as long as the SLCCU building is repurposed and not demolished. it's an awesome mid-century building. imagine it with it's windows restored.KansasCitian wrote: ↑Feb 15, 2022I'd also love to see the St. Louis Community Credit Union, Minuteman Press, and Circle K just down the street redeveloped into something else as well.
That might not happen until the Forest Park Ave. and Grand Ave. intersection is fixed, though.
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urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Feb 15, 2022sigh. the facade is unsurprisingly terrible. another one that looks like it was designed by a preschooler with A.D.D.
FYI Watched this video the other day, thought it presented a reasonable argument towards this "design style" and its prominence. I post this not really defending it as much as I'm looking to point out how and why it has become such a popular thing on a national basis.
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^ the design is primarily a matter of the arrangement of the materials and not the materials themselves. the DC example at the 2:00 mark in the video looks pretty good. even the Arkansas counterpart of this proposal looks fantastic compared to the STL design.
I feel like this developer and the one next to it should hop on a call and allow that little stretch between them to have a potential to have a slim strip of retail between them like those small brick patios in Europe. (if the Foundry demand fills up, would be a fun overflow possibility - granted this could be done with food carts and picnic tables)
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I wonder how those folks facing the fire station will enjoy having one of the city's outdoor sirens directly outside their windows.
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That patio actually looks like the one at the Cecile Whitaker's on Grand in Carondelet. (Which is a great place to eat on a summer day.) Yeah, something like that would be lovely.
Depends on how you frame it. I lived a block from the fire station in creve coeur and yes it went off several times a day. It would remind me of how well-situated my building was in case of a fire emergency
Guess it’s like living close to the railroad. For a few minutes of the day you hear a noise that reminds you that there is life around you.
I grew up near a RR. Eventually you just get used to it and tune it out. Might be a little tougher right next door but people will manage.imran wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2022Depends on how you frame it. I lived a block from the fire station in creve coeur and yes it went off several times a day. It would remind me of how well-situated my building was in case of a fire emergency
Guess it’s like living close to the railroad. For a few minutes of the day you hear a noise that reminds you that there is life around you.
Not those on trucks and engines, I'm talking about the tornado sirens mounted 40-50ft in the air with well over 100dB directly beside the building. Could be an interesting setup for 3 minutes during monthly tests and warnings, then the 6 minutes for the March statewide drill.imran wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2022Depends on how you frame it. I lived a block from the fire station in creve coeur and yes it went off several times a day. It would remind me of how well-situated my building was in case of a fire emergencyreednavy wrote: ↑Feb 24, 2022I wonder how those folks facing the fire station will enjoy having one of the city's outdoor sirens directly outside their windows.
Guess it’s like living close to the railroad. For a few minutes of the day you hear a noise that reminds you that there is life around you.
Ah. Sorry I did not catch that. For the drills usually they happen during work/school hours when most of the residents you worry about won’t be home. And If it’s an actual tornado warning, they would have bigger things to worry about than siren noise.
The SLU kids will want to set a calendar reminder to keep it to a moderate hangover on those days.reednavy wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2022Not those on trucks and engines, I'm talking about the tornado sirens mounted 40-50ft in the air with well over 100dB directly beside the building. Could be an interesting setup for 3 minutes during monthly tests and warnings, then the 6 minutes for the March statewide drill.imran wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2022Depends on how you frame it. I lived a block from the fire station in creve coeur and yes it went off several times a day. It would remind me of how well-situated my building was in case of a fire emergencyreednavy wrote: ↑Feb 24, 2022I wonder how those folks facing the fire station will enjoy having one of the city's outdoor sirens directly outside their windows.
Guess it’s like living close to the railroad. For a few minutes of the day you hear a noise that reminds you that there is life around you.
A few minutes at 11am the first Monday of the month unless bad weather is already in the area probably isn't that big of a deal. Plenty of people live close to the sirens scattered around the City. If anything, it's probably a bonus that college students have another form of warning nearby. Though with smart phone push warnings, outdoor warning systems are maybe not as important as they were even five or ten years ago. Still, I'd rather have the sirens than not.
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Love to see it. Thanks for the update.
One thing that’s becoming more apparent to me along this stretch of Forest Park Ave is that there’s a burgeoning density and more amenities but the actual street is just insane.
When my wife and I bike from FPSE to Fresh Thyme, we come up Sarah and bike through a literal parking lot (IKEA) to avoid biking on the street or on the sidewalk for as long as possible.
With three lanes going in each direction that, honestly, rarely even have too much traffic (not to say people don’t speed like nuts), this is such a great candidate for a road diet and protected bike lanes. With a university, plentiful amenities, and great density nearby, I hope it won’t take forever to see this stretch improved.
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One thing that’s becoming more apparent to me along this stretch of Forest Park Ave is that there’s a burgeoning density and more amenities but the actual street is just insane.
When my wife and I bike from FPSE to Fresh Thyme, we come up Sarah and bike through a literal parking lot (IKEA) to avoid biking on the street or on the sidewalk for as long as possible.
With three lanes going in each direction that, honestly, rarely even have too much traffic (not to say people don’t speed like nuts), this is such a great candidate for a road diet and protected bike lanes. With a university, plentiful amenities, and great density nearby, I hope it won’t take forever to see this stretch improved.
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Going to be hard with ikea set back a thousand feet and the Foundry walls. I agree with you, it is really a crazy stretch of road.
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The foundry at least narrowed their stretch of road from 3 down to 2 lanes. I like the idea of protected bike lanes though.
^ , ^^ & ^^^ I think you will see and most will agree with on this blog is that real changes will happen if City can embrace and move on a vision that makes FPP & Grand and at grade intersection and does away with the whole FPP/Market Street/Interchange boondoggle in conjunction with Brickline. The sooner the better as their is a truckload of competitive FED Infrastructure grants to piggyback on as well as the city's own Covid funds which I believe the 2nd payment/portion hasn't been appropriated by city either. .
I would put this stretch of FPP /Market Street returning as a blvd back to the city as well as getting rid of the raised section of freeway between downtown & Lacledes Landing/Near North riverfront as the two more transformative small scale infrastructure projects that are doable in near term, financial and political. Probably next on the list is some interchange redo's within the city.
I would put this stretch of FPP /Market Street returning as a blvd back to the city as well as getting rid of the raised section of freeway between downtown & Lacledes Landing/Near North riverfront as the two more transformative small scale infrastructure projects that are doable in near term, financial and political. Probably next on the list is some interchange redo's within the city.
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Adding-in that the Brickline Greenway coming into being will likely happen with many of these things under discussion. IIRC, plans are looking at adding protected, dedicated greenway bike lanes to FPP up maybe all the way to Kingshighway (at least to Sarah or Boyle) as well as seeing a whole new transportation plan between Grand and Compton along FPP & Market. It wouldn't surprise me to see a future announcement on the Grand/FPP intersection, the Compton/Market/FPP intersection, and the Greenway made all at once. Then again, I've got no firm idea when that would ever take place. Perhaps the other sites along FPP proximate to the Crescent Electric site that are ripe for development are the canary in the coal mine, including everything along FPP between Grand and Spring east of the Spring Street Lofts. Should plans come together for the Grand/FPP intersection, maybe these sites will get new owners/plans/proposals around the same time, maybe even ahead of them.
Aptitude makes 250,000 contribution to affordable housing - seeks no tax incentives
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... -top-story
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... -top-story
Nice! Maybe this is where the bribery rumor originated…
Happy to see its actually a community benefit agreement.
News like this continues to prove that holding back tax incentives in hot sub-markets is the right stance, even in the City. H/t to the Mayors office.
Happy to see its actually a community benefit agreement.
News like this continues to prove that holding back tax incentives in hot sub-markets is the right stance, even in the City. H/t to the Mayors office.