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PostDec 02, 2024#6126

Slay was fully complicit in the demolition of the Century Building for another f*cking parking garage—probably the single greatest architectural travesty to befall downtown (if not the entire city) so far this century.
No one mentioned Finney’s contract with the LCRA, or the city’s earlier position in favor of preservation. Now that the state was calling the shots and mayor Francis Slay needed the publicity of a downtown redevelopment project, the profit was quickly arranged.
http://preservationresearch.com/downtown/the-biggest-windfall-in-st-louis-history/

http://www.builtstlouis.net/century-building-demolition.html


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PostDec 02, 2024#6127

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^While some of that may be true, I dabbled in the rehab/real estate biz back in the early 2000s. That was not hot air. South St. Louis saw more rehabs, including 'less desirable' areas, than I had ever seen in my life. Now, saying that, the shady nature of loans at that time may have fueled that, but all of the agents and rehabbers were excited and jumping on ANY property they could. Maybe it was also fueled by hype, but I witnessed the massive amount of rehab going on at that time. Some of the companies that left downtown (ex. May Co. got bought out). 

Again, my comment was more of a question with commentary on "the feel" at that time.
We have been in business for a little over a decade.  Predominantly in South City.  The amount of rehab that we have seen in the last five years is incredible. Fox Park, Benton Park West, McKinley Heights, Shaw, Tower Grove South, and even pockets of Dutchtown and Gravios Park.  

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PostDec 02, 2024#6128

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Dec 02, 2024
^While some of that may be true, I dabbled in the rehab/real estate biz back in the early 2000s. That was not hot air. South St. Louis saw more rehabs, including 'less desirable' areas, than I had ever seen in my life. Now, saying that, the shady nature of loans at that time may have fueled that, but all of the agents and rehabbers were excited and jumping on ANY property they could. Maybe it was also fueled by hype, but I witnessed the massive amount of rehab going on at that time. Some of the companies that left downtown (ex. May Co. got bought out). 

Again, my comment was more of a question with commentary on "the feel" at that time.
We have been in business for a little over a decade.  Predominantly in South City.  The amount of rehab that we have seen in the last five years is incredible. Fox Park, Benton Park West, McKinley Heights, Shaw, Tower Grove South, and even pockets of Dutchtown and Gravios Park.  
That is great to hear. That kind of neighborhood-centric, more organic rehab is what will initiate change, versus the 'silver bullet' projects. 

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Slay was fully complicit in the demolition of the Century Building for another f*cking parking garage—probably the single greatest architectural travesty to befall downtown (if not the entire city) so far this century.
No one mentioned Finney’s contract with the LCRA, or the city’s earlier position in favor of preservation. Now that the state was calling the shots and mayor Francis Slay needed the publicity of a downtown redevelopment project, the profit was quickly arranged.
http://preservationresearch.com/downtown/the-biggest-windfall-in-st-louis-history/

http://www.builtstlouis.net/century-building-demolition.html

I remember that. Huge blunder allowing that to happen. 

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PostDec 02, 2024#6130

^ he missed demolition of the Ambassador by 5 years, otherwise he could've taken credit for that one too. (i've no doubt the outcome would have been the same under Slay's spineless watch.)

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PostDec 02, 2024#6131

urban_dilettante wrote:^ he missed demolition of the Ambassador by 5 years, otherwise he could've taken credit for that one too. (i've no doubt the outcome would have been the same under Slay's spineless watch.)
The century building was a total loss which should have been saved along with many others we’ve lost Not saying Slay was great or good but things seemed have moved a bit more than what they are now. The dysfunction within city hall seems even more apparent.


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PostDec 02, 2024#6132

^ i just don't see that the dysfunction is any more apparent than it was under Slay or Krewson. Razing sound, historic downtown buildings for more parking garages is pretty glaringly dysfunctional, IMO.

i'm a Spencer supporter, but i don't think Jones has done a bad job.

a lot of the dysfunction at city hall stems from staffing shortages and archaic practices, and that's not going to be changed by a single mayor in a single term. it's going to have to be a sustained effort.

i admit that i don't know much about what Jones is doing to modernize city services, but i also don't know that she's not working on it.

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PostDec 03, 2024#6133

Well, I was told to expect communication from my employer on the return to office.  While we have a tower downtown, I am being assigned Earth City as my hub location.  I live in Lafayette Square.  The powers that be are under the impression people do not want to be downtown / do not want to pay to park.   27 min drive with no traffic, and an office park where I am car dependent to get lunch.

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PostDec 03, 2024#6134

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Well, I was told to expect communication from my employer on the return to office.  While we have a tower downtown, I am being assigned Earth City as my hub location.  I live in Lafayette Square.  The powers that be are under the impression people do not want to be downtown / do not want to pay to park.   27 min drive with no traffic, and an office park where I am car dependent to get lunch.
What a bummer!

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PostDec 03, 2024#6135

STLCityMike wrote:
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Well, I was told to expect communication from my employer on the return to office.  While we have a tower downtown, I am being assigned Earth City as my hub location.  I live in Lafayette Square.  The powers that be are under the impression people do not want to be downtown / do not want to pay to park.   27 min drive with no traffic, and an office park where I am car dependent to get lunch.
My brother works at US Bank too, he’s been assigned to the downtown tower (where he’s always been) both it and earth city will be hubs, depending on unit. I know some people from other county locations are getting one or the other

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PostDec 03, 2024#6136

^why are they reassigning them and why not move them all to downtown location for easy logistics?

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PostDec 03, 2024#6137

They own the Earth City building,


Also US Bank CDC (now known as impact finance) will be moving to the Tower from downtown west

PostDec 03, 2024#6138

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 3&empos=p4

Article is mostly about renovations at Hilton at the Ballpark but it has this tad bit



LHM expects a record year in 2025 for the Hilton Ballpark hotel and its St. Louis Union Station, Curio Collection by Hilton hotel in Downtown West, largely due to a rebound in convention bookings at the America’s Center convention complex. The convention center’s operator, tourism agency Explore St. Louis, told its board recently that hotel room nights associated with America's Center bookings are on pace to close at a target of 250,000 in 2025.

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PostDec 03, 2024#6139

There was an article about peabody building on post dispatch today. Can someone please share it?

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ST. LOUIS — Earlier this year, prominent architecture firm HOK eyed an exit from downtown after 70 years of operations here.

Then it toured Peabody Plaza, a 15-story glass tower at North Seventh and Market streets with a view of the Gateway Arch and Kiener Plaza.

“You have the Wainwright Building. You have the Arch. You have the ballpark. You have Citygarden,” said Margaret McDonald, HOK senior principal. “You feel so connected to the city.”

HOK will be one of roughly a dozen new tenants at the 38-year-old office building when the company moves in next September. Peabody Plaza, at 701 Market Street, is now nearly fully occupied, with more than 30 tenants. The building secured 15 leases and lease renewals over the past 18 months, its brokers said.

Peabody Plaza bucks trends of downtown vacancy
Snow falls over Kiener Plaza Park, the Old Courthouse, and the Gateway Arch as seen from office where HOK is soon to be located, on Monday, Dec. 2, 2024, at Peabody Plaza in St. Louis. The global architecture firm is set to move into the building in late 2025.
Zachary Linhares, Post-Dispatch
Meanwhile, the central business district continues to shrink: Downtown’s occupancy has fallen year-over-year from 78.1% last year to 77.4%, despite modest gains seen across the region, according to the latest data from Cushman & Wakefield.

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Not a decade ago, the only attention Peabody Plaza drew was calls for its demolition.

Then came a new owner, at the right time, with money to spend on upgrades.

Tenants like the Sandberg Phoenix law firm, Arcturis architecture firm, Ukraft Cafe and Gateway Arch Park Foundation have all moved to the building since New York-based owner Briar Meads Capital bought the property almost five years ago. They join the building’s namesake and longstanding tenant, Peabody Energy, which has planted its flag there since 1992.

“People are looking for parking, security and amenities like a fitness center, restaurants and banking,” said Rick Messey, one of the CBRE commercial real estate brokers that leases the building. “We have all of those.”

Its desirability marks an ironic turn for Peabody Plaza.

In the early 1900s, civic leaders sought to create a 2-mile grassy mall between Tucker Boulevard and Grand Avenue.

Over the decades, one idea bubbled up, to create a mall with an unobstructed view of the Gateway Arch. The concept morphed over time, and 2 miles became several blocks surrounding Kiener Plaza.

In the 1980s, a redevelopment corporation razed three historic buildings to clear the area for the new Gateway Mall. At the same time, business and union leaders pitched a series of new office towers to be built there.

In 1986, developers erected one, what would become the Peabody tower, at a cost of $70 million. Deep in debt, the developer later scrapped its plans for the other towers.

Ever since, preservationists and community members have called for the tower’s demolition, labeling it “urban barbarism,” a “monstrosity” and “the greatest insult to our built environment.”

Peabody Plaza bucks trends of downtown vacancy
Peabody Plaza as seen from Citygarden Sculpture Park on Monday, Dec. 2, 2024, in St. Louis.
Zachary Linhares, Post-Dispatch
In 2016, the tower was put into receivership after owner Triple Net Properties of California defaulted on a $44 million loan.

Four years later, days before a national emergency was declared and states shut down due to the coronavirus, Briar Meads Capital closed on its purchase of the building. It paid $36 million for it.

At that time, people were saying work from home was here to stay, that no one was coming back to offices, said Seth Berkowitz, managing director at Briar Meads Capital.

“There were hyperbolic headlines,” he said.

But Briar Meads, which specializes in real estate that needs investment, didn’t believe it.

And Peabody Plaza, Berkowitz said, had good bones: Decent occupancy. Unparalleled views. A 7,000-square-foot fitness center. Proximity to downtown’s courthouses.

The building needed better food options, maintenance upgrades and an engaged property manager, he said.

And Berkowitz, who lives in New York, is a St. Louis native, and knew the local real estate market. He and his partner, Sid Singh, regularly come to St. Louis to meet with tenants and prospective tenants.

There was a bump in 2022, when several downtown companies, including Peabody, threatened to leave after nighttime gunfire hit buildings, broke windows and injured and killed people.

Berkowitz said his company focused on what it could control, like upping building security and being on-call to tenants.

John Warren, senior director at Cushman & Wakefield, said Peabody Plaza’s success comes down to an owner who has been aggressive in attracting business through favorable rental rates, cash for tenants to improve their spaces and other rental concessions.

Peabody Plaza bucks trends of downtown vacancy
A man walks through the Market Street entrance of Peabody Plaza on Monday, Dec. 2, 2024, in St. Louis. Tenants at Peabody Plaza include Peabody, the Gateway Arch Park Foundation, and soon HOK.
Zachary Linhares, Post-Dispatch
Nearby, Bank of America Plaza on Market Street and the Equitable Building on Broadway are both in receivership after their respective cash-strapped owners couldn’t keep tenants.

Briar Meads has so far invested around $10 million in Peabody Plaza, including new elevators, Berkowitz said.

“When you buy an office building, you can’t buy it and then just expect the building to fund itself because then you can end up in a trap,” he said.

CBRE First Vice President Whitney Allen, who also handles leasing for Peabody Plaza, said the building’s 400,000 square feet isn’t so big Briar Meads had to find huge companies to fill the space.

“You’ve got an almost boutique, full-service building right in the heart of downtown St. Louis that we were able to get more traction to build where we didn’t have to land a 100,000-square-foot tenant,” she said.

Gateway Arch Park Foundation moved to Peabody Plaza in 2023 after its lease expired at One Memorial Drive, just steps from the Arch.

Peabody Plaza had the room to grow that his organization wanted, said Executive Director Ryan McClure. The ownership also was proactive in addressing issues at the building as well as helping to grow the foundation’s events, like Winterfest.

“The biggest thing is a building that is investing in itself,” McClure said.

Peabody Plaza bucks trends of downtown vacancy

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PostDec 03, 2024#6141

@dbInSouthCity much appreciated for sharing the article - insightful!

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PostDec 03, 2024#6142

Should we assume the teased Union Station related announcement is dead?

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PostDec 03, 2024#6143

Nope, still on. Just a 3rd party hang up

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PostDec 04, 2024#6144

Even though they ended up staying it still pisses me off that HOK was planning to leave Downtown. 

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PostDec 04, 2024#6145

It took way too long for St. Louis media to pick up on Peabody Plaza's success in recent years. Back in August, Cushman and Wakefield had a press release talking about how the building's occupancy increased from 70% to 85% in a couple years and that they had secured new leases for 15 tenants. I guess they waited for HOK to pick up the story, but CW didn't feel the need. Now this new lease pushes it over 90%. The success goes way past HOK and sets an example for what other downtown buildings should try to do once they refinance their loans.

PostDec 04, 2024#6146

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Even though they ended up staying it still pisses me off that HOK was planning to leave Downtown. 
I don't remember seeing anywhere that they were "planning to leave downtown". I'm sure they looked elsewhere, but it doesn't seem they ever seriously considered leaving. They decided last May and publicly announced it soon after specifically to give a positive story for downtown in what was a wake of negative stories at the time. 

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Even though they ended up staying it still pisses me off that HOK was planning to leave Downtown. 
Don’t think they ever were. They are chasing the airport design contract and leaving the city wasn’t going to play well with that

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PostDec 04, 2024#6148

Hmm ok, was just interpreting the opening line of the article "Earlier this year, prominent architecture firm HOK eyed an exit from downtown after 70 years of operations here"

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PostDec 04, 2024#6149

PeterXCV wrote:
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Hmm ok, was just interpreting the opening line of the article "Earlier this year, prominent architecture firm HOK eyed an exit from downtown after 70 years of operations here"
I think in reality they had just looked outside downtown. I think it would be tremendously rare for a company to "plan" on leaving downtown and then end up staying.

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PostDec 05, 2024#6150

Looks like the bill to provide substantial tax credits ... 25% of costs... for the conversion of office to residential will be back for the upcoming session in Jeff City.  Buildings must by 25 years or older and there's a $100M cap, with half of that for 750,000 sq.ft. or larger buildings like One AT&T and Railway Exchange. Not quite sure of prospects, but if passed it could definitely help, especially if coupled with Historic Tax Credits. 

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