My entire idea behind extending the trolley and eliminating a Muny lot with a new attraction/amenity is to encourage trolley usage and Metrolink usage.symphonicpoet wrote:Ideally all of them. Or more accurately, I'd love to see them altered in a way to make them less obtrusive on the limited space in the park. It's such a grand spot we can do better. Build a green lid over them. You could put your pool or your hockey rink on top of them. You could put your basketball courts up there, like the tennis courts on Hudlin Park. It'll require money, but I'd say the demand is there to charge more for parking. The zoo's own plan was originally to move the parking south of the highway so they could expand their animal attractions into the lot. (For a little while in the 90s the Botanical Garden had a similar idea. I think they're really missing the boat by failing to put their parking either underground or off site.) This is our premiere neighborhood. People have long demonstrated that they will pay to park there. People are willing to ride Metrolink when it takes them somewhere they want to go. We need to make the transit access better and more obvious. And sure, let's eliminate a parking lot or two.dweebe wrote: ↑Jan 29, 2022What parking lots do you want gone?
That'd be great. Anywhere outside the park would be preferable, except for maybe Hudlin.quincunx wrote: ↑Jan 29, 2022A rec center on DeBaliviere between FPP and Lindell would be even closer to Metrolink.
Perhaps eliminating the Muny lot won't happen, but improving it could. It currently has three driveways and leaves a good amount of greenspace useless (other than shielding the parking lot from Union Drive). Consolidating the lot could result in much more contiguous greenspace for park-goers. Less asphalt, more greenspace, same amount of parking:Miss Shell wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2022Regarding eliminating the Muny lot - that will never happen. The Muny seats 11,000 people, and many of the shows are near capacity. A large percentage of patrons are older and might stop going if they have to either walk a long way from parking on the street or have to take a slow trolly ride to a garage outside the park. You'd also need to increase the trolly stock to handle the volume. The shows get out late enough, too, so folks might end up getting home early the next morning on a work day. There are also all the employees (ushers, concessions, cast, crew, offices) who would need to fight all the patrons for a ride.
Nice idea, but ain't gonna happen. That lot is here to stay.
Editing to add that Stages St. Louis once produced a show at the Orpheum Theatre downtown but stopped due to poor sales. The feedback they received from season ticket holders is that no one felt safe parking downtown. Old people are particular about their parking, and if they stop patronizing, theatres can go under fast.
Steinberg has been used as sand volleyball courts in the summer.Miss Shell wrote: ↑Mar 13, 2022I kind of wish all the athletic fields and courts were near each other to have a sporting section of Forest Park. Maybe build some locker rooms that could be shared by everyone partaking in soccer, basketball, softball, etc. And does the park have any volleyball courts, sand or otherwise?
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They were pretty quiet with that decision. Thanks to Dan Doelling for sharing the documents. The budget they have is $400-700k. How much is that going to get us in terms of facilities?dbInSouthCity wrote:The site has already been selected- its north of Visitors center next to the racquetball courts
For those who like details:SeattleNative wrote: ↑Mar 14, 2022They were pretty quiet with that decision. Thanks to Dan Doelling for sharing the documents. The budget they have is $400-700k. How much is that going to get us in terms of facilities?dbInSouthCity wrote:The site has already been selected- its north of Visitors center next to the racquetball courts
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They weren't that quiet about it. The STL Public Radio article you cite in the NextSTL article says:SeattleNative wrote: ↑Mar 14, 2022They were pretty quiet with that decision. Thanks to Dan Doelling for sharing the documents. The budget they have is $400-700k. How much is that going to get us in terms of facilities?dbInSouthCity wrote:The site has already been selected- its north of Visitors center next to the racquetball courts
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Right, they had that initial preference laid out but they never said that was the final selection publicly beyond a document you had to dig for.wabash wrote:They weren't that quiet about it. The STL Public Radio article you cite in the NextSTL article says:SeattleNative wrote: ↑Mar 14, 2022They were pretty quiet with that decision. Thanks to Dan Doelling for sharing the documents. The budget they have is $400-700k. How much is that going to get us in terms of facilities?dbInSouthCity wrote:The site has already been selected- its north of Visitors center next to the racquetball courts
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A final location for the courts has yet to be decided, but [the City's Parks Director Greg Hayes] said the city and the Forest Park Advisory Board are leaning heavily toward a spot behind the visitors center, close to parking, restrooms and other sports facilities including tennis, handball and racquetball courts.
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