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^Not sure I get the purpose of consolidating jurisdictions unless that's somehow necessary to carry out the promotion policies aimed at getting more officers out of their office and into the streets. If that's the case, then I support it. 

SLMPD already has one of highest numbers of officers per capita and one of the largest per capita budgets. I've heard anecdotally from LEOs at NIA meetings that one of their problems is an imbalance of desk and patrol officers and essentially too many legacy employees not doing much but padding their pensions before retirement. No idea how true that is, but I'm sure its at least a problem, if not the main problem.

St. Louis makes a cameo in the latest City Nerd video.

"McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski has big concerns about surging crime in Chicago, where the fast food giant is based, saying it is . . .  making it harder to recruit corporate talent."

Sound familiar? 

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/mcd ... _test=1_11

Unfortunate that the updated census figures took away the "bleeding population" talking point from the creepy CEOs trying to strangle Chicago. At least crime will always be there to fearmonger about!

New Orleans becomes murder capital of America, overtaking St. Louis
https://nypost.com/2022/09/18/new-orleans-becomes-murder-capital-of-america-overtaking-st-louis/

With a mild September on the homicide front we are back on track to finish under last years 199 (and much less than last years 225 when justified are included)

142 counted + 9 justified = 151 so far
148 counted + 17 justified = 165 at end of sept 2021

Eventually STL County homicides will outnumber City. If anyone wants to consider that "positive" then ok whatever.

Also, heard/read where there are less felonies in City. Joke numbers.

Problem:

Too many people in jail for crime.

Solution:

Don't arrest anybody.

Whatever. It's a joke.

^Are auto-related thefts felonies? Last night there was a group of 5 disadvantaged youths roaming the neighborhood busting out car windows and stealing whatever was inside.  Probably just looking for their lost homework, right? This was at 9pm when there were still plenty of people out and about on a very lovely evening.

I've lived in the city, in "nice" neighborhoods, for ~13 years now and this was a first.  We had a group of concerned neighbors tracking their movement, shining lights, turning on alarms etc. to deter their activity for a good 30 minutes while reporting to police, but to my knowledge the po-pos never showed up to take a report much less do anything about it. 

It's only a matter of time before one of these misbegotten angels gets merc'd by one of my more reactionary neighbors and I'm not sure my leftist heart will bleed for them at this point.  I suspect most of us will look the other way and quietly cheer it. Given MO's laws, its might even show up as "justified" in DB's stat report.

In highschool (private), we went out to west country or clayton and ripped off Mercedes, Jags and other fancy car emblems off the hoods of cars for fun and at the time it sure was fun. 

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Sep 26, 2022

In highschool (private), we went out to west country or clayton and ripped off Mercedes, Jags and other fancy car emblems off the hoods of cars for fun and at the time it sure was fun. 

I think that's hilarious and likely would have joined you. This was not that.

One of the main reasons I live in St. Louis City is because is basically lawless. That's for real.

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Sep 26, 2022

Eventually STL County homicides will outnumber City. If anyone wants to consider that "positive" then ok whatever.

Sure it's positive, since they aren't in "St. Louis," they don't count towards the numerator when calculating the murder rate and rankings.

In a very strange way, St. Louis City is a very libertarian place in a weird way. You aren't going to get hassled by cops. Street hassles are easily avoided if you have any brains at all.

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Sep 26, 2022

In a very strange way, St. Louis City is a very libertarian place in a weird way. You aren't going to get hassled by cops. Street hassles are easily avoided if you have any brains at all.

Very true. SBDs/CIDs are basically little private governments. We're field testing minarchy in real time, with private neighborhood militias aka "nightwatchmen" coming soon...

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Sep 26, 2022

Eventually STL County homicides will outnumber City. If anyone wants to consider that "positive" then ok whatever.

Also, heard/read where there are less felonies in City.  Joke numbers.

Problem:

Too many people in jail for crime.

Solution:

Don't arrest anybody.

Whatever. It's a joke.

George W Bush killed like a million Iraqis and nobody is even talking about arresting him, hard to believe people get worked up over murderers with single-digit victim counts.

That has to be the most extreme example of whataboutism I have seen this year.

I am by no means a TC fan. I just found this interesting.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mXJBsLnwsPk?feature=share

Officers per resident 

Miami  1 per 314
STL City 1 per 275

Has anyone come up with a way to take into account visitors when calculating and comparing stats like that? For instance in 2021 SLMPD made 45, 145 traffic stops. 16,553, 37% were of city residents, so non-residents are taking up a non-negligible amount of policing capacity.

https://ago.mo.gov/home/vehicle-stops-report

Does anyone know the breakdown stats of STL PD? This is probably a DB question.


What percentage is female/male/trans and black/white/Latino/other?

The composition of the department's total personnel, according to the 2020 annual report, was:

Sex — Male: 83.54%, Female: 16.46%
Race — White: 66.0%, African-American/Black: 30%, Other: 3.51%