It's the guy that bought the church at Kingshighway and Gibson and is turning it into a single family house. He doesn't live in the neighborhood currently but he did attend the first engagement meeting to say that apartment buildings lower property values and this should be stopped at all costs. He is also worried about parking.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 12, 2024A meeting Saturday at 1 pm, not organized by FPSE NA, the Ald, or the developer.
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^I think the only agenda item that actually matters to this guy is "Sitelines."
He thought his project would look out at Forest Park and the CWE skyline. The other topics are simply to get the neighborhood nimbys worked into a frenzy
"If you like your view, buy it."
He thought his project would look out at Forest Park and the CWE skyline. The other topics are simply to get the neighborhood nimbys worked into a frenzy
"If you like your view, buy it."
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Just saw the part where he isn't able to provide seating for the meeting. Please bring a lawn chair LMAO
Sounds like not enough @ss parking.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Feb 12, 2024Just saw the part where he isn't able to provide seating for the meeting. Please bring a lawn chair LMAO
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This is funny, because it actually reinforces the walkability of the neighborhood.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Feb 12, 2024Just saw the part where he isn't able to provide seating for the meeting. Please bring a lawn chair LMAO
Seems like a mistake to demo these before the new proposal is approved. It helps the NIMBYs' case to have a vacant lot v new building rather than derelict buildings v new building situation.
^Agreed, also having the city pay for demolition now vs. the developer later.
The developer applied for the demo permits. Are they not paying for it?
Oh I don't know, I didn't realize the developers were who applied for the demo permits. Sorry for the confused comment.
Eh, I disagree.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 19, 2024Seems like a mistake to demo these before the new proposal is approved. It helps the NIMBYs' case to have a vacant lot v new building rather than derelict buildings v new building situation.
If anyone would like to see the KMOV piece, follow the link then click on the 6A First Alert video and go to the 7:35 mark.
https://www.firstalert4.com/livestream/
https://www.firstalert4.com/livestream/
Updated story at 6p, emergency demo was approved and has started.
This demotivates supporters whose primary concern was the blight. Puts more focus on traffic, parking, shadows, etc.
I'm glad to finally have this eyesore gone. It's been a horrible welcome to the City for decades now. Time to move on.
The replacement looks like the same as most of the rest of the stuff that is being built
As far as residing, personally, its far to noisy at that intersection/area for me
https://nextstl.com/2024/01/northpoint-presents-proposal-for-kingshighway-in-fpse-starts-engagement-process/
As far as residing, personally, its far to noisy at that intersection/area for me
https://nextstl.com/2024/01/northpoint-presents-proposal-for-kingshighway-in-fpse-starts-engagement-process/
NextSTL - Infamous Kingshighway buildings in FPSE come down
https://nextstl.com/2024/02/infamous-ki ... come-down/
https://nextstl.com/2024/02/infamous-ki ... come-down/
Did anyone go to the meeting tonight? Or the one on Saturday?
Saturday's unofficial meeting was a group of about 15. The host mostly talked falsely about opening Kingshighway to the neighborhood and wanting to expand some streets. He came to last night's meeting with a typed list of concerns, and encouraged people to attend another, separate, unofficial "neighborhood" meeting in which they can discuss feedback... to each other?
Last night's meeting was attended by roughly 40-50 folks. We discussed the history of the western edge, the neighborhood vision and Form Based Code, and housing policy (deck link). Then, turned it over to Derek and Toni, and then NorthPoint. NorthPoint is still working on updating renderings and incorporating feedback from the first meeting, including all the corresponding studies. Their update last night was different colors of the building's design.
Throughout the meeting there were notecards and pens on tables for residents to write down their questions and thoughts on the project. That was how feedback was captured for this meeting. Those notecards were given to NorthPoint to review and consider prior to the next meeting. They'll also provide a Q&A sheet that the Association will share out.
Other than the host of that Saturday meeting speaking out, there was one other person who also does not live in the neighborhood who imposed their beliefs onto the residents. Viewpoints like, not believing people in the neighborhood wanted to walk anywhere, the neighborhood not wanting more apartments...
From feedback we've heard while being around the Kingshighway site, many folks from the neighborhood are excited to see the Kingshighway buildings go and something new in their place, or just no thoughts because they're not as tuned-in.
I anticipate most feedback will be parking and traffic, and thoughts on how sitelines (largely phase 2, which is not a discussion at this time) can be improved to maintain some connection to Forest Park. For traffic and parking, the developers are working with the city to reasonably address those concerns (better circulation and access, designing that section of the neighborhood to be more walkable and connected within the neighborhood and to/from the pedestrian bridge, etc).
Last night's meeting was attended by roughly 40-50 folks. We discussed the history of the western edge, the neighborhood vision and Form Based Code, and housing policy (deck link). Then, turned it over to Derek and Toni, and then NorthPoint. NorthPoint is still working on updating renderings and incorporating feedback from the first meeting, including all the corresponding studies. Their update last night was different colors of the building's design.
Throughout the meeting there were notecards and pens on tables for residents to write down their questions and thoughts on the project. That was how feedback was captured for this meeting. Those notecards were given to NorthPoint to review and consider prior to the next meeting. They'll also provide a Q&A sheet that the Association will share out.
Other than the host of that Saturday meeting speaking out, there was one other person who also does not live in the neighborhood who imposed their beliefs onto the residents. Viewpoints like, not believing people in the neighborhood wanted to walk anywhere, the neighborhood not wanting more apartments...
From feedback we've heard while being around the Kingshighway site, many folks from the neighborhood are excited to see the Kingshighway buildings go and something new in their place, or just no thoughts because they're not as tuned-in.
I anticipate most feedback will be parking and traffic, and thoughts on how sitelines (largely phase 2, which is not a discussion at this time) can be improved to maintain some connection to Forest Park. For traffic and parking, the developers are working with the city to reasonably address those concerns (better circulation and access, designing that section of the neighborhood to be more walkable and connected within the neighborhood and to/from the pedestrian bridge, etc).
Would love accessibility from Kingshighway. In recent times whenever a public street has been reopened, the predicted hellscape does not materialize.,though I realize the idea is a trigger for many .
I don’t have much hope for this one. Will likely be an unartiiculated shoebox with stuck on features pretending to be a charming place to live. This is a prominent site with image-forming potential for the Grove to the thousands that roll by everyday.. Better than a gas station though.
Can we atleast insist on trees along kingshighway?
I don’t have much hope for this one. Will likely be an unartiiculated shoebox with stuck on features pretending to be a charming place to live. This is a prominent site with image-forming potential for the Grove to the thousands that roll by everyday.. Better than a gas station though.
Can we atleast insist on trees along kingshighway?
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Opening to Kingshighway in this case might actually have a beneficial effect. Rush hour sees Machester WB and Taylor SB clogged bumper to bumper. Can take 4-5 light cycles to get through sometimes. This would ease a lot of the pressure, albeit whatever street they open WILL definitely see a lot more traffic
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What I always find funny is that union employees cost too much to picket / be present so the union hires non union people to sit there.
Its interpretational dance at its finest.
Its interpretational dance at its finest.