This was withdrawn. I guess a while ago.
1-2 mergers and disincorporations a decade is a pathetic pace.
1-2 mergers and disincorporations a decade is a pathetic pace.
Anything under 5000 should almost be forced to consolidate right off the bat.
Just watched on Fox 2: Police, EMS, Firefighters City & County Merge!
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Huh?JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Oct 14, 2021Just watched on Fox 2: Police, EMS, Firefighters City & County Merge!
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I found this:bprop wrote:Huh?JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Oct 14, 2021Just watched on Fox 2: Police, EMS, Firefighters City & County Merge!
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https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 9d098.html
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Right, but that's only dispatchers, and only in the City. It's good news, though.JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Oct 14, 2021I found this:bprop wrote:Huh?JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Oct 14, 2021Just watched on Fox 2: Police, EMS, Firefighters City & County Merge!
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Realtors' group says 89 separate building codes across St. Louis County are wasteful, inconsistent
Pretty obvious, but at least more and more groups are cognizant of the fact that Balkanization is dumb.
Pretty obvious, but at least more and more groups are cognizant of the fact that Balkanization is dumb.
I'd be up for merging the judicial circuits. I presume this goes nowhere without support of reps and senators in StL City and County.
StlToday - Missouri lawmaker wants to merge St. Louis prosecutor offices, return city police to state control
HB 1622 - https://house.mo.gov/Bill.aspx?bill=HB1 ... 022&code=R
StlToday - Missouri lawmaker wants to merge St. Louis prosecutor offices, return city police to state control
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 4fbff.htmlSchroer filed a separate bill to merge the 21st and 22nd judicial circuits; he said Monday his goal was to combine the prosecuting offices of Gardner and St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Wesley Bell. Both Gardner and Bell are Democrats.
HB 1622 - https://house.mo.gov/Bill.aspx?bill=HB1 ... 022&code=R
Same. I have no problem with a combined city and county prosecutors office. As long as the city gets re-entered into the county.
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Just checking in but did the Board of Freeholders process started in 2020 expire? Is that effort officially dead or indefinitely in limbo?
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Pittsburgh looking at merging with other municipalities
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Probably a bit easier done there than here considering Pittsburgh is already part of Allegheny County.
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After Better Together was pulled in 2019 and the Board of Freeholders process stalled thereafter, is anyone aware of any groups or organizations, public or private, advocating for a St. Louis City/County merger? If so, please feel free to share them here as I’d be interested in finding out more about them.
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Nothing going on, I’d assume there won’t be for another decade
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As the city continues to turn itself around and attract more wealthy residents I can see the narrative of "A merger would be the county bailing out the failing city" flipping or at least significantly shifting by then. County infrastructure continues to age, eventually it will get to the point where even healthy suburbs won't be able to keep up with it, not to mention the already broke muni's in North County.
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I am curious for your take as to why you feel it will take another decade (not disagreeing on my end.) Lack of current momentum? Allow enough time to pass after Better Together fell apart? Flat out lack of demand for change at this time?
Good points. I could see some saying eventually, what would be in it (a merger) for the city? That narrative change may take a decade or two to happen.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Feb 13, 2022As the city continues to turn itself around and attract more wealthy residents I can see the narrative of "A merger would be the county bailing out the failing city" flipping or at least significantly shifting by then. County infrastructure continues to age, eventually it will get to the point where even healthy suburbs won't be able to keep up with it, not to mention the already broke muni's in North County.
The history has been that every generation an effort is made.SouthCitySheks wrote: ↑Feb 13, 2022I am curious for your take as to why you feel it will take another decade (not disagreeing on my end.) Lack of current momentum? Allow enough time to pass after Better Together fell apart? Flat out lack of demand for change at this time?
I think this is a core argument of the Strong Towns crew, and the working theory is that cheap financing has and will continue to allow the burbs to deal with it. Take away the extremely cheap finance capital and the low-productivity (in terms of taxes generated per unit of) infrastructure becomes unsustainable for all but the wealthiest and politically cohesive (i.e. willing to pay the taxes) suburbs. The availability of cheap energy inputs (fossil fuels) is another necessity; if that dries up faster than electric vehicles can replace the ICE, then the burbs are in even more trouble.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Feb 13, 2022As the city continues to turn itself around and attract more wealthy residents I can see the narrative of "A merger would be the county bailing out the failing city" flipping or at least significantly shifting by then. County infrastructure continues to age, eventually it will get to the point where even healthy suburbs won't be able to keep up with it, not to mention the already broke muni's in North County.
Both arguments make intuitive sense to me but I lack the brainpower to do the actual analysis. Hopefully its right because my choice to live in the city is based in part on the belief that the suburbs are a historical anomaly and not sustainable in the medium term (assuming a minimum level of foresight and competence amongst political leaders...), and completely F'd in the long term.
Another common sense, why-didn't-they-think-of-this-before moment:
"St. Louis city, county library systems combining catalogs. The new partnership will allow library patrons to find materials from either system through a single search and have them delivered to the branch of their choice."
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... jijdsiFBy8
"St. Louis city, county library systems combining catalogs. The new partnership will allow library patrons to find materials from either system through a single search and have them delivered to the branch of their choice."
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... jijdsiFBy8
Stl BJ - St. Louis Mayor Tishaura Jones shuns Freeholders, says north-south transit expansion should be light rail
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ansit.htmlBefore she took office in April 2020, Jones had suggested a Board of Freeholders, which can alter government structures in the city and county, could even be used to extend the city's earnings tax to the county. After the collapse of Better Together's city-county government merger plan in 2019, the board had been viewed as a way to continue some type of merger effort, but it stalled when the Board of Alderman failed to confirm former Mayor Krewson's slate of board nominees.
Business Journal readers this year identified the region's government structure as one of the primary factors holding back growth.
"We haven't even addressed it," Jones said Monday of the Board of Freeholders. "That's really not on our agenda right now. There are more pressing issues than the Freeholders board right now."
In my opinion, some sort of City/County consolidation is the single most pressing issue in the region.
