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PostOct 08, 2021#26

BioSTL invested in Benson Hill when it needed money. Now it’s worth $2 billion
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... -2-billion
“What an incredible moment for St. Louis and for everyone who has been part of this company,” Bolten recalled on Friday’s St. Louis on the Air. “Just to be there at the center of commerce for the U.S. and really the world, and see our little company from St. Louis — not so little anymore, but growing quickly — there, center stage. The whole building was lit up with Benson Hill. Times Square was lit up with Benson Hill. What a day.”
“We can build those great companies in St. Louis. St. Louis has more plant science PhDs than any other city in the world. We have tremendous intellectual capital here, the beginning of these great companies [like] the Danforth Center, the legacy of Monsanto, now Bayer. We have an incredible opportunity to be the leader in plant science startups.”

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PostNov 17, 2021#27

Startup developing crop improvement technology raises $7.1M
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/inn ... es-7m.html

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PostSep 16, 2022#28

St. Louis-led partnership wins $80M federal grant to develop 'climate-smart' agriculture production
A partnership group led by Crestwood-based renewable energy producer Roeslein Alternative Energy won an $80 million federal grant to fund development of so-called "climate-smart" agriculture production.

RAE and 13 public and private entities received the funding from the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Partnerships for Climate-Smart Commodities program, which this week awarded $2.8 billion in 70 projects as part of a first pool of funding. Another round of grants will be announced later this year.

The RAE partnership's grant will fund a five-year pilot project, called Horizon II, to enhance climate-smart markets, reduce greenhouse gas emissions and improve carbon sequestration in producing corn, soybean, pork and beef commodities. The project will be developed in Iowa and Missouri where much of the corn, soybeans and pork are produced in the U.S., officials said. Farmers, livestock producers and landowners will be compensated for reducing greenhouse gases and carbon sequestration in soil through a carbon credit program.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2022/09/15/st-louis-roeslein-partners-on-80m-climate-smart-ag.html?cx_testId=40&cx_testVariant=cx_5&cx_artPos=7#cxrecs_s

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PostSep 16, 2022#29

Great news, maybe tone down the font on the announcement lol.

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PostSep 18, 2022#30

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BioSTL invested in Benson Hill when it needed money. Now it’s worth $2 billion
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... -2-billion
“What an incredible moment for St. Louis and for everyone who has been part of this company,” Bolten recalled on Friday’s St. Louis on the Air. “Just to be there at the center of commerce for the U.S. and really the world, and see our little company from St. Louis — not so little anymore, but growing quickly — there, center stage. The whole building was lit up with Benson Hill. Times Square was lit up with Benson Hill. What a day.”
“We can build those great companies in St. Louis. St. Louis has more plant science PhDs than any other city in the world. We have tremendous intellectual capital here, the beginning of these great companies [like] the Danforth Center, the legacy of Monsanto, now Bayer. We have an incredible opportunity to be the leader in plant science startups.”
Their IPO was a massive fraud intended to provide exit liquidity for the original investors. Sad.

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PostSep 19, 2022#31

^Uh, no. Company is a startup small cap with negative P/E that went public just last year and has been beaten up by this year's broader markets. Sure, its shares have gone down more than the S&P 500 YTD, but anticipating otherwise in these market conditions is foolish, ridiculous, and wholly unreasonable. Meanwhile, its last two earnings announcements have had positive upside surprises, beating Street estimates. BHIL is a long-term play, and these are hard economic times. 

She's not a fraud. She just has a large beta. 

Watch how you use the word "fraud". 
It's very serious and connotates criminality. 
There's no criminality here. 

Disclosure: I'm an investment manager. I'm not advising anyone to buy or sell shares in this company or any other. 

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PostSep 20, 2022#32

You pretty much have to be a criminal to have used a SPAC to take your company public during the most recent bull market. Just because the SEC is asleep at the wheel doesn't mean that the law isn't being broken all the time by nearly everyone operating in the VC scene.

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(rant) Dude, really, this is an evolution of the initial public offering. While I personally prefer the traditional use of big, stodgy investment banks, I know that a lot of people don't, with some even calling such things classist and elitist. In the end, SPACs do the same thing at lower costs and at a more "equitable" basis. This is how things have evolved. Now, don't go telling me that such things are innately criminal because BHIL and a couple other over-hyped "unicorns" aren't performing so hot in a GDMF bear market amidst the highest inflation in 40 years! FFS, I thought the whole run of these companies was, to use an Alan Greenspan phrase, "irrational exuberance". BUT, whether they went through a SPAC or a Traditional IPO, the end result is the same. Saying that "you pretty much have to be a criminal" is a pretty big club to be swinging, really audacious and presumptuous. Honestly, besides being both insulting and overbearing, it's really, really poor taste to blame EVERYONE for damn near anything here. 

Who you are blaming...  
  • Companies that went public with a SPAC - or, at least certain ones. 
  • The SEC - for being lax, it seems. 
  • Venture capitalists - in your words, "nearly the entire industry". Are you including Arch Grants, 630, Confluence, Cultivation Capital, and Prolog Ventures? Because they're the reason we have a startup community here. IPOs, whether traditional or through a SPAC, are a foundation to startup communities that we farking celebrated for BHIL. You can't have it both ways. 
Realize you're trying to damn the venture capital industry, new publicly traded companies, and the entire infrastructure that furthers startup companies IN A THREAD ABOUT THE AGRICULTURAL TECHNOLOGY STARTUP COMMUNITY!!!

Again, BHIL is underperforming the broader markets because it's a new; pre-earnings; small cap; with a high beta; in an inflationary bear market; NOT for the mechanism that took them public in the first place. If you don't know what these terms mean, look them up or ask. No shame. Stuff gets confusing. Meanwhile, I'll gladly tell you about how the yield curve is twisting equity markets right now, how we've been going through bear rallies this summer, and to keep your eyes out for the FOMC announcement this week. BUT, it's not that they went SPAC over Traditional IPO. If you can't grasp this, then stop talking about SPACs like you do, because - good or bad - your knowledge base is on full display right now. 

Reminder: There are at least two other newly public companies in STL that went the SPAC route, and I don't hear anyone b*tching about them.(/rant)

I need a coffee and a smoke. Let's get back on topic...

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PostSep 20, 2022#34

Pretty hard to paint with too broad a brush when it comes to finance. Almost everyone involved is either a criminal or an attorney that gets them off the hook for their routine criminality. Just because I don't have a JD or other advanced degree doesn't mean I don't understand how markets work or that I somehow wouldn't know what "small cap" means. I really couldn't care less how much smarter you think you are than other people, but it is usually polite not to trumpet that kind of viewpoint. Benson Hill has performed poorly because its business doesn't make money, and the market (on the other side of the bear market hysteria) thinks that it is not likely that it ever will. 

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By implication, you just called me a criminal... Talk about painting with a wide brush. 

Also, no farking shat that BHIL is not making money right now; that's what "pre-earnings" means. 

Ebsy wrote:Just because I don't have a JD or other advanced degree doesn't mean I don't understand how markets work or that I somehow wouldn't know what "small cap" means. 
OK, I'll give you credit for having an idea of what small cap means, but not "pre-earnings". Seriously, the gall to admit you don't have the education to do a certain professional career, right after calling all members of that economic sector a criminal... Then, you say you understand the financial services industry even without education or experience, then blatantly demonstrate that you don't know what you're talking about. I'll also give you credit for your self-confidence, because it takes balls to be wrong that confidently. 

Meanwhile, it should be obvious (but apparently not to you) that investors in Benson Hill participated in the first place because they believe the company will be profitable in the future. There's literally no reason why an investor would do otherwise. Yeah, you may say "criminality", but realize that you'd be calling Google Ventures a criminal now because... they decided to invest in a 'lil startup ag tech company? 

Also, how would you like it if some random internet avatar started calling you a criminal because of the job you do? Only then to profess how they don't know the industry nor have the education or experience to do the job in the first place? That would suck, wouldn't it? Maybe even be "out of line" for that to be said in the first place? How would you like it if I came to your job and called you a criminal? Then told you that you weren't doing your job correctly, only to then say that I had no education or experience to know what I was talking about in the first place? You'd be understandably upset, wouldn't you? 

7.7MM people work in financial services, ebsy. Stop making derogatory insults at broad demographics of people. 

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Ebsy wrote:
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Pretty hard to paint with too broad a brush when it comes to finance. Almost everyone involved is either a criminal or an attorney that gets them off the hook for their routine criminality. 
I bet you got laid in college.

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PostSep 20, 2022#37

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Pretty hard to paint with too broad a brush when it comes to finance. Almost everyone involved is either a criminal or an attorney that gets them off the hook for their routine criminality. 
I bet you got laid in college.
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By implication, you just called me a criminal... Talk about painting with a wide brush. 

Also, no farking shat that BHIL is not making money right now; that's what "pre-earnings" means. 

Ebsy wrote:Just because I don't have a JD or other advanced degree doesn't mean I don't understand how markets work or that I somehow wouldn't know what "small cap" means. 
OK, I'll give you credit for having an idea of what small cap means, but not "pre-earnings". Seriously, the gall to admit you don't have the education to do a certain professional career, right after calling all members of that economic sector a criminal... Then, you say you understand the financial services industry even without education or experience, then blatantly demonstrate that you don't know what you're talking about. I'll also give you credit for your self-confidence, because it takes balls to be wrong that confidently. 

Meanwhile, it should be obvious (but apparently not to you) that investors in Benson Hill participated in the first place because they believe the company will be profitable in the future. There's literally no reason why an investor would do otherwise. Yeah, you may say "criminality", but realize that you'd be calling Google Ventures a criminal now because... they decided to invest in a 'lil startup ag tech company? 

Also, how would you like it if some random internet avatar started calling you a criminal because of the job you do? Only then to profess how they don't know the industry nor have the education or experience to do the job in the first place? That would suck, wouldn't it? Maybe even be "out of line" for that to be said in the first place? How would you like it if I came to your job and called you a criminal? Then told you that you weren't doing your job correctly, only to then say that I had no education or experience to know what I was talking about in the first place? You'd be understandably upset, wouldn't you? 

7.7MM people work in financial services, ebsy. Stop making derogatory insults at broad demographics of people. 
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PostSep 20, 2022#39

I think to call someone a criminal you should at least have to identify the crime.

The stock market is by its nature in a way a Ponzi scheme.  People invest based on dearly held belief in value.  Price increases which induces more investors to pile on chasing a quick return.  Eventually people are investing not on fundamentals and its purely speculative.  Then the smart money jumps ship and waits for things to cool down.

When people treat it like a casino they get casino results.  I've never met someone that came out on the upside of a trade that felt bad for the guy left holding the share when it all crashed.  And there is always a person on the other side of a trade.  Most people have no business investing in individual stocks because assessing value is extremely difficult and rife with risk.

In the strictest sense this is all very very legal.

EDIT* Ponzi scheme may not be the best description as  i think that has a very specific definition but you get the idea.

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PostSep 20, 2022#40

Ebsy wrote:
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Pretty hard to paint with too broad a brush when it comes to finance. Almost everyone involved is either a criminal or an attorney that gets them off the hook for their routine criminality. 
Hmm, I didn’t realize my local CPA was a criminal.  News to me, I guess lol.

Does this make Edward Jones a cartel?  (Being facetious, of course lol)

It’s also a little humorous that this entire conversation started because someone found a post I wrote…last October haha.

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PostSep 21, 2022#41

Do the naysayers realize there's such a thing as a long term investment? The market isn't a ponzi scheme. It looks like one to some people who play the market looking for a quick buck. That or a slot machine. But in the end, you're buying a share of a business. Dividends are real. If a company is profitable it's definitely worth having a slice of the pie, even if you never plan to sell it. And it's better still to get in early, when it's just an idea and not a company. To invest early, so that the idea can become something. In some very real ways it's not all that different than me coming to my donors and saying "if you put money in this thing I will give you joy." The only difference is that a businessman with an idea says they'll give you more money if you put in a little to begin with . . . just so long as the idea works out. (I can't actually promise that my little art project will give you joy. I just promise to make a good faith effort at joy and beauty. Crap happens. Maybe the soloist gets sick. Maybe the widget doesn't sell. But if you get in early you get more joy. Or more money.) Yeesh, I'm a frigging composer and I know enough to know there's a point to the darn thing. My financial adviser is not a criminal. Ordinary people can safely invest in the market without needing to buy a kit of starter stocks to sell to their hundred best friends. If you do it right it's safe, but probably un-sexy. My lawyer friends aren't criminals either. And I don't particularly think I'm a criminal, simply because we have a little stock through some retirement accounts, some employee stock purchases, and even a little play money in a market account. The financial markets are a big part of why we can have things like air conditioning and computers. Capital fuels innovation. It absolutely needs regulation so people don't slip ponzi schemes in. (Or worse.) But I'm not about to suggest doing away with the entire banking industry and everything it represents. Money makes the world better. Markets make the world better. (Usually.)

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PostSep 08, 2023#42

High-profile agtech firm opens new 48,000-square-foot production facility in Hazelwood
A California-based agriculture firm has expanded its presence locally, opening a new 48,000-square-foot production facility in Hazelwood. 
Pivot Bio Inc. has begun operating from its new “Product Success Center” at 639 Lambert Pointe Drive as it continues to build out the facility for manufacturing of its products that serve as a replacement to synthetic fertilizers for crops. It will also house research and development efforts.

The new Hazelwood facility marks an expansion in St. Louis for Pivot. While headquartered in Berkeley, California, Pivot has made St. Louis a key hub of its operations for several years, with two lab spaces located at BRDG Park on the campus of the Donald Danforth Plant Science Center in Creve Coeur. Founded in 2011, Pivot is focused on developing and commercializing crop nutrition technology it says is more climate friendly and efficient to use than existing options for growers. That has meant developing products that “deliver nitrogen to plants without the negative impacts of synthetic fertilizer” such as greenhouse gas emissions. It has raised hundreds of millions from investors, including a $430 million Series D funding round closed in 2021. It has been backed by investors with local ties, including Bunge Ventures, the venture capital arm of Chesterfield-based agriculture giant Bunge (NYSE: BG), and the former Monsanto Growth Ventures, which was the venture capital arm of Monsanto Co. (now Bayer Crop Science). Among its other investors are Continental Grain Co. and Breakthrough Energy Ventures, a climate-focused investment firm founded by Bill Gates.

Pivot has more than 500 employees. That includes 22 full-time employees in St. Louis, a figure the company said it expects to more than double in the coming years as it expands locally with its new facility.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2023/09/07/pivot-bio-hazelwood-production-facility-expansion.html

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PostSep 16, 2023#43

Benson Hill is facing de-listing by the NYSE. I'm not clear on what went wrong with them. Can anyone provide a Cliff's Notes version?  

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 2023-09-15

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PostSep 16, 2023#44

Lots of potential, but not yet profitable. And it probably won’t be profitable for a few years at least.

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PostSep 19, 2023#45

Their IPO was a ponzi scheme. All according to plan.

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PostSep 19, 2023#46

^Disagree. They just got caught up in the unicorn hype and took on capital faster than they could take their product lines profitably to market. I don't see nefarious actions as much as simply bad executive management choices. That said: if you know something, you should call the FBI. Ponzis are serious and should be dealt with harshly. Do we have a 100MM+ premeditated fraud here? Or just online hyperbole? 

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PostSep 19, 2023#47

You spend a lot of time defending Benson Hill for free.

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PostSep 19, 2023#48

Damnit are we going to have to count the last post as a homicide

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PostSep 19, 2023#49

We will make sure to count the homicide against the county and not the city.

But in all seriousness, what is the evidence for a Ponzi scheme (unless you consider the stock market as a whole a Ponzi scheme which is a whole other discussion)?

They just haven’t been able to turn a profit and the stock has gotten whacked for it.

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PostSep 20, 2023#50

I think Ebsy just has a general ax to grind. Or maybe they get some kind of kick out of baiting GC.   

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