AC Hotel Marriott on York Ave in CWE

urbanitas · PostApr 05, 2021#1012021-04-05T23:45+00:00

^Funny that they use the top of the city-owned parking garage as part of their staging area, rather than the top level of the underutilized (possibly closed?) Park Plaza garage.

I'm also curious as to what that northernmost ground floor space is going to be. It looks like the north side, next to the pedestrian alley/retail arcade, is open...

wabash · PostApr 06, 2021#1022021-04-06T03:40+00:00

urbanitas wrote: ↑
Apr 05, 2021
I'm also curious as to what that northernmost ground floor space is going to be. It looks like the north side, next to the pedestrian alley/retail arcade, is open...

Unfortunately, I don't think there's supposed to be anything facing the alley/gangway.

urbanitas · PostApr 06, 2021#1032021-04-06T05:06+00:00

chriss752 wrote: ↑
Apr 05, 2021
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Can't imagine any reason that side wouldn't be filled in by now if it was just going to be solid wall. Also, that looks like a pilaster or bearing ledge on the corner...and what else they going to use this space for, dirty linen collection? Storage?

It's such an awkward plan with those two driveways cutting through it. Hotel guests will have to go outside and walk cross a parking garage ramp to use the fitness center or conference rooms. Hotel employees will have to do the same to use the employee lockers, restrooms, and break room.

chriss752 · PostApr 06, 2021#1042021-04-06T05:10+00:00

^@urbanitas I don't see what you were trying to say with that picture

urbanitas · PostApr 06, 2021#1052021-04-06T05:23+00:00

chriss752 wrote: ↑
Apr 06, 2021
^@urbanitas I don't see what you were trying to say with that picture

Fixed it. I used your photo to zoom in on the corner.

chriss752 · PostApr 06, 2021#1062021-04-06T05:34+00:00

If I remember correctly, there will be a stairwell over there, so it may open out onto that walkway.

urbanitas · PostApr 06, 2021#1072021-04-06T05:40+00:00

chriss752 wrote: ↑
Apr 06, 2021
If I remember correctly, there will be a stairwell over there, so it may open out onto that walkway.

Yes, there is a stairwell in the northwest corner of the building, but they'll have about 3x the amount of space they need for a stairwell. Which is why I was wondering if they found an interesting use for it...plus, there are shop entrances along there.

imran · PostApr 06, 2021#1082021-04-06T17:59+00:00

Was voting next door and thought I would try to get a closer picture over the fence...

chriss752 · PostApr 06, 2021#1092021-04-06T19:29+00:00

Crane came down today.

symphonicpoet · PostApr 07, 2021#1102021-04-07T04:40+00:00

^^Nice shot, Imran. Really helps to drive home what a tight space that is. I love to see this kind of density in our fair town.

newstl2020 · PostApr 07, 2021#1112021-04-07T22:36+00:00

urbanitas wrote: ↑
Apr 05, 2021
underutilized (possibly closed?) Park Plaza garage.

Chase garage is open and utilized on a daily basis. They have done a number of refurbishments lately. Most likely underutilized at current absent larger events being held.

urbanitas · PostApr 08, 2021#1122021-04-08T01:00+00:00

newstl2020 wrote: ↑
Apr 07, 2021
urbanitas wrote: ↑
Apr 05, 2021
underutilized (possibly closed?) Park Plaza garage.
Chase garage is open and utilized on a daily basis. They have done a number of refurbishments lately. Most likely underutilized at current absent larger events being held.

I never see any cars on the top deck of that garage, so it must only fill up for large events at the ballroom.

PostApr 08, 2021#1132021-04-08T01:15+00:00

imran wrote: ↑
Apr 06, 2021
Was voting next door and thought I would try to get a closer picture over the fence...

Thanks. Still not definitive, but it appears that there's going to be a sizeable opening there of some kind.

wabash · PostJun 14, 2021#1142021-06-14T16:41+00:00

This must be from back in March:

chriss752 · PostJul 17, 2021#1152021-07-17T22:11+00:00

Today. Should be open by the fall.

bwcrow1s · PostJul 18, 2021#1162021-07-18T13:58+00:00

Love how they fit it in there. Really nice addition.

Miss Shell · PostJul 18, 2021#1172021-07-18T20:21+00:00

Is it connected to the Chase ballroom, or just really close to it?

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jshank83 · PostJul 19, 2021#1182021-07-19T00:14+00:00

I still shocks me everytime I see this and that they chose to wedge it in here. I’m happy they did, just doesn’t seem like an “STL” thing. More big city with less space.

BellaVilla · PostJul 19, 2021#1192021-07-19T00:16+00:00

It shouldn't. The CWE is fairly big city-ish

wabash · PostJul 19, 2021#1202021-07-19T00:51+00:00

Agreed with many that this is exceptional land use. Design-wise I like how the facade angles away from York. It was clear from the rendering that the grey brick portion would, but I didn't realize how much all of the facade would angle in, giving it an interesting, slightly askew look.

imran · PostJul 28, 2021#1212021-07-28T00:38+00:00

Warped panorama from this evening.

damon9863 · PostAug 07, 2021#1222021-08-07T15:31+00:00

Truly is a deep INFILL...and the AC hotel well into the block off Lindell. The only people who see this mid par hotel will be the patrons themselves. So, to the rest of us , it means little as we local STL -ans...may never see this establishment. Tho I look forward to the finish of Lux Lvings fast dashing construct of now 6 large residential complexes for the rich young desperate homeless on my street alone, having 3 new residential blocks..on Pershing Avenue alone!! THUS..Cancelling the regular bus route so many on my street depend On!! It is overboard and now needs to finish.

sc4mayor · PostAug 07, 2021#1232021-08-07T16:23+00:00

^ LOL, what?

EssTeeEll · PostAug 07, 2021#1242021-08-07T17:54+00:00

^ Damon's comin' in HOT (with whatever it is he's saying). This is a solid project anyway you slice it.

urbanitas · PostAug 13, 2021#1252021-08-13T01:46+00:00

Apparently someone at Marriott thinks that the new St. Louis AC Hotel's location could be described as either Central or the West End:

AC Hotel St. Louis Central/West End

Wherever it is, they say it will open in December.

AC Hotel Marriott on York Ave in CWE

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