So, if anyone knows, what’s the timeline look like now?
Is this a good thing? Are they going to start from scratch?quincunx wrote: ↑Mar 16, 2022Balboa Real Estate Partners is now the developer
http://thebalboagroup.com/
STLrainbow wrote:Also, the company (San Francisco based) that apparently is taking over the 1014 Spruce new apartment development from OPUS has taken title to the parcel and it's out of city ownership. I don't see any new permit activity but still a good sign of progress.
Interestingquincunx wrote:STLrainbow wrote:Also, the company (San Francisco based) that apparently is taking over the 1014 Spruce new apartment development from OPUS has taken title to the parcel and it's out of city ownership. I don't see any new permit activity but still a good sign of progress.
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Good signquincunx wrote:STLrainbow wrote:Also, the company (San Francisco based) that apparently is taking over the 1014 Spruce new apartment development from OPUS has taken title to the parcel and it's out of city ownership. I don't see any new permit activity but still a good sign of progress.
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Opus has co developed properties with Balboa before. Don't kno if that's the case with this parcel, Opus isn't doing too hot and has sold quite a few developments off. I gotta feeling the design and scale will see few changes.
Project has returned and is now 148 apartment units. OPUS is out as architect and builder (as expected) and has been replaced by TRi and Brinkmann. Design also changed slightly to be covered in brick and parking entrances being less mega sized. Plans are on the SLDC planroom with bids due back on June 14th.
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As well as compliments existing Cupples structure.mikenewell48 wrote: ↑May 27, 2022thats exciting looking
Now if a nice slender glass residential tower would fill in the surface lot in Cupples that is along the edge of metrolink/right next to Busch Stadium metrolink stop. Would be a couple nice fill ins while everyone waits on DeWItt for 2CW. I thought Koman owned the lot once upon a time and was slated for a commercial development.
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It would be nice to remove the highway ramps between 9th and 10th Street, freeing up almost two entire blocks for redevelopment and making Clark Street a lot friendlier to pedestrians.
As someone who uses one of those ramps on a near-daily basis I would fully support getting rid of them, if MODOT really needs the ramps they should be reconfigured to hug the highway instead of diving across multiple city blocksdebaliviere wrote: ↑May 31, 2022It would be nice to remove the highway ramps between 9th and 10th Street, freeing up almost two entire blocks for redevelopment and making Clark Street a lot friendlier to pedestrians.
I've always thought they were a nuisance. Same with the 14th and Clark ramp. I'm in the camp that we don't need highway exits every 8 blocks.
Added to the fact that they're relatively difficult to find it seems unless you know your way around.
Added to the fact that they're relatively difficult to find it seems unless you know your way around.
Project shows up on a website called "STONEHENGE" as "Project Cardinal". Full size rendering and description attached from website.
https://stonehengereg.com/portfolio/project-cardinal/Project Cardinal is a 148-unit apartment community in St. Louis, MO, including 3,000SF of retail space. The project’s site is an infill location within downtown St. Louis’ entertainment corridor. The site is located on Spruce Street, between the MLB and NHL stadiums, and is two blocks from the live-work-play development, Ballpark Village. The location provides efficient access to major interstates and highways, and is a 10-15 minute drive from the key employment and entertainment hubs in St. Louis (Central West End, Clayton, Cortex, SLU, WashU, The Grove, etc.). The project will contain a full amenity offering including: fitness center, club room, outdoor courtyard, grills, firepits, dog wash station, dog run, rentable work from home space, and rentable storage.
- Name: Spruce Street Apartments (Project Cardinal)
- Location: St. Louis, Missouri
- Number of Units: 148-unit Class A Multifamily Rental Community
- Project Type (Wrap, Podium, Gurban): Podium
- Construction Start Date: Q3 2022
Good time as any to remember #7.
Cupples 7 like Gaslight Square hurt extra for how recently and stupidly they were destroyed.
https://stlouispatina.com/cupples-warehouse-7/
Cupples 7 like Gaslight Square hurt extra for how recently and stupidly they were destroyed.
https://stlouispatina.com/cupples-warehouse-7/
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No pool? Seems like every apartment building has one of those these days. They even squeezed one in over at "Ballpark Heights".
^ Maybe it will help keep the rental cost down a smidge? Not sure.
Speaking of cost, what's the significance of all these amenity decks only being a couple stories above ground/surrounded by the building? While they're certainly nice features, it'd be cool to see actual rooftop decks popup more. I'm assuming it has to do with the way a lot of these are constructed; not being able to physically support it and the overall cost increase, more than it has to do with aesthetic/desire.
Speaking of cost, what's the significance of all these amenity decks only being a couple stories above ground/surrounded by the building? While they're certainly nice features, it'd be cool to see actual rooftop decks popup more. I'm assuming it has to do with the way a lot of these are constructed; not being able to physically support it and the overall cost increase, more than it has to do with aesthetic/desire.
I'd love to see more rooftops, but I can speak to some of the design reasons it's more economical/efficient to keep the amenity decks low:EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Jun 22, 2022^ Maybe it will help keep the rental cost down a smidge? Not sure.
Speaking of cost, what's the significance of all these amenity decks only being a couple stories above ground/surrounded by the building? While they're certainly nice features, it'd be cool to see actual rooftop decks popup more. I'm assuming it has to do with the way a lot of these are constructed; not being able to physically support it and the overall cost increase, more than it has to do with aesthetic/desire.
- it creates a central courtyard the building can wrap around so they can get more exterior wall (and therefore more window) square footage on the upper floors
- the design load of the amenity deck is higher than it is for a typical apartment (ie. lbs per sq ft) especially if there's a pool so it makes more sense structurally to have the deck supported by the steel and concrete podium rather than the wood framing above
- any deck with a rated capacity of over 49 people needs 2 exits and this is easier to provide by wrapping the building around it than extending 2 stairs and an elevator to the roof (which is also expensive since a shorter elevator is less cost)
- it's just easier to waterproof the deck if it's concrete and steel (ie. stiffer materials) than it is on wood framing so building it into the podium is better from that perspective
^ Appreciate the response, and that all makes sense. Seems like as long as they keep the pool on a lower level, it wouldn't be overly difficult (besides the 2 exits) to have a deck up top just for chillin and maybe playing some cornhole/bags or something.
Either way, let's get this thing going.
Either way, let's get this thing going.
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I would think a developer in an area like this or Wash Ave could add one badass amenity deck with a bad ass pool and sell access to it to tenants of surrounding buildings. If it was an option to add $50 bucks to my rent I would take that in a second, even if it meant walking a few blocks to the pool.
$577k building permit for fire sprinklers was issued, but the $25M one submitted 6/7/2021 has yet to be.
$25M building permit issued.
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It looks like work has begun - fencing is up and the grass is no longer there.