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I’m getting conspiracy theorist vibes but the guys seems to know what he’s talking about.

I don't think anyone has taken him seriously for a long time now

lol the Game Theory guy

"Between that and the coup d'etat we're going to start discussing this week this week at the federal level the rackets are coming down in St. Louis because it's a failed state."

Holy cow, dude! Yeah, I wasn't familiar with him before, but that's not the sort of talk I like to hear out of respectable people. Sounds like The Blaze started a fire between his temples.

New study shows welfare prevents crime, quite dramatically https://phys.org/news/2022-06-welfare-crime.html

Chesa gone in SF hopefully Gardner is next but not holding my breath because people in STL are way dumber than SF, on average.

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

Chesa gone in SF hopefully Gardner is next but not holding my breath because people in STL are way dumber than SF, on average.

At least we’re smart enough not to spend 8 lifetimes worth of money on a one bedroom house in a state that’s running out of water and is prone to earthquakes.

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

Chesa gone in SF hopefully Gardner is next but not holding my breath because people in STL are way dumber than SF, on average.

At least we’re smart enough not to spend 8 lifetimes worth of money on a one bedroom house in a state that’s running out of water and is prone to earthquakes.

Oh I agree .

It's a different kind of smart I guess. But Chesa's ignorant, naive ideas about public safety and crime are gone now. SF will never be what it used to be, everything changes, but maybe they can clean it up a bit.

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

Chesa gone in SF hopefully Gardner is next but not holding my breath because people in STL are way dumber than SF, on average.

At least we’re smart enough not to spend 8 lifetimes worth of money on a one bedroom house in a state that’s running out of water and is prone to earthquakes.

Oh I agree .

It's a different kind of smart I guess. But Chesa's ignorant, naive ideas about public safety and crime are gone now. SF will never be what it used to be, everything changes, but maybe they can clean it up a bit.

He probably would have survived if the local recall was the same as state, where Newsome had a loon like Elder to run against. Local recall there isn't a part 2 "if recalled who do you want to replace him with". Ironically the Mayor can now appoint him back to the same position as it's up to her to fill the roll, of course she won't but probably won't stray too much

61% of SF voters said no thanks. Surely London Breed knows simple math. He's gone.

But I get your point. We have Gardner for mostly the same reason....low voter turnout. Weird huh?

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

....low voter turnout.  Weird huh?

This part of the reason I think that local elections should be on the same ballot as the November general election. People would participate more in local politics (voting/caring) if it wasn't a whole separate vote from our state and national offices. Instead we only get the voters who care enough or are able to take part in a relatively under-the-radar election and it's not as good a measure of the views and wants of the population as a whole.

We have Gardner because majority (60% in last election) believe in what she ran on and they still do, it just turned out that she isn't a great leader and can't get anyone competent to work for her. She ran on not hassling people for low level crimes, cracking down on corrupt police and going after hard criminals ...she's just not good at the last part because of issues previously stated

Gardner is literally terrible at her job.  Leaders are measured on metrics like turnover and productivity.  Her numbers are terrible and the city is suffering for it.

_nomad_ wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

....low voter turnout.  Weird huh?

This part of the reason I think that local elections should be on the same ballot as the November general election. People would participate more in local politics (voting/caring) if it wasn't a whole separate vote from our state and national offices. Instead we only get the voters who care enough or are able to take part in a relatively under-the-radar election and it's not as good a measure of the views and wants of the population as a whole.

The Circuit Attorney's race is an August primary and November general election cycle. Maybe the county office elections should work like the others under Prop D rules so that the election that matters is in Nov instead of the Democratic primary in Aug.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

_nomad_ wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2022

....low voter turnout.  Weird huh?

This part of the reason I think that local elections should be on the same ballot as the November general election. People would participate more in local politics (voting/caring) if it wasn't a whole separate vote from our state and national offices. Instead we only get the voters who care enough or are able to take part in a relatively under-the-radar election and it's not as good a measure of the views and wants of the population as a whole.

The Circuit Attorney's race is an August primary and November general election cycle. Maybe the county office elections should work like the others under Prop D rules so that the election that matters is in Nov instead of the Democratic primary in Aug.

Thanks, I had forgotten the Circuit Attorney was on a different ballot than the Alders and Mayor (which maybe strengthens my point that we should be consolidating elections to make things simpler). I 100% agree, we should make it so that the November election should be the one that matters and so that people know it's the one that matters, but I'm departing from the topic of this thread now, my apologies.

With the half time of the year in 3 weeks, here is were we are aiming on the homicide front this year vs previous 3 at end of June.
Obviously the 2022 will inch up to about 85 by end of both, but still best half time score in a while 

2022- 74+2 justified= 76 total 
2021- 90+8 justified= 98 total
2020- 101+8 justified= 109 total
2019- 92+5 justified= 97 total 

^Is the second 2022 supposed to be 2020?

Yes, fixed. Also 2020 added 51 in July, which is mind numbing, I think covid was all the range and I don't recall much about 51 freaking homicides in one month

^Thank you for the clarification!

^^Yeah summer 2020 was horrible--COVID raging without vaccine, everything shut down, and murders through the roof. That's why it's amazing to me that people think of those as the "good ole days" because gas was $2 a gallon. 

We also had protests which consumed police resources for the entire summer.

^ 8 to 9 out of 10 homicides are drug or domestic dispute related, with people at home, millions of job loses suddenly, no where to go or anything to do those two drivers of homicides thrived. 

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Jun 10, 2022

^ 8 to 9 out of 10 homicides are drug or domestic dispute related, with people at home, millions of job loses suddenly, no where to go or anything to do those two drivers of homicides thrived. 

Remember when the Taliban mounted the most successful anti-drug campaign in history in Afghanistan, and then America invaded and put the drug lords in charge of the government?

Anyway drug crime happens because we don't have enough police.

This isn't the movies, people aren't dealing on the street corner. Mine leaves them on his front porch in a soda case.

We have more officer per resident and square mile than pretty much any other city