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PostDec 03, 2022#1

Started this thread because I didn’t know where else to put this stuff and didn’t want to make a thread every time.


I saw construction going on in the old picklemans on N central today. Did some high level searching and I think it might be becoming a Jimmy John’s. Not 100% sure. Curious if anyone knows.

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PostDec 03, 2022#2

Jimmy John’s would be amazing. Hope so.

#6 on French bread is my go to.

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PostDec 04, 2022#3

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Dec 03, 2022
Jimmy John’s would be amazing. Hope so.

#6 on French bread is my go to.
Jimmy John’s has job postings for that address so I think it is legit.

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PostFeb 19, 2023#4

Jimmy John’s has opened.

PostMay 06, 2023#5

Wine merchant is moving to 170/olive near sugarfire.I think they said August. Sad on a personal level. Nice to be able to walk to it.

PostJun 24, 2023#6

Some kind of restaurant with a bar in moving into the old craft beer cellar spot. I couldn’t tell what it was by what was on the window. But they built a deck for the patio.

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PostJun 25, 2023#7

Asian restaurant concept called Jinzen is going into that space.
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Some kind of restaurant with a bar in moving into the old craft beer cellar spot. I couldn’t tell what it was by what was on the window. But they built a deck for the patio.

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PostJun 26, 2023#8

kbshapiro wrote:
Jun 25, 2023
Asian restaurant concept called Jinzen is going into that space.
jshank83 wrote:
Jun 24, 2023
Some kind of restaurant with a bar in moving into the old craft beer cellar spot. I couldn’t tell what it was by what was on the window. But they built a deck for the patio.
Interesting. It’s an easy walk for us so I appreciate something new. Hopefully they have a happy hour.

PostSep 06, 2023#9

Tsk tsk Barcelona.
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PostJan 03, 2024#10

New Rooster location coming to Carondelet Plaza in Clayton, where White Box Eatery was, next door to 801 Fish.
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PostJan 03, 2024#11

Clayton traffic just never came back': Downtown Clayton restaurant permanently shutters

CLAYTON, Mo. — Cantina Laredo, at 7710 Forsyth Blvd. in Clayton, permanently shuttered after its final day of operations Sunday.
The upscale Tex-Mex restaurant never saw traffic recover after the pandemic, Consolidated Restaurant Operations’ Vice President of Marketing Bill Watson said. Dallas-based CRO is a full-service restaurant company that operates and franchises seven restaurant brands across the country, including Cantina Laredo.

“There’s not the number of people (in Clayton) that there were pre-pandemic, especially during the daytime,” he said. “That is an unfortunate reality about a lot of retail businesses and restaurants that are dependent on a core, urban, downtown area.”
The number of people served at the restaurant each week in 2023 was down 40% compared with 2019, Watson said.
CRO partnered with Clayton-based managed care firm Centene Corp. (NYSE: CNC) to open the restaurant, located on the ground floor of Centene Plaza B, a 17-story, 500,000-square-foot office building in downtown Clayton.
Click here to read the full story from the St. Louis Business Journal. A subscription is required. 

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PostJan 03, 2024#12

Cantina was one of the worst Mexican restaurants in town. They can blame foot traffic all they want, but Pastaria seems to be doing fine.

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PostJan 03, 2024#13

Clayton's full-service restaurants year to date 2023 through Q3 (sept) vs same period in 2019 
2023- $45,878,907 
2019- $44,351,937 just +3%...

stl city is +23%

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PostJan 03, 2024#14

-15% when factoring in CPI, ouch.

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PostJan 03, 2024#15

I grew up in Dallas, eating frequently at Cantina Laredo there, and it was good.  It was also not positioned in any way as upscale. The one in Clayton was horrible. When they started franchising they decided to re-position themselves as more high-end, and it just didn't work.  It would be one thing if you were paying less than $15 for lunch, but at their price points, they needed to knock it out of the park. St. Louis severely lacks on the tex-mex front. 

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PostJan 03, 2024#16

And so much of that is at Wydown and Hanley. Fantastic restaurants at that corner.

PostJan 03, 2024#17

jeff707 wrote:
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I grew up in Dallas, eating frequently at Cantina Laredo there, and it was good.  It was also not positioned in any way as upscale. The one in Clayton was horrible. When they started franchising they decided to re-position themselves as more high-end, and it just didn't work.  It would be one thing if you were paying less than $15 for lunch, but at their price points, they needed to knock it out of the park. St. Louis severely lacks on the tex-mex front. 
The situation is much improved with Arzola’s, El Milagro Azteca, and there’s a new one in the county getting solid reviews. Taco Circus is also OK.

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PostJan 03, 2024#18

Mi Ranchito, La Catrina, El Catrin, El Potro

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PostJan 03, 2024#19

When I worked down there Cantina Laredo was a great place for a work happy hour or to take a client out for a quick bite. I never considered actually going there for dinner with my partner for instance.

The space is cool as hell, I doubt it will be vacant long.

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PostJan 03, 2024#20

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
Jan 03, 2024
jeff707 wrote:
Jan 03, 2024
I grew up in Dallas, eating frequently at Cantina Laredo there, and it was good.  It was also not positioned in any way as upscale. The one in Clayton was horrible. When they started franchising they decided to re-position themselves as more high-end, and it just didn't work.  It would be one thing if you were paying less than $15 for lunch, but at their price points, they needed to knock it out of the park. St. Louis severely lacks on the tex-mex front. 
The situation is much improved with Arzola’s, El Milagro Azteca, and there’s a new one in the county getting solid reviews. Taco Circus is also OK.
Arzola's is great.  I have yet to go to El Milagro.  Taco Circus is fine. It is only carry out, and you have to stand in a cigar-smelling waiting room to get your food, which is absolutely gross and a massive turneoff for all of those restaurants sharing that kitchen.

PostJan 03, 2024#21

quincunx wrote:
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Mi Ranchito, La Catrina, El Catrin, El Potro
Mi Ranchito is fine.  It is entry-level tex-mex that clears the bar.  The other three are new to me, so I will definitely seek them out. 

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PostJan 03, 2024#22

I would describe those others as “entry level” too. Fonda La Poblanita is a great spot too.

Some great Mexican food in the area on and north of Page west of 170. I love Tacqueira Durango.

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PostJan 05, 2024#23

SRQ2STL wrote:
Jan 03, 2024
New Rooster location coming to Carondelet Plaza in Clayton, where White Box Eatery was, next door to 801 Fish.
The breakfast type restaurants in Clayton is getting crowded. But most have recognizable names and draw from outside the area a bit. 
Rooster - coming
First Watch - coming - still don't get a need for this one to come back with brentwood and Ucity locations
Original pancake house
Half and Half
City coffee and creperie 
Kingside Diner
Herbies does a brunch also

probably others I missed

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PostJan 05, 2024#24

jshank83 wrote:
Jan 05, 2024
SRQ2STL wrote:
Jan 03, 2024
New Rooster location coming to Carondelet Plaza in Clayton, where White Box Eatery was, next door to 801 Fish.
The breakfast type restaurants in Clayton is getting crowded. But most have recognizable names and draw from outside the area a bit. 
Rooster - coming
First Watch - coming - still don't get a need for this one to come back with brentwood and Ucity locations
Original pancake house
Half and Half
City coffee and creperie 
Kingside Diner
Herbies does a brunch also

probably others I missed
First Watch is coming back to Clayton?

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PostJan 05, 2024#25

dweebe wrote:
Jan 05, 2024
jshank83 wrote:
Jan 05, 2024
SRQ2STL wrote:
Jan 03, 2024
New Rooster location coming to Carondelet Plaza in Clayton, where White Box Eatery was, next door to 801 Fish.
The breakfast type restaurants in Clayton is getting crowded. But most have recognizable names and draw from outside the area a bit. 
Rooster - coming
First Watch - coming - still don't get a need for this one to come back with brentwood and Ucity locations
Original pancake house
Half and Half
City coffee and creperie 
Kingside Diner
Herbies does a brunch also

probably others I missed
First Watch is coming back to Clayton?
Yes. Going in Forsyth pointe

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