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PostJul 31, 2023#7951

^ I read through a bit of the Reddit thread. He apparently jailbreaked it and bragged about it.

He’ll be getting a visit from the Feds if he hasn’t already.

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PostJul 31, 2023#7952

^ He claimed in another thread that they were not his own photos. 

I don't know how true that is, but he'll definitely be getting a visit from the feds either way. 

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PostAug 01, 2023#7953

Folks like that very much get on my nerves. It's dangerous, inconsiderate, and generally makes life worse for everyone. I hope the operator faces the full consequences of their actions. X(

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PostAug 02, 2023#7954

Sounds like we are getting new routes tomorrow

Airport commission updates:
Southwest schedule released for March tomorrow. Rhonda said they had a meeting today and good story/press release coming tomorrow related to that.
July checkpoint was 40k more than 2019
Boeing lease terms agreed on, special meeting next week to approve.

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PostAug 02, 2023#7955

Wave of construction projects at St. Louis Airport

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/wave- ... s-airport/

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PostAug 03, 2023#7956

Southwest adding San Francisco and Cabo San Lucas

Edit: also West Palm Beach

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PostAug 03, 2023#7957

Cabo direct!?!

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PostAug 03, 2023#7958

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
Aug 03, 2023
Cabo direct!?!
Yep on Saturdays
Now have 4 international plus Puerto Rico.

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PostAug 03, 2023#7959

jshank83 wrote:
Aug 03, 2023
Southwest adding San Francisco and Cabo San Lucas

Edit: also West Palm Beach

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PostAug 03, 2023#7960

Customs on Saturdays in March will be busy.

Arrival times
1155 Cancun Southwest 737MAX8
1505 Cancun Southwest 737-800
1650 Cancun Frontier A321
1700 Cancun AA 737
1715 Cabo Southwest 737-700
1805 Montego Bay Southwest 737-800
1845 Punta Cana Southwest 737-800
2000 Punta Cana Frontier A320

In theory there would be room for Lufthansa, if they wanted to go to 5x a week, to fit in a turn also with most flights pushed after 5 pm.

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PostAug 04, 2023#7961

In March 2023, Southwest scheduled a total of 712 flights each week. In comparison, the airline next March will increase their scheduled flights by 119 for a total of 831 weekly. The airline, that same month, will increase their non-stop service originating from STL to a total of 53 markets. Currently, the airline has just under 58 percent (57.7) of the market share of STL’s enplaned passengers.

PostAug 04, 2023#7962

matguy70 wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
In March 2023, Southwest scheduled a total of 712 flights each week. In comparison, the airline next March will increase their scheduled flights by 119 for a total of 831 weekly. The airline, that same month, will increase their non-stop service originating from STL to a total of 53 markets. Currently, the airline has just under 58 percent (57.7) of the market share of STL’s enplaned passengers.
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... routes.cfm

Southwest's commitment to growing St. Louis' (hub) and connection operations is continuing and consistent with their rhetoric. Showing that the STL operations, connections and (O&D) passenger growth is strong.

STL's projected spring 2024 growth in new service, new and expanded international service, and additional service was the third largest increase in the system.  Only DEN and BWI will have larger service increases.  

Across state, seasonal service is returning for MCI with +15 weekday increase flights and +24 weekend seasonal service. Slower and less increases, I am sure, KC was hoping for with their new single terminal airport. Just south, BNA has just 1 returning seasonal service and no new service or increased frequencies.  

Recently, I spoke to a SWA pilot's wife that has her husband stationed out of DAL but was told by the airline it plans to open a STL crew operating base in 2024. Hearsay but seems rational and from a source that seems legit and reputable.  

https://wieck-swa-production.s3-us-west ... 463b47f736

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PostAug 04, 2023#7963

matguy70 wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
matguy70 wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
In March 2023, Southwest scheduled a total of 712 flights each week. In comparison, the airline next March will increase their scheduled flights by 119 for a total of 831 weekly. The airline, that same month, will increase their non-stop service originating from STL to a total of 53 markets. Currently, the airline has just under 58 percent (57.7) of the market share of STL’s enplaned passengers.
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... routes.cfm

Southwest's commitment to growing St. Louis' (hub) and connection operations is continuing and consistent with their rhetoric. Showing that the STL operations, connections and (O&D) passenger growth is strong.

STL's projected spring 2024 growth in new service, new and expanded international service, and additional service was the third largest increase in the system.  Only DEN and BWI will have larger service increases.  

Across state, seasonal service is returning for MCI with +15 weekday increase flights and +24 weekend seasonal service. Slower and less increases, I am sure, KC was hoping for with their new single terminal airport. Just south, BNA has just 1 returning seasonal service and no new service or increased frequencies.  

Recently, I spoke to a SWA pilot's wife that has her husband stationed out of DAL but was told by the airline it plans to open a STL crew operating base in 2024. Hearsay but seems rational and from a source that seems legit and reputable.  

https://wieck-swa-production.s3-us-west ... 463b47f736
For a comparison

Flights in this update.

Nashville
147 MThF
128 Sa
150 Su

Stl
123 MThF
108 Sa
118 Su

KC
75
70
79

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PostAug 04, 2023#7964

matguy70 wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
matguy70 wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
In March 2023, Southwest scheduled a total of 712 flights each week. In comparison, the airline next March will increase their scheduled flights by 119 for a total of 831 weekly. The airline, that same month, will increase their non-stop service originating from STL to a total of 53 markets. Currently, the airline has just under 58 percent (57.7) of the market share of STL’s enplaned passengers.

Recently, I spoke to a SWA pilot's wife that has her husband stationed out of DAL but was told by the airline it plans to open a STL crew operating base in 2024. Hearsay but seems rational and from a source that seems legit and reputable.  
I was going to postulate that a crew base would be coming if they kept this up.  Good to hear its already in the ether/rumor mill. 

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PostAug 04, 2023#7965

Checking the current WN bases:

Los Angeles, Orlando, Phoenix, Oakland, Houston, Dallas, Baltimore, Denver, Chicago, Las Vegas, and Atlanta.

And the top 10 WN markets:
  1. Denver
  2. Chicago Midway
  3. Phoenix
  4. Baltimore
  5. Dallas Love
  6. Las Vegas
  7. Houston Hobby
  8. Orlando
  9. Nashville
  10. Atlanta
After doing a quick search, I don't see their next 5-10 markets but I would presume we fall in that range?

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PostAug 04, 2023#7966

pdm_ad wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
Checking the current WN bases:

Los Angeles, Orlando, Phoenix, Oakland, Houston, Dallas, Baltimore, Denver, Chicago, Las Vegas, and Atlanta.

And the top 10 WN markets:
  1. Denver
  2. Chicago Midway
  3. Phoenix
  4. Baltimore
  5. Dallas Love
  6. Las Vegas
  7. Houston Hobby
  8. Orlando
  9. Nashville
  10. Atlanta
After doing a quick search, I don't see their next 5-10 markets but I would presume we fall in that range?
Latest update we are ahead of Atlanta.  Not sure on Orlando. I think we flux between 9-12 depending on the month. We stay pretty steady on flights but the Florida airports flux a ton.

Oakland and LA are way down at the moment.

OAK
113
77
91

I think LAX is under 100

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PostAug 04, 2023#7967

^ Thanks!

Seems like BNA and STL are the obvious choices for new crew bases, if # of flights is the primary consideration.

When they open these bases, are they staffed with both pilots and FAs? Or, do they have FA only bases?

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PostAug 04, 2023#7968

pdm_ad wrote:
Aug 04, 2023
^ Thanks!

Seems like BNA and STL are the obvious choices for new crew bases, if # of flights is the primary consideration.

When they open these bases, are they staffed with both pilots and FAs? Or, do they have FA only bases?
Both.

They have done a few satellite bases that were only FAs temporarily, but I’m not sure they have anymore.

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PostAug 08, 2023#7969

Over on KCRag, someone posted that the master plan shows WN using 22 gates. I believe they are at 17 now, I wonder if they will try and build out a couple more in the old D concourse until the new terminal comes online.

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PostAug 08, 2023#7970

pdm_ad wrote:Over on KCRag, someone posted that the master plan shows WN using 22 gates. I believe they are at 17 now, I wonder if they will try and build out a couple more in the old D concourse until the new terminal comes online.
They’re referencing a post on Airliners which quoted the master plan document from last year. It said that Southwest expected to have 22 gates by 2040.

Read to me as a future looking planning doc and less so any type of firm commitment.

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PostAug 08, 2023#7971

pdm_ad wrote:
Aug 08, 2023
Over on KCRag, someone posted that the master plan shows WN using 22 gates. I believe they are at 17 now, I wonder if they will try and build out a couple more in the old D concourse until the new terminal comes online.
They are going to redo D anyway for airlines to move over from A. When demo starts

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PostAug 08, 2023#7972

The 2023 Master Plan documents on the airport website are required for FAA approval.  Which was received.

They are not any sort of finalized plan for a new terminal...more of a guiding document for the next 10 years or so.  Airline negotiations are ongoing, environmental is just now starting and architectural design won't begin until next year.  Outside of the broad strokes we don't really know what this thing is going to look like just yet.

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PostAug 09, 2023#7973

jshank83 wrote:
Aug 08, 2023
pdm_ad wrote:
Aug 08, 2023
Over on KCRag, someone posted that the master plan shows WN using 22 gates. I believe they are at 17 now, I wonder if they will try and build out a couple more in the old D concourse until the new terminal comes online.
They are going to redo D anyway for airlines to move over from A. When demo starts
True, I was hoping that WN continues to expand it's footprint in the immediate future.

I've been following the KC airport thread while their new terminal was built and opened just to get an idea of what we could be dealing with and it's been amusing reading the comments about how they would surely have TATL service once the new terminal opened and that they would be able to steal WN service away from or grow at the expense of STL. It's still early on but, as we've seen, neither of those predictions have come to fruition and the posters there are starting to sour on their airport leadership. 

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PostAug 09, 2023#7974

Surprise population and the amount of economic activity and tourism also matter in getting flights in addition to airport facilities.

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PostAug 09, 2023#7975

In my opinion, more likely United sets up medium hub operations in KC. Denver overflow. Which would help attract an international mainline.

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