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PostJul 16, 2020#26

It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
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It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
I talked to someone from Twain-  they have leased them to someone else who will using it as parking for stadium construction.  by early next year the site will have 50x more workers....they wanted to put in barbed-wire on top of the fence but i put a stop to that.  its not legal in the city, nor are gravel parking lots but i think the city let them slide on that since its "temporary" although generally that means 6 months not 2 years.  

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PostJul 16, 2020#28

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It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
I talked to someone from Twain-  they have leased them to someone else who will using it as parking for stadium construction.  by early next year the site will have 50x more workers....they wanted to put in barbed-wire on top of the fence but i put a stop to that.  its not legal in the city, nor are gravel parking lots but i think the city let them slide on that since its "temporary" although generally that means 6 months not 2 years.  
Why are gravel lots not allowed? Seems like they'd be superior to concrete in rainwater absorption. Rocks being carried off with traffic? 

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PostJul 16, 2020#29

Probably because they look terrible cosmetically and eventually they become covered in weeds and potholes while spreading dust everywhere in the vicinity.

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Probably because they look terrible cosmetically and eventually they become covered in weeds and potholes while spreading dust everywhere in the vicinity.
You could say the exact same thing minus the dust about concrete and asphalt. I prefer the look of gravel actually. 

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PostJul 16, 2020#31

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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Tim wrote:
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It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
I talked to someone from Twain-  they have leased them to someone else who will using it as parking for stadium construction.  by early next year the site will have 50x more workers....they wanted to put in barbed-wire on top of the fence but i put a stop to that.  its not legal in the city, nor are gravel parking lots but i think the city let them slide on that since its "temporary" although generally that means 6 months not 2 years.  
Much appreciated. I think this is the one that had the barbed wire slanted outward, directly above the sidewalk at like 6-foot-3 inches or so. Seemed extremely dangerous for anyone of above average height.

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PostJul 16, 2020#32

Thanks for the info dbInSouthCity.

Regarding gravel lots vs. asphalt lots - compacted gravel (with fines - the dusty cementatious stuff) has about the same permeability as asphalt (so basically none), but creates more sediment runoff.

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PostJan 27, 2022#33

$587k building permit application submitted for an addition to 2000 Washington for restaurant/bar. For Brick River Cider?

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PostJan 28, 2022#34

Yes.

Also maybe just change the title of this thread to downtown west.

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PostFeb 01, 2022#35

Brick River Cider Co. to expand production in Downtown West
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6deb3.html

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PostFeb 02, 2022#37

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Glad to see some more density on that part of Wash Ave, but that add-on is a little tacky

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PostMar 31, 2022#38

Abbott appears to have mostly divested from the area. Guess who the new owners are?

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Yellow = AHM (Los Angeles business address)
Orange = Flyover Fund (St. Louis business address)
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PostMar 31, 2022#39

When I initially saw the property ownership change back in January, everything seemed to come back to AHM Group in some form. If they, or Flyover Fund, convert those buildings into lofts and build some infill on those vacant parcels, I’ll be happy.

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When I initially saw the property ownership change back in January, everything seemed to come back to AHM Group in some form. If they, or Flyover Fund, convert those buildings into lofts and build some infill on those vacant parcels, I’ll be happy.
Looks like AHM Group mostly specializes in hotel construction.

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PostMar 31, 2022#41

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When I initially saw the property ownership change back in January, everything seemed to come back to AHM Group in some form. If they, or Flyover Fund, convert those buildings into lofts and build some infill on those vacant parcels, I’ll be happy.
Looks like AHM Group mostly specializes in hotel construction.
Might be getting them confused a bit. AHM is doing 3201 Morgan Ford, the 22 Lofts, and did the MoFo at 3172 Morgan Ford. I’d be surprised if they changed direction and got into the hospitality business.

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PostApr 01, 2022#42

Looking forward to seeing what they can do. Seems like AHM has had some early success, so hopefully we'll actually see some movement at these sites in the next year or so.

NextSTL did a story on the 2200-2206 Locust redevelopment last year.
https://nextstl.com/2021/06/the-22-ahm- ... 00-locust/

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PostApr 01, 2022#43

vpr611 wrote:
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This looks great!

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PostApr 06, 2022#44

Their cider is good too!

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PostApr 06, 2022#45

Not much progress on the building, some pavement has been ripped out  but thats about it

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PostMay 01, 2022#46

Not sure if a dedicated thread is needed but I see that a Nashville-based music and event venue is renovating 2225 Washington warehouse space and should open this fall.... will be called The Hawthorn.

https://www.kmov.com/2022/04/25/new-ver ... ghborhood/

Also, the company (San Francisco based) that apparently is taking over the 1014 Spruce new apartment development from OPUS has taken  title to the parcel and it's out of city ownership. I don't see any new permit activity but still a good sign of progress.

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PostMay 10, 2022#47


At the corner of Jefferson and Market


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At the corner of Jefferson and Market


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they signed a 10 year lease a while back

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PostMay 10, 2022#49

Are they still building their campus north of downtown? 

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PostMay 10, 2022#50

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Are they still building their campus north of downtown? 
I haven’t heard it being called off, so I assume yes. It was always the plan to have this space during development and construction of new building.

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