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PostJul 10, 2020#201

I hope that the market can support a building with that many units. I bet One Hundred will be a good indicator. Even then, I imagine most other new buildings shouldn’t be quite as pricey so I’m not sure just how much we should read into One Hundred’s success either.


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PostAug 31, 2020#202

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PostJun 09, 2021#203

LuxLiving is acquiring the building and proposing a 7-story, 150 unit apartment building here. Desire to begin by the end of the year. 60 studios, 60 one bedrooms, 30 two bedrooms. No retail space, but small walkup office spaces being considered along Taylor + activated patio spaces due to the excessive setback on Taylor and Lindell.
https://www.cityscene-stl.com/post/7-st ... l-west-end

Some renderings and elevations (note: not finalized).














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PostJun 09, 2021#204

I kinda like it. I think lack of a corner retail spot is a miss.

I also kinda liked that proposed Optimist renovation though…

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PostJun 09, 2021#205

Looks like a replica of the Citizen Park building a block away. Still a nice addition to the neighborhood.

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PostJun 09, 2021#206

Looks great, solid infill; yes, it would be nice to have some ground floor retail there. I've driven by this site countless times and have been hoping for something new to come here, quite glad to see this today. As Chris pointed out in his article, the site currently doesn't contribute to City property taxes as it's owned by a non-profit, so this'll be a new revenue-generator for the City. Great article, Chris; cheers. 

Also: With this site being developed, it increases the potential in time for the site directly south of it, the one-story doctor's office with parking lot, to be redeveloped as well. 

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PostJun 09, 2021#207

I do hope the plaza they have out front won't just be a big slab of concrete. Needs outdoor furniture for it to be useful, some shade would help too. 

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PostJun 09, 2021#208

it's fine. it'll add density. i'm already tired of these giant U's with amenity decks, though. i wish they would face the amenity deck toward the alley rather than the street.

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PostJun 09, 2021#209

PeterXCV wrote:I do hope the plaza they have out front won't just be a big slab of concrete. Needs outdoor furniture for it to be useful, some shade would help too. 
The plan calls for an activated patio space where residents and the public can interact.

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PostJun 09, 2021#210

urban_dilettante wrote:
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it's fine. it'll add density. i'm already tired of these giant U's with amenity decks, though. i wish they would face the amenity deck toward the alley rather than the street.
You can't flaunt your wealth to the alley way I suppose

The rendering shows a pool on the amenity deck. In that case, wouldn't you want it facing south?

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PostJun 09, 2021#211

BellaVilla wrote:
urban_dilettante wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
it's fine. it'll add density. i'm already tired of these giant U's with amenity decks, though. i wish they would face the amenity deck toward the alley rather than the street.
You can't flaunt your wealth to the alley way I suppose

The rendering shows a pool on the amenity deck. In that case, wouldn't you want it facing south?
I think it may be because of the way the sun sets. Positioning the pool deck facing West allows for the afternoon and evening sun, in the summer, to shine on the deck. At least that’s what I think. Facing it any other direction would cast shadows on the deck.

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PostJun 09, 2021#212

chriss752 wrote:
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BellaVilla wrote:
urban_dilettante wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
it's fine. it'll add density. i'm already tired of these giant U's with amenity decks, though. i wish they would face the amenity deck toward the alley rather than the street.
You can't flaunt your wealth to the alley way I suppose

The rendering shows a pool on the amenity deck. In that case, wouldn't you want it facing south?
I think it may be because of the way the sun sets. Positioning the pool deck facing West allows for the afternoon and evening sun, in the summer, to shine on the deck. At least that’s what I think. Facing it any other direction would cast shadows on the deck.
Good call. I really like the windows on this one.

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PostJun 09, 2021#213

Looking at the Form Based Code District, implemented by the City on April 1st 2013, this project complies with key pieces of the rules under the "Boulevard Type 1" section. 
  • Minimum set back from the primary street (Lindell): 30ft (complies).
  • Building height minimum: 3 stories and 40ft (complies - 7 stories+penthouse).
  • Ground floor usage: Must be civic, institutional, office, residential, or secondary retail (complies - residential lobby space and small, walkup offices on Taylor).
  • Parking minimum: 1 space per unit (complies - 150 spaces in parking garage).

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PostJun 09, 2021#214

The FBC I believe has something in it against curb cuts. If the shake shack building was able to manage alley access for parking ,so should this.
Otherwise the design looks nice.

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PostJun 09, 2021#215

Color me skeptical about the "activated patio space." How many resident would choose to hang out there next to the street versus the private amenity deck? I also highly doubt the general public would would be allowed to hang out there on the patio furniture unless escorted by a resident. 

Even a 600sf  corner retail space could work wonders with a patio like that.

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PostJun 09, 2021#216

chriss752 wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
The plan calls for an activated patio space where residents and the public can interact.
Oh no. Nobody wants that...

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Jun 09, 2021
Color me skeptical about the "activated patio space." How many resident would choose to hang out there next to the street versus the private amenity deck? I also highly doubt the general public would would be allowed to hang out there on the patio furniture unless escorted by a resident. 
They'll need a tall sturdy fence to prevent too much "interaction".  A feeding station or daily keeper feeding/photo opportunity would be fun. 

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PostJun 09, 2021#218

chriss752 wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
BellaVilla wrote:
urban_dilettante wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
it's fine. it'll add density. i'm already tired of these giant U's with amenity decks, though. i wish they would face the amenity deck toward the alley rather than the street.
You can't flaunt your wealth to the alley way I suppose

The rendering shows a pool on the amenity deck. In that case, wouldn't you want it facing south?
I think it may be because of the way the sun sets. Positioning the pool deck facing West allows for the afternoon and evening sun, in the summer, to shine on the deck. At least that’s what I think. Facing it any other direction would cast shadows on the deck.
yeah, i'm sure it has something to do with sunlight. i just think it's ugly.

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PostJun 10, 2021#219

urbanitas wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
chriss752 wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
The plan calls for an activated patio space where residents and the public can interact.
Oh no. Nobody wants that...
The example given was similar to the Chelsea patio space off of the lobby. That helps serve the lobby bar/bistro thing there, which is open to residents and the public. A similar thing is expected here. 

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PostJun 10, 2021#220

Hopefully this one happens. Looks like a solid addition. I'm 100% okay with no retail at this location and having the 150 apartments simply support Euclid, Maryland Plaza and the small storefronts at Maryland & N Taylor and Newstead & West Pine. 

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PostJun 10, 2021#221

^It does really drive home what a loss the San Luis apartments were across the street. But yes, I think this will be okay. But how do you pry the parking lot away from the church?

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PostJun 10, 2021#222

symphonicpoet wrote:^It does really drive home what a loss the San Luis apartments were across the street. But yes, I think this will be okay. But how do you pry the parking lot away from the church?
I think you’d have to provide them with a garage for parking.


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PostJun 10, 2021#223

BellaVilla wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
urban_dilettante wrote:
Jun 09, 2021
it's fine. it'll add density. i'm already tired of these giant U's with amenity decks, though. i wish they would face the amenity deck toward the alley rather than the street.
You can't flaunt your wealth to the alley way I suppose

The rendering shows a pool on the amenity deck. In that case, wouldn't you want it facing south?
Lol.  Kinda my cringe factor when it comes to 1801 Washington.  If you're going to do that, put it up on the roof.  That said, I'm a shameful person.

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PostJun 10, 2021#224

^It's hard to balance a swimming pool on the top of a house of matchsticks, especially in a high seismic zone...

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PostJun 10, 2021#225

urbanitas wrote:^It's hard to balance a swimming pool on the top of a house of matchsticks, especially in a high seismic zone...
They don’t seem to be having trouble with that in Seattle.


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