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Abstrakt is known for having subjecting workers to crappy hours and crappy pay (until you rise up a bit. then just even crappier hours) It's all ok though because they have a bar cart on Fridays and a "fun" company culture.

Also the majority of the company is a glorified call center, a huge chunk of their business is subcontracting cold calling to businesses from around the country. 

Looks like the city will help GRG purchase the garage:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 3b06a.html

I'm curious, does the casino contribute any money to the Landing in any way besides general fund taxes? CID or anything?

Considering all the promises they made (and broke) for developing their portion of the riverfront a flow of money for infrastructure improvements like the GRG project seems like the least they could do.

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑

Sep 23, 2021

Considering all the promises they made (and broke) for developing their portion of the riverfront a flow of money for infrastructure improvements like the GRG project seems like the least they could do.

Believe you have to give  a previous city administration, believe it was Mayor Slay, some credit as well for accepting a bad deal to get out of the original promise in first place.  Still can picture the mockup of future infill, development that sat in Terminal 2/Southwest baggage claim for a while.  Sure a picture of if is buried in the casino thread.

I think the city helping out on garage and getting rid of an old parking garage in the flood plain that flooded more times than not is a good thing at this point.   Unfortunately the Landing is now stuck with land banking of prime, infill spots above the flood plain and no one who is willing to lead the charge on removing the raised freeway separating the Landing from downtown/near northside, anyone, someone!! 

This paragraph from the previous story about that land deal gave me pause.

If purchased, the land would be added to a growing corridor of open park-like spaces along the Mississippi River from Laclede’s Landing into the north riverfront as part of a plan to remove barriers and vacant buildings, helping the city reconnect to the waterway to which it owes its existence.

I haven't been down in a few months. Is the bike trail still cut off by a closed floodwall and the Ashley Energy street closure? Is the trail passable by the new Jamo lot concert venue?

Perhaps they should start on that plan to remove barriers at some point with unblocking the bike trail that's been blocked for the vast majority of the time since the upgrade coinciding with the Arch grounds revamp.

"Barriers" is a great encapsulation of the landing. I think Lumiere just installed some new closable gates just at their north entrance, adding to all the other barriers. There are barriers at most intersections down there, not all closed all the time.

Who is in charge of this shitshow?

Is this how they plan to treat the Brickline Greenway?

Thanks for the photos eee123

Those pictures are probably are just another example of why the city doesn't need anymore investment in new parks or green space right now!  But more investments in making things better.  You could easily invest in functional barricades that prevent drag races, as GC once again found a few words to eloquent explain why, while making the paths useful for their intended or desired means such as bikes & pedestrians.   

When it comes to the floodwall(s) that to me  is a city admin/various departments being lazy by keeping them closed instead of only closing them during an imminent threat which undoubtly might be a couple times a year.   Lack of leadership holding people accountable.        

Isn’t that specifically the parameter for the outdoor concert venue?

Looks like Big Daddy’s isn’t coming back to the landing

Damn.  Even though it's not my scene they've been an anchor for the neighborhood for a very long time.

I've been holding out hope because the lights have been left on the entire time they have been close. Like all of the house lights and neons.

Still a huge bummer for the Landing. Only a couple businesses left from the old days. Too bad they couldn't hold on a bit longer.

Work has resumed on the Ward Burg Garden. Hopefully they have everything they need to get this thing done this time.

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑

Oct 21, 2021

Work has resumed on the Ward Burg Garden. Hopefully they have everything they need to get this thing done this time.

They were waiting for the metal "trellis" to be fabricated.


I was down there is past weekend and the Mexican restaurant was busy and Morgan Street had bunch of outdoor tables taken. the 3 upcoming apartment buildings will make the place so much lively and that restaurant/bars will follow. 

The Landing really just needs to regain a sense of positive momentum. Things have been moving in a positive direction (between the streetscape, garden, and Peper Lofts) but not nearly fast enough to get that vibe back. Big Daddy's closing is another blow.

I would hope we could get 3-4 businesses to open within a year of each other. That combined with the Advantes renovations wrapping up will get people chatting positively about the Landing again and give other potential retail/dining tenants the confidence to invest in the Landing.

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑

Oct 22, 2021

The Landing really just needs to regain a sense of positive momentum. Things have been moving in a positive direction (between the streetscape, garden, and Peper Lofts) but not nearly fast enough to get that vibe back. Big Daddy's closing is another blow.

I would hope we could get 3-4 businesses to open within a year of each other. That combined with the Advantes renovations wrapping up will get people chatting positively about the Landing again and give other potential retail/dining tenants the confidence to invest in the Landing.

The question is whether the Landing is viable anymore as an entertainment district, or if the development focus should be as a mixed-use residential neighborhood similar to Lafayette Square.

They should go with what works.  If they can fill apartments and office space, do that. It's going to be difficult at this point for the Landing to draw a critical mass of bars and restaurants with all the competing "districts" and "villages" in and around downtown...

I heard that one of the few remaining tenants in Raeder Place has closed their office (probably permanently) due to the stabbing right outside the building. There are now so few people on the Landing that stuff like this can happen. Really depressing how much harm crime does to our City (not to mention the couple this guy robbed or the guy he stabbed).

https://www.kmov.com/news/man-waiting-f ... bc8a0.html

Landshire and Abstrakt Marketing Group are still there (AMG is in a few buildings down there)

Brand Addition recently moved their US HQ to 707 2nd street.

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Oct 23, 2021

Landshire and Abstrakt Marketing Group are still there (AMG is in a few buildings down there)

Brand Addition recently moved their US HQ to 707 2nd street.

Landshire has been gone for years.  But Raeder did just land Continental Mapping.

As an active member of Laclede's Landing associations and committees, I'm not aware of any tenants closing up shop due to crime (that weren't already dark since COVID, at least). 

Paincourt is under construction and Greeley and Hoffman are kicking off any day now.  The neighborhood has invested in and continues to expand it's camera network, there are a ton of events being planned, and there's even a lot happening with retail/restaurant/parking behind the scenes right now.  I know people were bummed about Big Daddy's, but the future is bright.