Historic storefront without transoms look kinda awkward to me.
Still, would take glass over obscured treatments any day.
Still, would take glass over obscured treatments any day.
Good point. Maybe awnings will go back up after the construction work is done? Which would sort of mitigate that.imran wrote: ↑Mar 29, 2021Historic storefront without transoms look kinda awkward to me.NateM___ wrote: ↑Mar 28, 2021I grabbed a pic a couple of days ago. The first floor space looks modern with new windows and the awnings removed. I couldn’t tell 100%, but it appeared a portion of the space facing Delmar (to the East) may be subdivided.
Still, would take glass over obscured treatments any day.
Looking good. Has the building always had the accent lighting? If recent, nice addition.
Word is that the Tivoli building has been sold to The One Family Church (which has offices in the building).
^ Will the yearly Rocky Horror showing be replaced by a rotating Kirk Cameron movie?
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has the Tivoli Theater gone out of business? ugh... if not, expect some highly curated (read: censored) cinema.
It's a big TBD. No way of knowing if it stays a significant asset for the Loop or becomes primarily a gigantic venue for Sunday service. Sounds like the purchaser is excited and hopeful, and has a vague idea of what they might like to do, but isn't entirely sure themselves how it's going to play out.
The way it reads, it seems this is likely a net positive for the Chase, Hi-Pointe, and Alamo (should it ever open).
The way it reads, it seems this is likely a net positive for the Chase, Hi-Pointe, and Alamo (should it ever open).
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so does this mean yet another tax-free property? i'm guessing so.
Yep. We used to go to the Tivoli a lot, as it was the main venue for independent cinema in the city along with the Hi-Pointe. I really don't want to know what kind of movies they'll be showing at the Tivoli from now on but I doubt I will be interested.wabash wrote: ↑Apr 07, 2021The way it reads, it seems this is likely a net positive for the Chase, Hi-Pointe, and Alamo (should it ever open).
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I think that is the biggest loss. However, movie goers have changed behavior as a result of the pandemic. Premieres are happening on HBO now, and we get independent movies on streaming services as well. We do still have Hi Point and also Plaza Frontenac - if they survive the change.kipfilet wrote: ↑Apr 07, 2021Yep. We used to go to the Tivoli a lot, as it was the main venue for independent cinema in the city along with the Hi-Pointe. I really don't want to know what kind of movies they'll be showing at the Tivoli from now on but I doubt I will be interested.wabash wrote: ↑Apr 07, 2021The way it reads, it seems this is likely a net positive for the Chase, Hi-Pointe, and Alamo (should it ever open).
Going back to the Hi Pointe is the one STL thing I am looking forward to the most once I am fully vaccinated.
For what it's worth, lots of the comments on Nextdoor are saying that this church is extremely diverse, and very active in the community. Also, the leader used to be an actor, has appeared in film and TV, and is very much interested in cinema. So, they may not be showing the most risque stuff, but it sounds like they may be more open-minded than we expect.
There it is!urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Apr 07, 2021so does this mean yet another tax-free property? i'm guessing so.
Is it possible it's still on the tax rolls though since it's operating as a retail business still?
They could operate that business on a not-for-profit basis. From the article:
He also plans to offer much more affordable snacks.
"It's a house of worship. Offering films for us is part of what we want to do as an act of community service so it's not our goal or intention, we're not in the movie business per say. We're not trying to compete with AMC, that's not our interest," said Roam.
His main interest is continuing Sunday church services.
At least they're still planning to use it for the SLIFF. From today's Cinema St. Louis newsletter:
Sale of the Tivoli Theatre
Supporters of Cinema St. Louis have likely heard the news of the Tivoli Theatre's recent sale by Joe Edwards to One Family Church, which has held Sunday services in its main auditorium since 2011. The Tivoli has served as the St. Louis International Film Festival's unofficial HQ for more than two decades, and CSL hopes to extend its longtime relationship with the venue under its new owner.
One Family Church has clearly indicated that it intends to continue operating the theater as a movie house, with a reopening sometime in the fall, and CSL has already been in contact with the church to express its interest in using the venue for SLIFF and potentially other fests and events. CSL is optimistic that the Tivoli will again be part of SLIFF in 2021 and the future, and we'll provide updates once we've had formal discussions with One Family Church.
This transaction leaves me a little concerned for the financial health of the Joe Edwards empire. It just doesn't seem like the kind of asset Edwards would really ever want to sell. Hopefully it was just a good opportunity to streamline the portfolio at a time when continuing to operate the theater was complicated by the retrenchment of St. Louis Cinemas.
^ Would've been nice to sell his mini golf dreamland church instead..
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Yeah I don’t think Edwards is on solid footing financially.wabash wrote:This transaction leaves me a little concerned for the financial health of the Joe Edwards empire. It just doesn't seem like the kind of asset Edwards would really ever want to sell. Hopefully it was just a good opportunity to streamline the portfolio at a time when continuing to operate the theater was complicated by the retrenchment of St. Louis Cinemas.
Did we ever figure out if something new is going in there with the work being done on it.