown and there is a selection of Asian cuisine such as Sushi AI, Mizu, Sen Thai, and Auberginedelmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024...No chinese cuisine is another huge missing hole...dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024we have a subway, McDonalds, kfc, Starbucks, Papa JohnsPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Is there any reason for the lack of fast food chains in downtown? I wish there was a Panda Express & Bojangles & Zaxbys but that’s asking for too much
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Ah yes, to be honest thought it closed because everything else in the parking garage block at 7th and Pine is gone and looks pretty bad. I will do Red Door this weekend
Law firm offices are ghost towns anyway now, even the fancy new ones in Clayton.delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Word of another law firm exodus to Clayton on the horizon. Not a huge one but all these little dents make a pretty dinged up car. Our industries have spread out so much from downtown, it’s hard to keep the employers all together. Wish we had a downtown that employers feel like it is a big deal to leave but the attitude I often hear is hands up, well everyone else has left.
Denis, come on, that MCDs may technically be in "downtown" but no one walks from like 7th and Market to that MCDs on N. Tucker. LOL. strike it from your list!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024we have a subway, McDonalds, kfc, Starbucks, Papa JohnsPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Is there any reason for the lack of fast food chains in downtown? I wish there was a Panda Express & Bojangles & Zaxbys but that’s asking for too much [emoji unicode-emoji="1f60a"]1f60a[/emoji] Either way a food hall on Wash Ave sounds great.
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It's not even technically in downtown (west) as it's north of Carr Stsoulardx wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Denis, come on, that MCDs may technically be in "downtown" but no one walks from like 7th and Market to that MCDs on N. Tucker. LOL. strike it from your list!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024we have a subway, McDonalds, kfc, Starbucks, Papa JohnsPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024Is there any reason for the lack of fast food chains in downtown? I wish there was a Panda Express & Bojangles & Zaxbys but that’s asking for too much
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Also the Pizza Hut/KFC combo (recognizing KFC is back elsewhere), two McDonalds (one in StL Center and the other dumpster fire on 7th), and if you want to go far back, both McDonalds AND Burger King riverboats. And I guess if we count StL Center, the food court there also had a Chinese place, a Japanese place (but not sushi), Sbarro, and a couple others.STLCityMike wrote: ↑Dec 13, 2024There was a Lion's Choice downtown for a while, it closed. Along with Panera. I don't see them coming back. We lost the Hardee's as well. Perhaps after we can restore life to 901 Chestnut and other prominent buildings some of these pipe dreams will come to fruition.
Hungry Buddha was on Washington then and I'll never forgetsymphonicpoet wrote: ↑Dec 14, 2024^And there was the food court at Union Station with a bunch of similar stuff. Yeah, yeah. We've lost a lot. But a lot has opened too, since little to none of the stuff on Washington was there then. Restaurants come and go, sadly. (Very sadly when your favorites are going.)
Speaking of, the Black Rep would be a great tenant for the Orpheum Theatre. I wonder if Pulitzer Arts Foundation or something similar would purchase and make a local group like Black Rep the show there. Would be an awesome use in a beautiful vacant building that isn’t being talked about in the current discourse that includes ATT, Millenium, Railway, etc.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Dec 15, 2024^Oh, I don't mean to say there was nothing. Just fewer restaurants, I think. The Black Rep had a scene shop on Washington in the 90s. Or maybe it was on Olive. I'm not quite 100% sure anymore. In that general area. There was the Velvet whatsit. Several goth dance club/bar sorts of operations. Amatin's Books was there then. (I'll probably always mourn bookstores more than restaurants. Personal priorities.)
Didn’t realize it was that large. I would just love the Black Rep to have a beautiful space, preferably downtown.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Dec 15, 2024^I'd be a bit worried the Orpheum would be too big. It's not necessarily the ideal space for any modern play company. It'd be a great space for them to put on a show every now and then as a tenant, but it's a pretty big hall (the original capacity was about two thousand) that's likely got a rather modest stage. Long sight lines. Probably less than ideal accoustics for spoken word. It'd be great for broadway, or even certain rock concerts. (Which is what it was last doing: concerts.) I'd guess the Black Rep probably wants a hall about half that size and with much tighter sightlines.
That said, it would be an improvement on the Edison Theatre, but I think your average parking garage would be an improvement on the Edison Theatre. I do seriously want to see something in there. And if the Black Rep can fill it and make it work . . . hey . . . I'd love to be proved wrong. That's a gorgeous venue.
It's a bit of a beast. It's not as big as Powell or Kiel, of course, but it's a good sized old hall. It was originally built as a playhouse, if I recall correctly, albeit at a time when plays were more often melodramas than the strangely music-less things we think of today. (Many or maybe most plays had at least incidental music up until the advent of the motion picture. Which is doubtless why motion pictures have music.) Anyway, yeah, I'd love to see the Black Rep in a more flexible and attractive hall. And I really, really want to see that hall back in use. Might be the oldest surviving theatre in town. (Certainly one of.) And it's about the last fragment of our first theatre district. Wish I had some grand idea for how to make it happen.delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑Dec 15, 2024Didn’t realize it was that large. I would just love the Black Rep to have a beautiful space, preferably downtown.
Concerts obviously would be great there. I always love concerts at old grand movie theatres.
Just a place I’d really love to see activated. Downtown needs every entertainment space we can create and Orpheum is already right there for us. Renovation, a nice neon sign and some shows at that theatre would make me very happy.
