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PostOct 24, 2024#601

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Missouri needs to find ways to drive population growth which has an enormous economic snowball effect.  This is a good way to do it.  There will be some short term pain for long term gain.
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.

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PostOct 24, 2024#602

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kbshapiro wrote:
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Missouri needs to find ways to drive population growth which has an enormous economic snowball effect.  This is a good way to do it.  There will be some short term pain for long term gain.
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
I know women I work with are talking about house-shopping in Illinois.

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PostOct 24, 2024#603

MarkHaversham wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
addxb2 wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
kbshapiro wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
Missouri needs to find ways to drive population growth which has an enormous economic snowball effect.  This is a good way to do it.  There will be some short term pain for long term gain.
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
I know women I work with are talking about house-shopping in Illinois.
Are they also going to move to Canada if Trump wins? 

PostOct 24, 2024#604

addxb2 wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
kbshapiro wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
Missouri needs to find ways to drive population growth which has an enormous economic snowball effect.  This is a good way to do it.  There will be some short term pain for long term gain.
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
Maybe we moderate the alt-left and find some common ground. Practice what you preach. 

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PostOct 24, 2024#605

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addxb2 wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
kbshapiro wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
Missouri needs to find ways to drive population growth which has an enormous economic snowball effect.  This is a good way to do it.  There will be some short term pain for long term gain.
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
Maybe we moderate the alt-left and find some common ground. Practice what you preach. 
Alt-left doesn’t control a major party and hasn’t influenced state politics. Sorry if you haven’t woken up yet, but Trump Party is a Facist Party. I for one am not going to look back and think “I should’ve done more. It really was BOTH sides.”

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PostOct 24, 2024#606

flipz wrote:
addxb2 wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
kbshapiro wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
Missouri needs to find ways to drive population growth which has an enormous economic snowball effect.  This is a good way to do it.  There will be some short term pain for long term gain.
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
Maybe we moderate the alt-left and find some common ground. Practice what you preach. 
Alt Left in Missouri? Where do you find that?


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PostOct 25, 2024#607

Not only is there no "Alt-Left" (whatever that means) in Missouri, quite frankly, there's really no leftist parties at all in America. We're an extremely right-wing country: Democrats would be considered center-right in most western countries.

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PostOct 25, 2024#608

Fun thread.

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PostOct 25, 2024#609

flipz wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
MarkHaversham wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
addxb2 wrote:
Oct 24, 2024
Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
I know women I work with are talking about house-shopping in Illinois.
Are they also going to move to Canada if Trump wins? 
Maybe if abortion is outlawed federally? I didn't ask.

PostOct 25, 2024#610

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Alt Left in Missouri? Where do you find that?
All the communes and cooperatives that dominate Missouri, one would assume.

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PostOct 25, 2024#611

addxb2 wrote:
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flipz wrote:
addxb2 wrote:
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Moderating MO's alt-right movement and investing more directly into STL and KC would do far more for the state economy. Can anyone who makes pro-tax cut explain what Kansas did wrong that Missouri wouldn't? The whole idea sounds like a couple of free market libertarians who bought a dinner with the governor to discuss their plan to dismantle the department of education.
Maybe we moderate the alt-left and find some common ground. Practice what you preach. 
Alt-left doesn’t control a major party and hasn’t influenced state politics. Sorry if you haven’t woken up yet, but Trump Party is a Facist Party. I for one am not going to look back and think “I should’ve done more. It really was BOTH sides.”
They're the ones that go full psycho and burn down the city every few years. 

You don't know what fascism is but yes stay on that party line. It's always THEIR fault, THEY'RE keeping us from prospering, THEY'RE deplorable, THEY'RE WIERD. Party of tolerance is a step away from saying that it would be best to not have any other political parties.

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PostOct 25, 2024#612

Civil unrest has been a thing since America's inception. It's kind of our thing.

As a former Republican, I don't think you know what fascism is if you don't think what Trump has done to the GOP over the last 8 years is fascist in nature.

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PostOct 25, 2024#613

I remember when teenage pregnancy was the worst for society. We've made tons of progress lowering teen pregnancy rates. 

Maybe calling these lawsuits and this line of argument deplorable or weird is too mean. What should we call it?

Missouri Independent - Missouri AG in abortion pill lawsuit argues fewer teen pregnancies hurt state financially


https://missouriindependent.com/2024/10 ... pregnancy/

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PostOct 25, 2024#614

flipz wrote:You don't know what fascism is but yes stay on that party line. It's always THEIR fault, THEY'RE keeping us from prospering, THEY'RE deplorable, THEY'RE WIERD. Party of tolerance is a step away from saying that it would be best to not have any other political parties.
Again, sorry you’re still asleep, but the current Republican Party is deplorable, weird, and it is absolutely their fault our country is being pulled to political extremes.

Stop with the “party of tolerance” bullsh*t. Being tolerant of others doesn’t mean I won’t call a wannabe facist a facist. If you can’t declare that Donald Trump wants to be a dictator, then you’re actively avoiding the truth.

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PostOct 25, 2024#615

You all are certainly proving there aren't any "alt-left people in Missouri"

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PostOct 25, 2024#616

lol. recognizing that MO is controlled by the far right = alt left.

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PostOct 25, 2024#617

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, John Danforth, John Boehner, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush,  Jim Edgar, Mike Pence and hundreds of other leading Republicans (in name only I’m sure lol) have refused to endorse Trump or even endorsed Harris.

You have to be living in an alternate reality to believe political division is being driven by an “alt-left” lol

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PostOct 25, 2024#618

Yeah, also a former Republican, who took a painstakingly long time to get his parents out of the Fox news alternate reality sphere - it is an alternate reality they are selling.

The KGB proved in the 60s that a constant bombardment of fear messaging / mongering would take hold in about 20 days.  Would be ingrained in 60.  Afterwards the recipients of this type of messaging would refute any evidence to the contrary, no matter how ironclad.  This is Fox News' business model, and Donald Trump's cudgel.  There is a reason why his themes - in interview, rally or campaign - are all negative and he insisted on running on the immigration / border.  He needed to create the boogeyman so he can bombard people with fantastic (made up or anecdotal) and scary scenarios for talking points rather than facts.  Oh, and he is the reason the border is still open, because conservative Jim Lankford guided the strongest border bill ever through the Senate, only to have Trump tell Speaker Johnson to squash it in the house.  Because he wanted to run on it.  Because he is a megalomaniac that can't win on merit.

While Snopes says that the aforementioned KGB claim can't be confirmed, the American Psychological Assoc. says it is an effective method of behavior change: 
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases ... ed-appeals

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PostOct 25, 2024#619

I wish we could like some of these posts!  Very good stuff here.

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PostOct 27, 2024#620

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
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While Snopes says that the aforementioned KGB claim can't be confirmed, the American Psychological Assoc. says it is an effective method of behavior change: 
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases ... ed-appeals
I don't think "propaganda works" is a very controversial opinion. :-)

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PostOct 28, 2024#621

Ha, yeah, generally not. But I think some people need to chew on what Fox’s method of presentation actual is.

PostOct 29, 2024#622

Ashcroft up to his usual Tomfoolery

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/misso ... ive-order/

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PostOct 29, 2024#623

^ Ashcroft is an idiot. How many tax payer dollars have been wasted on all the cases he's lost? 

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PostOct 29, 2024#625

Yeah but the Democrats haven’t solved racism yet so they’re even.

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