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PostSep 22, 2021#351

This was an Art Deco with glass designed for NYC.


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PostSep 22, 2021#352

Eleven would be very nice and compliment the Chase.  Minneapolis has the second best skyline in the Midwest.  Having been born there I remember the Foshay building (which influenced Eleven's design) being the tallest building downtown.  Then the IDS tower came along.  Both disappear into todays skyline.  The riverfront area in the Mill District is a template for what could be done in Chouteau's Landing or the North Riverfront.  Minneapolis has everything DT.  Imagine taking Grand/Midtown and moving all those cultural institutions right into downtown along with all three major league sports venues.  Also development on both sides of the comparatively small Mississippi.  But those winters...    

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PostSep 22, 2021#353

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Eleven would be very nice and compliment the Chase. 
I agree. I've always thought something by Robert A.M. Stern Architects would go well on that corner. 

Something classic and solid. Basically nouveau Rosario Candela (to be a bit generous). 

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PostSep 22, 2021#354

I love those examples that Moorlander and Laife posted.  As much as I would love it...I think anyone expecting 500' or more here is setting themselves up for disappointment.

I really love this terracotta facade on this new super-tall in NYC:



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PostSep 22, 2021#355

wabash wrote:
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STLinCHI wrote:
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Eleven would be very nice and compliment the Chase. 
I agree. I've always thought something by Robert A.M. Stern Architects would go well on that corner. 

Something classic and solid. Basically nouveau Rosario Candela (to be a bit generous). 
Agreed with both statements above.  I think a building like Eleven would compliment both the Chase and 100. 

While I'd prefer something more cylindrical, a building like Eleven on the corner would really be transformative...and able to carry the weight of the corner.

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PostSep 22, 2021#356

Though I’ve not been there in years I absolutely love Minneapolis easily my favorite city in all the midwest anyways I wish whatever this development may become it’ll be a landmark. If I were to put a height anything from 350 possibly 410 would be wonderful. either way very exciting & hopefully the wait will be well worth. Chris if I can ask you a question what’s the percentage of this development going from concept to actually becoming reality/built just rough estimate/opinion?


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PostSep 22, 2021#357

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Though I’ve not been there in years I absolutely love Minneapolis easily my favorite city in all the midwest anyways I wish whatever this development may become it’ll be a landmark. If I were to put a height anything from 350 possibly 410 would be wonderful. either way very exciting & hopefully the wait will be well worth.   Chris if I can ask you a question what’s the percentage of this development going from concept to actually becoming reality/built just rough estimate/opinion?
You need to provide a temporal range. 5 years, 10, 15?

The longer the range, the better the prospect of something worthy of that corner getting built.  Right now, they are just trolling for investors, hoping to capitalize on whatever momentum is left in the Central Corridor and the larger construction cycle.  Unfortunately, they might have waited a bit too long.

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PostSep 22, 2021#358

wabash wrote:
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STLinCHI wrote:
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Eleven would be very nice and compliment the Chase. 
I agree. I've always thought something by Robert A.M. Stern Architects would go well on that corner. 

Something classic and solid. Basically nouveau Rosario Candela (to be a bit generous). 
Completely agree with the RAMSA route. I was just admiring their design for The Cortland this week. The overall form is meh, kinda '90s. But the details are incredible.

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PostSep 22, 2021#359

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Completely agree with the RAMSA route. I was just admiring their design for The Cortland this week. The overall form is meh, kinda '90s. But the details are incredible.
The only problem with that building is the color.  Well, it could use one more story on the penthouse, but if it were the same greyish-tan as much of the Central Park ring or the Park Plaza, it would be nearly perfect.  

However, that's not to say it would look good next to the actual Park Plaza.  Too many similarities.  It would likely come off as a cheap copy.

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PostSep 23, 2021#360

STLinCHI wrote:
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Eleven would be very nice and compliment the Chase.  Minneapolis has the second best skyline in the Midwest.  Having been born there I remember the Foshay building (which influenced Eleven's design) being the tallest building downtown.  Then the IDS tower came along.  Both disappear into todays skyline.  The riverfront area in the Mill District is a template for what could be done in Chouteau's Landing or the North Riverfront.  Minneapolis has everything DT.  Imagine taking Grand/Midtown and moving all those cultural institutions right into downtown along with all three major league sports venues.  Also development on both sides of the comparatively small Mississippi.  But those winters...    
Not to mention a massive university campus

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PostSep 23, 2021#361

aprice wrote:
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wabash wrote:
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STLinCHI wrote:
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Eleven would be very nice and compliment the Chase. 
I agree. I've always thought something by Robert A.M. Stern Architects would go well on that corner. 

Something classic and solid. Basically nouveau Rosario Candela (to be a bit generous). 
Completely agree with the RAMSA route. I was just admiring their design for The Cortland this week. The overall form is meh, kinda '90s. But the details are incredible.
That's a perfect example. And maybe closer in scale to what Chris' rumoring describes. I've always thought something along the lines of the park adjacent portion of 15 Central Park West would work well: 

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PostSep 23, 2021#362

I've always thought New York's "Jenga Tower" would be perfect at that corner:


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PostSep 23, 2021#363

That's pretty rockin'!

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PostSep 24, 2021#364

I'm gonna guess the Kadin Tower in Louisville, KY:
































(tongue firmly in cheek if it wasn't already obvious)

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PostSep 24, 2021#365

😜

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PostSep 24, 2021#366

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I've always thought New York's "Jenga Tower" would be perfect at that corner:

Ugh, I intensely dislike that building.  It's a blight on the Lower Manhattan skyline.  Lop off the top quarter, however, and it would be nearly perfect...and yes, I realize that that top quarter pretty much paid for the bottom three.

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PostSep 25, 2021#367

^ i would fully lop off the top half.

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PostSep 25, 2021#368

urban_dilettante wrote:^ i would fully lop off the top half.
The top half makes it interesting…the lower half by itself is boring.

Personally, I very much like the complete building.

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PostSep 25, 2021#369

^ i disagree. big, featureless, geometric spectacle is not that interesting to me. the bottom half at least has texture.

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PostSep 25, 2021#370

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Perhaps they'll go more Deco than the Park East and give us something (scaled down a bit) like the comcast tower.  slender spire, base extends back along lindell toward the shorter neighbor while slender profile minimizes impact...
 
This might be the first instance I've heard of somebody referring to that building by its official name. Most people just call it 30 Rock. The observation deck in that building gives you some of the most incredible views of the city. For $36.

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PostSep 25, 2021#371

rbb wrote:
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I'm gonna guess the Kadin Tower in Louisville, KY:


(tongue firmly in cheek if it wasn't already obvious)

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PostSep 26, 2021#372

The Eleven in Minneapolis would be a great fit fo the corner. 

https://elevenontheriver.com/building

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PostSep 28, 2021#373

Here are a few developments happening in Brooklyn (and one in Manhattan) that seem to be of similar scale as this site. Not saying any of these are “the one” by any means, but this stretch of Kingshighway has a distinct big city flair, and every one of the high rises lining the park would be right at home in New York.
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PostSep 28, 2021#374

stlgasm wrote:
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Here are a few developments happening in Brooklyn (and one in Manhattan) that seem to be of similar scale as this site.  Not saying any of these are “the one” by any means, but this stretch of Kingshighway has a distinct big city flair, and every one of the high rises lining the park would be right at home in New York.
Amazing to think that last one is replacing a McDonald's. What a city. 

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PostSep 28, 2021#375

something like the Eleven would be ideal. not really into any of those Brooklyn examples.

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