cool cooldbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 04, 2024SLMPD is arresting more people for gun crimes
and feds are bringing 2 more prosecuters to take on those that would qualify as federal gun crimes
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^ Not so far from last year but, unlike most cities, we already had plummeted from the 2020 peak in 2021. Last year was the lowest since 2014 iirc.
Homicides seem to be near the rate they were previously, feels like 1 per day. Here’s hoping May slows down or chance of year over year drop is minimal.
Ended last April at 46
Ending this April around 53 (+15%)
Ended last May at 69
Ended last April at 46
Ending this April around 53 (+15%)
Ended last May at 69
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Downtown is doing okay which is good news.
Dutchtown and parts of North City just can’t seem to stop bleeding.
We have to get MLK Blvd. under control. One road is carrying about a quarter of homicides.
I really want us to see another decrease so maybe we can get away from the top of some of these lists before it kills all the momentum that is in the horizon from 2027-2030.
Dutchtown and parts of North City just can’t seem to stop bleeding.
We have to get MLK Blvd. under control. One road is carrying about a quarter of homicides.
I really want us to see another decrease so maybe we can get away from the top of some of these lists before it kills all the momentum that is in the horizon from 2027-2030.
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I think our trends as the weather improves will be really telling, particularly downtown. It’s had a reasonably good year so far, though there have been a few shootings in the last week or so.
I think as far as overall safety priorities in the city, it boils down to guns and cars.
Some of the police work recently to remove guns off the streets has really paid dividends, but that’s a never ending battle due the state of gun control more broadly. We need homicide rates to stay stable in some of our better neighborhoods and start to improve in Dutchtown and the North Side.
Aside from that, the safety of our roads continues to be an ever more urgent issue. We have to make progress there by the end of this year.
I think as far as overall safety priorities in the city, it boils down to guns and cars.
Some of the police work recently to remove guns off the streets has really paid dividends, but that’s a never ending battle due the state of gun control more broadly. We need homicide rates to stay stable in some of our better neighborhoods and start to improve in Dutchtown and the North Side.
Aside from that, the safety of our roads continues to be an ever more urgent issue. We have to make progress there by the end of this year.
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I keep thinking that North City has bottomed to the point that it’s too spread out and without a strong enough market to even have turf wars (I know a lot of the violence now is eye for an eye cycle and not necessarily turf). I don’t even understand why Dutchtown is so bad. It seems like the communities are positively active there but I guess some bad actor groups sticking around the area?Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Apr 30, 2024I think our trends as the weather improves will be really telling, particularly downtown. It’s had a reasonably good year so far, though there have been a few shootings in the last week or so.
I think as far as overall safety priorities in the city, it boils down to guns and cars.
Some of the police work recently to remove guns off the streets has really paid dividends, but that’s a never ending battle due the state of gun control more broadly. We need homicide rates to stay stable in some of our better neighborhoods and start to improve in Dutchtown and the North Side.
Aside from that, the safety of our roads continues to be an ever more urgent issue. We have to make progress there by the end of this year.
Cars are such a fixable issue that constantly gets overlooked. 1) The speeding and reckless driving is bad in our downtown because we do not have enough car traffic for the street design. We either need a lot more car traffic downtown or change the design - we can control the latter much more. Some improvements appear to be happening at least in downtown after the Cardinals fan got ran over as well as that happening around a lot of stadiums across the country. 2) Most of these homicides and the shootings are done from the car or with a getaway. MLK blvd is an example of a street that maybe could have some commercial activity and less drive by shootings with different design. Look at the homicide maps and where they happen - along Page/MLK, Tucker, Gravois, Kingshighway. It’s not a coincidence. It sounds silly but these are the short term things we can control.
When people want more lanes and less traffic when we do not even have traffic issues, I hope they realize cars cause a lot of the unpleasantness in public spaces (and feelings of unsafe) and that one of the correlations with rises in homicides in this country was the ability to flee the scene quickly in cars.
Citywide through April 2019
Robbery: 410
Burglary: 813
Violent crimes: 1,622
Robbery: 410
Burglary: 813
Violent crimes: 1,622
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Overall still looking up. The shoplifting numbers do not bode well for attracting more retail to the city and downtown which continues to be our biggest hole. I know that’s been a COVID issue across all cities and suburbs that seems to keep rising. With the lack of retail downtown though, what stores are even experiencing this level of shoplifting??? Schnucks getting hit that hard?
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There are alot of smaller convenience stores in downtown, more clothing retail stores then you’d expect. So one shoplifting crime a week isn’t really bad
Shoplifting isn't up, it's just being reported more often. See what I did there?
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Yea, you’re right it’s not that high. Now that I think about it, seems lower than you’d expect (when I worked retail in a small town, theft happened several times a week). These numbers look really good for the most part. I just want companies to have no excuses in not putting groceries and pharmacies within our urban fabric and have a hard time with why more do not try it. Between Tucker and Grand, there are no full service grocery stores or pharmacies. There are really good dense neighborhoods without groceries (Debaliviere, Dogtown, Benton Park, full on food deserts north of Page). Target will be huge although not super walkable from the neighborhoods. Field Foods was doing this but obviously under some horrible business leadership. I think a lot of people say this but retail is one of the weak spots for the city because U City, Brentwood, and Maplewood can offer big box stores the infrastructure they operate on now (large parking lots) and more competitive tax incentives. It’s crazy that my out of state hometown that has about the same population as downtown, downtown west and midtown (without a university, over a much larger area and surrounded by rural areas) had 2 Krogers, WalMart, Target, Aldi, CVS, 2 Walgreens. Trader Joes not having a location in the city is baffling but I guarantee it’s because of parking. It should come with the growing residents downtown, downtown west, and midtown but companies are slow to adjust their infrastructure for it.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 06, 2024There are alot of smaller convenience stores in downtown, more clothing retail stores then you’d expect. So one shoplifting crime a week isn’t really bad
Why do city detectives dress like they’re in a true crime series? It’s hard to take them seriously. Looks like they cosplay as macho, no bull.
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^Because they love a smoke, a drink, and a dame with an nice pair of gams? What are you, some kinda wise guy?!?
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Hey, dress the part, be the part. Got to give credit to full coat & tie with pressed shirts and some sweet ass hats, especially that porkpie. Maybe not quite as smooth as the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, but they're on the right path. As far as I'm concerned, if they can actually bring down the homicide rates, our boys can wear whatever they want, and glad to see they look professional AF.
17-year-old shot, injured near Forest Park Saturday night
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/17-year-old-shot-saturday-st-louis/63-276c3cf4-a8e0-4ff0-9589-8a0d5df2ab3c
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/17-year-old-shot-saturday-st-louis/63-276c3cf4-a8e0-4ff0-9589-8a0d5df2ab3c
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Ugh that bus stop is really a problem.hebeters wrote:17-year-old shot, injured near Forest Park Saturday night
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/17-year-old-shot-saturday-st-louis/63-276c3cf4-a8e0-4ff0-9589-8a0d5df2ab3c
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what can be done about the bus stop?Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑May 19, 2024Ugh that bus stop is really a problem.hebeters wrote:17-year-old shot, injured near Forest Park Saturday night
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/17-year-old-shot-saturday-st-louis/63-276c3cf4-a8e0-4ff0-9589-8a0d5df2ab3c
California is about to tax guns more like alcohol and tobacco − and that could put a dent in gun violence
https://theconversation.com/california-is-about-to-tax-guns-more-like-alcohol-and-tobacco-and-that-could-put-a-dent-in-gun-violence-229431
https://theconversation.com/california-is-about-to-tax-guns-more-like-alcohol-and-tobacco-and-that-could-put-a-dent-in-gun-violence-229431
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Triple shooting near the convention center...
... in St. Charles.
https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/05/23/ ... on-center/
... in St. Charles.
https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/05/23/ ... on-center/
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https://www.ewgateway.org/save-lives-now/
Man, this would be amazing if we could have a 3-year continued 20% decline.
Regional Save Lives Now plan aims to curb violent crimes within 3 years
Kansas City and Baltimore, two cities 5 On Your Side traveled to last year, are now serving as a catalyst for change here in St. Louis.
ST. LOUIS — A new group of leaders and people from various communities will join forces Thursday afternoon to put a drastic dent in homicides from St. Louis city to the county and even in St. Clair County. They're looking at trends from other cities to see what can work here.
Last year, 5 On Your Side traveled across the country, searching for solutions in Indianapolis, Kansas City, New Orleans and Baltimore. The new group that will meet Thursday plans to explore tactics they've seen in two of those cities to turn things around in the St. Louis region.
When crime strikes, it's never welcomed.
"We want to see crime diminish,” said Cynthia Danley of Safe Connections.
Her group works to prevent domestic violence and to steer young people away from it.
She's reacting to a regional initiative called Save Lives Now. Under the leadership of St. Louis Mayor Tishaura Jones and St. Louis County Executive Sam Page, a group of community leaders and neighbors want to reduce shootings and homicides by 20% in three years.
"I think it's going to take all of us working together to accomplish that goal,” Danley said, while calling the goal realistic.
Kansas City and Baltimore, two cities 5 On Your Side traveled to last year, are now serving as a catalyst for change here. Local leaders are looking at those cities, as well as Chicago and Philadelphia, to see what worked to deter criminals using what's called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and street outreach tactics.
“Every part of our region is challenged with crime. One thing that everyone can agree on is that they do not want crime in their community.
Those who commit crimes are not thinking about that invisible boundary they may be crossing. While the boundaries officially define our communities, they cannot define our response to crime,” Page said in a statement.
"Most violent crime is committed by a small percentage of the population," said Mayor Tishaura Jones in a statement. "The Save Lives Now! initiative recognizes this reality and engages these individuals with the goal of diverting them through focused deterrence, teaching them there’s a different way through cognitive behavioral therapy and using credible messengers who can earn their trust."
Danley wants to make sure the group's ideas lead to action.
"It's going to be incumbent upon those who are brought to the table to have a plan for implementation and actually follow through with it…See what works (and) what doesn’t, but we can't give up because this is our community,” she said.
The group will consist of police officers, lawmakers, and everyday people. To learn more about the initiative, go here.
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/hills ... ouis-city/
They finally caught the great South City garage thief. Maybe we should blockade 55 so these criminals from Jefferson County can't prey on us simple cityfolk.
They finally caught the great South City garage thief. Maybe we should blockade 55 so these criminals from Jefferson County can't prey on us simple cityfolk.
Dang
The St. Louis Circuit Attorney’s Office charged Luttman with four counts of first-degree burglary, 92 counts of second-degree burglary, three counts of first-degree property damage, 82 counts of second-degree property damage, one count of stealing – $25,000 or more, 35 counts of stealing – $750 or more, 14 counts of stealing a firearm or explosive, 11 counts of stealing, three counts of stealing a motor vehicle, five counts of first-degree tampering with a motor vehicle, one count of fourth-degree assault, and one count of resisting arrest.