It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
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I talked to someone from Twain- they have leased them to someone else who will using it as parking for stadium construction. by early next year the site will have 50x more workers....they wanted to put in barbed-wire on top of the fence but i put a stop to that. its not legal in the city, nor are gravel parking lots but i think the city let them slide on that since its "temporary" although generally that means 6 months not 2 years.Tim wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2020It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
Why are gravel lots not allowed? Seems like they'd be superior to concrete in rainwater absorption. Rocks being carried off with traffic?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2020I talked to someone from Twain- they have leased them to someone else who will using it as parking for stadium construction. by early next year the site will have 50x more workers....they wanted to put in barbed-wire on top of the fence but i put a stop to that. its not legal in the city, nor are gravel parking lots but i think the city let them slide on that since its "temporary" although generally that means 6 months not 2 years.Tim wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2020It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
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Probably because they look terrible cosmetically and eventually they become covered in weeds and potholes while spreading dust everywhere in the vicinity.
You could say the exact same thing minus the dust about concrete and asphalt. I prefer the look of gravel actually.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2020Probably because they look terrible cosmetically and eventually they become covered in weeds and potholes while spreading dust everywhere in the vicinity.
Much appreciated. I think this is the one that had the barbed wire slanted outward, directly above the sidewalk at like 6-foot-3 inches or so. Seemed extremely dangerous for anyone of above average height.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2020I talked to someone from Twain- they have leased them to someone else who will using it as parking for stadium construction. by early next year the site will have 50x more workers....they wanted to put in barbed-wire on top of the fence but i put a stop to that. its not legal in the city, nor are gravel parking lots but i think the city let them slide on that since its "temporary" although generally that means 6 months not 2 years.Tim wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2020It was mentioned in another thread that gravel lots were being installed on the two Twain-owned parcels. Here's a picture of the lot east of 2120 Washington. It has the appearance of construction staging - gravel, RR tie parking blocks, trash cans, and even a porta potty with hand washing station. The two lots seem way too big for just this project though. Could it be overflow for the stadium, or something else?
Thanks for the info dbInSouthCity.
Regarding gravel lots vs. asphalt lots - compacted gravel (with fines - the dusty cementatious stuff) has about the same permeability as asphalt (so basically none), but creates more sediment runoff.
Regarding gravel lots vs. asphalt lots - compacted gravel (with fines - the dusty cementatious stuff) has about the same permeability as asphalt (so basically none), but creates more sediment runoff.
$587k building permit application submitted for an addition to 2000 Washington for restaurant/bar. For Brick River Cider?
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Yes.
Also maybe just change the title of this thread to downtown west.
Also maybe just change the title of this thread to downtown west.
Brick River Cider Co. to expand production in Downtown West
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6deb3.html
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6deb3.html
Glad to see some more density on that part of Wash Ave, but that add-on is a little tackyvpr611 wrote: ↑Feb 01, 2022
Abbott appears to have mostly divested from the area. Guess who the new owners are?
Parcel Map
Yellow = AHM (Los Angeles business address)
Orange = Flyover Fund (St. Louis business address)
Parcel Map
Yellow = AHM (Los Angeles business address)
Orange = Flyover Fund (St. Louis business address)
When I initially saw the property ownership change back in January, everything seemed to come back to AHM Group in some form. If they, or Flyover Fund, convert those buildings into lofts and build some infill on those vacant parcels, I’ll be happy.
Looks like AHM Group mostly specializes in hotel construction.
Looking forward to seeing what they can do. Seems like AHM has had some early success, so hopefully we'll actually see some movement at these sites in the next year or so.
NextSTL did a story on the 2200-2206 Locust redevelopment last year.
https://nextstl.com/2021/06/the-22-ahm- ... 00-locust/
NextSTL did a story on the 2200-2206 Locust redevelopment last year.
https://nextstl.com/2021/06/the-22-ahm- ... 00-locust/
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Not much progress on the building, some pavement has been ripped out but thats about it
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Not sure if a dedicated thread is needed but I see that a Nashville-based music and event venue is renovating 2225 Washington warehouse space and should open this fall.... will be called The Hawthorn.
https://www.kmov.com/2022/04/25/new-ver ... ghborhood/
Also, the company (San Francisco based) that apparently is taking over the 1014 Spruce new apartment development from OPUS has taken title to the parcel and it's out of city ownership. I don't see any new permit activity but still a good sign of progress.
https://www.kmov.com/2022/04/25/new-ver ... ghborhood/
Also, the company (San Francisco based) that apparently is taking over the 1014 Spruce new apartment development from OPUS has taken title to the parcel and it's out of city ownership. I don't see any new permit activity but still a good sign of progress.

At the corner of Jefferson and Market
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Are they still building their campus north of downtown?
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I haven’t heard it being called off, so I assume yes. It was always the plan to have this space during development and construction of new building.





